Where are all the Firefly/Serenity fans, huh?

[geniph]

I know you guys are out there...

[Rowdyboy]

1. I think its among the best in television sci-fi....

Its an excellent cowboy/adventure/romance series with well-written characters, good actors and an interesting premise.

I can't speak of the movie because I haven't seen it yet.

[YankeyMCC]

2. Yo!

Right here...Firefly was a bright and all to brief light in the wasteland of TV :)

The movie was very good too IMHO...true to the spirit of the show and futhered the character development and fleshed out the universe a bit and fun to watch besides.

[BulletproofLandshark]

3. I thought both the series and movie were great.

The only thing I wish Whedon would've done is reveal at least a little of Book's back story.

[geniph]

5. I'm sure the plan was to gradually reveal ALL the backstories

but frigging FAUX TV didn't understand the show, and only let him have half a season! Evil bastids! They showed the episodes all out of order, kept changing the time it aired, didn't show the actual pilot until three months into it - the box set has the episodes in order, including three that never aired. The really tragic thing is that the very last episode is the best one of all!

The movie's good - thank goodness Whedon didn't give up on Firefly, so the BDM (Big Damn Movie) is all we've got - but it's not what the true Browncoats out there want, which is a weekly series. Preferably on HBO, so he can do it without the ridiculous interference of idiots like the FAUX executives. "The female characters are too strong, wah! We're afraid it'll scare off the fanboys, wah!"

It's no coincidence that groups of Browncoats tend to be comprised of bright, intelligent women, and men with the self-confidence not to be intimidated by them!

[salvorhardin]

7. There are many fan boys who *like* strong female characters

It's not 1953 fer cryin' out loud. Times have changed, you'd think Fox would get hip to that fact. Look how freaking successful Zena, Buffy, Dead Like Me, and Veronica Mars all were/are. That's just a random sampling off the top of my head both in-genre and not.

One of the things I liked best about Kaylee on Firefly was that she was a very feminine yet very strong character. Really the same could be said for Inara too.

[salvorhardin]

4. Serenity was awesome

Smart, funny, likable characters and intelligent story lines. What's not to love?

And I still don't see it as an apologia for the Confederacy no matter how much anyone wants to read into it.

[geniph]

6. Wow, do some people claim that?

that it's an apologia for the Confederacy? That's just stupid. It's empathic with the idea of a lost cause, certainly, but the rest of the analogy falls apart. The Independents weren't trying to save a doomed way of life, they were trying to prevent their assimilation into a bureaucratic and authoritarian society. They didn't segregate from the Alliance, the Alliance was trying to incorporate them without their consent.

The parallels are deliberate - the battle of Serenity Valley is based loosely on Gettysburg. Part of the reason for that framework is that Whedon discovered that Nathan Fillion (oh Captain, my Captain! be still my heart!) is a distant descendant of Confederate General Jubal Early, and it fostered some new ideas for him. But it is by no means meant to defend treason and secession and slavery!

[salvorhardin]

8. Maybe not that strongly

But I think if you peck around in this group you'll see some people make quite similar claims in response to an earlier post of mine praising Firefly.

[YankeyMCC]

9. Firefly on SciFi right now n/t

[politicat]

10. Hi!

Fan here.

So much of a fan that my next gun will be Zoey's : Winchester 94. .38 caliber.

[salvorhardin]

11. Silly liberal!

Don't you know you're supposed to be out stealing guns out of the arms of good, loyal Amerikans? ;-)

[politicat]

12. No way! They're too fun to shoot.

I buy 'em legally and stick within regs.

Handguns are another matter, but I'm all about rifles. The more, the better. (I have almost no use for handguns, because they're inaccurate and rely so much on wrist strength that they're really only good for killing people at close range, and slowly at that - you hafta wait for a person to bleed to death, and that can take a while. But rifles... )

Besides, a rifle is hard to hide in the waistband.

[kedrys]

13. Just arrived... :)

The s.o. watched it religiously in its first run, but I'm allergic to westerns, so I never paid much attention until I saw a few episodes on SciFi. Then we bought Serenity, and after seeing that, I downloaded the entire episode set from iTunes. I'm halfway through, and I have to say, I was wrong to ignore it. It's simply splendid.

[Touchdown]

14. Only seen 2 episodes so far.

The premiere, with the passengers turning into guests that just won't leave, and the Train Heist where they give back the medicine (and leave the old bad guy story up in the air).

I missed it when it was on, what 2002 or 2003?:shrug:

Universal HD is playing all the episodes once a week in Hi Def. So I'm catching up on them now. Looks interesting and has potential so far, but I don't care for the gun happy thug played by the My Bodyguard, Area 51 Colonel from ID4 guy... too much of a stereotype. I'll keep watching it, cuz Ebert liked Serenety, and I would like to see it, but I think I need to know the back story first.

Q: Is the pilot the same guy who talked like a pirate in Dodgeball? GARH!

Uni HD is also showing last season's BSG, but they won't show the new episodes. The picture quality of BSG is like night and day compared to Sci-Fi Channel. subdued colors and soft focus turn sharp, vibrant and grainy, like a docu film should look. I guess I'll have to watch this season again in HD. No Saturn station bug at the bottom of the screen either.

EDIT: Also, the producers of the show should know better. Any Sci-Fi fan knows that you can't disguise battle gear costumes from Starship Troopers with chrome paint on the helmets.:rofl:

[jayfish]

15. You Talk'en About Jayne Like That?

Don't worry, by the time your done with it you'll love him. The show definitely wouldn't be the same without him.

Jay

[Touchdown]

16. Adam Baldwin's name finally came to me.

So Jayne is the character's name? Does he get less cliche the further I watch, cause he's nauseatingly predictable on 2 episodes.

[TygrBright]

18. heyheyhey... Jayne is so NOT a stereotype!

No more so than any of the other chars. One of Whedon's great strengths is to take what LOOKS like stereotypes, and then slowly reveal the subtleties and diversities that make them fully rounded human beings.

Jayne only LOOKS and ACTS like a mindless, gun-toting thug. Inside, on some deeper level, he's an INTERESTING mindless gun-toting thug relentlessly denying his instinct to be a decent person.

I think he's my favorite character.

This week, anyway. Last week it was Wash. Although Zoe is... well. Wow. And the Captain.

And, hell, all of 'em. They're all great characters, well written and gorgeously acted.

Someday I hope the Faux execs who pissed on that series just DROWN in regret.

vindictively,
Bright

[Bridget Burke]

21. I agree. After all, Jayne is the Hero of Canton.

Is he still in his bunk?

[AnnieBW]

17. Browncoat Here!

I'm a Browncoat! Getting ready to go see Ron Glass (Shepherd Book) at Far Point in Baltimore.

[benEzra]

19. Serenity is probably my all-time favorite movie...

my wife loves it too.

[KitSileya]

20. I love Firefly.

My brother and friends clued me in on how good it was, and I was hooked from the first time I saw Jaynestown. I laughed so hard I started nose-bleeding, and I knew it was a winner.

Sometimes I wish I could teach those tv execs a very physical lesson about what is good tv and what is not. They have no idea.

[Deja Q]

22. Joss must've been a huge fan of "Blake's 7"...

Count me in as a huge fan of "Firefly". But especially in "Serenity", he's payin' homage big-time. If I were to ask him one question, I'd ask if he ever watched "Blake's 7" - and then thank him for doing so because "Firefly" is a true gem of a series that takes the best out of B7 (which of itself was Star Trek and The great Escape and The Dirty Dozen combined) and improve on it. You don't see that in media much these days; most remakes are shallow, insulting, and/or preachy.