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Ready4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 01:00 PM
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In "Blade Runner", I just noticed something
Been my favorite movie since I first saw it. And I can't believe I never noticed this before. (Or am I imagining it?)

In the opening sequence, the first Blade Runner, Holden, who gets shot by Leon? Is Harrison Ford doing his lines in a voice over?

A theme in the book the movie was based on is that Deckard isn't totally sure he isn't a replicant himself. It gets a quick mention in the movie, but maybe this was a stronger hint I've just missed all these years?
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Hong Kong Cavalier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 07:30 PM
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1. That's what I through originally, too.
I remember that I was totally confused the first time I saw it, because I thought Holden was Deckard. I think I have to re-watch it.

In the director's cut there's a dream Deckard has about a unicorn. At the end, when Deckard and Rachael are leaving his apartment, she knocks something over that was sitting on the floor of the elevator foyer:

A small oragami unicorn.

The final monologue of the original release has Deckard saying that "Gaff was there..." which obviously, he was.

Rumours abound that the final scene of Deckard and Rachael was supposed to end like this: Deckard looking at his radar screen and seeing Gaff in pursuit. He realizes that he's a replicant, too, and says "God help us all." <Cut to Black>



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Ready4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:50 PM
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2. It was on this afternoon, and I made some more connections
Weird. I've watched, but never analyzed it. Noticed a few things that just never struck me.

- During the final fight scene between Deckard and Roy Batty, Roy refers to Deckard by name. How'd he know Deckards name?

- One of Batty's lines is "Time to show what you're made of, Deckard." Referencing perhaps that Deckard has been "built?"

- When Batty is fighting off the symptoms of his emiment death (by driving a nail through his palm, I guess to create a pain stimulation) Deckard is also strapping together his broken fingers. Both of them, fixing their hands.

However, these new things are stilled against the things which have always convinced me that Deckard, in the movie, is human.

- In the end he fails to completely make the jump to the next building, while Batty makes it easily.

- And Batty starts off his final speach with "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe..."

Still think he's human. Just a little less sure now.

Dang, love that movie. :D
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Hong Kong Cavalier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:08 PM
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3. Must...re-watch...movie
I totally missed all of that.
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Ready4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:08 PM
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4. That you do, Buckaroo.
;)
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Hong Kong Cavalier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:33 PM
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5. Finally! SOMEBODY understands my username!!!
:thumbsup:
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Ready4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 11:06 PM
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6. Makes me wish others were in this thread.
Knowing secrets is no fun without others around who DON'T know.

Ah well.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 10:33 AM
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7. Ok, Spoilers If You're Interested
Edited on Sat Aug-13-05 10:40 AM by Beetwasher
Many people don't know that the Blade Runner story was continued in a couple of books (w/ permission from the Dick estate) called "The Edge of Human" and "Replicant Night" by K.W. Jeter. Deckard is accused of also being a replicant and hunted, however it turns out he's not. Also, Roy Batty's consciousness lives on as an AI in a suitcase that Deckard get's a hold of (I forgot how)...It's been a while since I've read them though...

Just did a search, apparently there's TWO more books now that I have yet to read "Eye and Talon" and "Beyond Orion"...(actually, it may only be one more book but it goes by two titles :shrug:

http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/series/bladerunner.htm
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Spock_is_Skeptical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 08:49 PM
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8. really! This has been one of my fave movies
and now I must check out these books. I did read "Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep?" which it was loosely based on, but I'd no idea the story was continued.

Thanks!! :D
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 10:19 PM
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10. I Read Them A While Ago, But I Did Enjoy Them
n/t
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 09:40 PM
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9. Do android's dream of unicorns?
I've read somewhere that a unicorn within a dream often serves as a symbol of enlightenment or epiphany.
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