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toddaa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 12:31 PM
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Fuck Christmas
Just weighing in on where *I* stand on the upcoming war against Christmas. I hate the holiday, and yes, as a matter of fact I don't really want the day off. I'd much rather save it for a nice spring day. Now, if they decided to change the greeting to "Merry Shopping Mall Day," I might go along with that change, as it is the day we celebrate the birth of wanton consumption and excessive capitalism run amok.

So in response to anyone who criticizes me for not joying in with the plastic Christian holiday, I say to you, "Fuck Christmas!"
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ozone_man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 01:50 PM
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1. That's the holiday spirit.
Edited on Sat Nov-12-05 01:51 PM by ozone_man
:)

Hey, we didn't have Thanksgiving yet, but I see the first signs of Christmas stuff in stores already.

Christmas has become terribly commercial. I treat it more as a celebration of Yule, but with the kids, the commercial part of it is hard to avoid. When they've gone to college, then the commercial part of it will fall by the wayside.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 12:19 AM
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2. Ramen!
I'm tired of all the hubub over it. Commercialization up the wazoo to the point that the stores have merchandise out in October and ads running the first day of November. Fundie wingnuts bitching constantly about how they are being persecuted because somebody said "Happy Holidays" instead of "Most Holy Day of the Birth of Christ Our Lord and Savior". Innocent kids being caught in the middle because all they want to do is have some fun and they can't anymore--celebrations are being banned in schools so as not to piss off the whackjobs who fight continuously over what they can be called, when they can be held and who gets to celebrate them. :eyes:

I agree, fuck Christmas.
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GOPFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 12:20 AM
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3. Fuck O'Reilly!
Even as an atheist I admit I enjoy seeing others enjoy the day. Yeah, a lot of people really go overboard on the gift buying, but most people that I know exchange gifts, have a nice dinner with family and friends and generally have a good time. Most acknowledge the religious reason for the holiday, few go overboard with it. Even my fundamentalist, Bible Belt parents used to be careful who they said Merry Christmas to. We were always taught to be considerate of other people's religion (except for Catholics, but that's another story).

But of course consideration of other's religious beliefs is no longer a Christian ethic. Evidently there is a new Jesus in town and he's an in-your-face bully. America is his chosen country, and O'Reilly is his chosen disciple.

The new xtian ethic:
"Don't celebrate Christmas, don't believe in Jesus? Well, fuck you, we're going to wish you Merry Christmas anyway because we're the majority and we can. That offends you? Then go whine to the ACLU. We've stacked the courts so we're not worried! Don't want a manger scene in your city's parks? Fuck you, we're the majority and we don't give a flying rat's ass about your feelings and beliefs because we're the fucking majority and we're going to heaven and you're going to burn in hell."

Isn't it amazing that so called xtians are doing their best to ruin what used to be a holiday of peace and good cheer? I swear they are such miserable people, they are hell-bent on making Christmas miserable for everyone! FUCK YOU O'REILLY!!
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gpandas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 12:28 PM
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8. why let your children...
decide this importan issue?
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lazarus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 04:28 AM
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4. Clausmas
That's the proper name for it.

Clausmas.
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 03:24 PM
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5. Great name!
We worship Santa Claus at our house. Not St. Nicholaus... Just the generic Coca-Cola ad, cookie eating, "Yes, Virginia, there is a" red suited gift-giving guy.

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StellaBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 10:39 PM
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6. A good book about Xmas excess and real thought
This is a good, non-academic, amusing-while-thought-provoking philosophy book I came across two Christmases ago when trapped in retail Christmas hell.

I just ordered it from amazon to get myself all psyched down for the 'holidays' this year.

The Xmas Files: The Philosophy Of Christmas by Stephen Law
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0753817950/qid=1132025824/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl14/104-8401086-7287904?v=glance&s=books&n=507846



"Book Description
"Picture the scene: Aunt Gertrude has just given you the most appalling Christmas tie, complete with snow-flecked kittens in bowler hats. Do you smile, nod, and confine it to the bottom drawer? Or do you tell the truth and spare yourself future ties from hell? Kant would say that we must, at all costs, tell the truth - whilst Mill would insist that we should think of the consequences. THE XMAS FILES is a fun frolic though the myths and rituals of Christmas today, asking such important questions as does Santa exist? What's wrong with Christmas kitsch? Is it all just a commercial racket? What was Augustine's attitude to 'peace on earth'? And what would David Hume have to say about the virgin birth?

"About the Author
"Stephen Law was a school dropout who became a postman in Cambridge, then took a degree in philosophy at Oxford, becoming a Junior Research Fellow at the Queen's College. He now teaches philosophy at Heythrop College, University of London."

I love this book.
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Sabriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 12:22 AM
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7. And *uck my city for its decorations
Why are my tax dollars going to pay for wreaths and red ribbons on every light post, along with a honkin' tree in the square?
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Strong Atheist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 09:14 AM
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9. I am not militant about this
whole christmas thing, I view it as a secular holiday to visit with family and exchange gifts giving thanks to them for still being alive. I like to give gifts anyway, so this is the once a year (other than birthdays) that it is official. I have no problem with christmas as a secular celebration day.
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goddess40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 09:46 AM
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10. I planned on using Happy Festivus in return
To assume that everyone celebrates Christmas is typical bully mentality - as an atheist we do "Christmas" so the thought that it's a religious holiday for all is a bit of a joke. When you ram a religious holiday down peoples throats for years they will adapt it to fit their lives. We celebrate family and friends at my house - all the fun and no having to sit in church and be bored to tears.

For those that still celebrate Christmas as a religious holiday, I really don't care and I don't see why they should care what the rest of us do with the day.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 01:50 PM
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11. The only Xmas song I can relate to at all is
"The St. Stephen's Day Murders" from a Chieftain's album, sung by Elvis Costello and a fantasy of all of us who have partaken of the massive stress combined with forced gaiety of a traditional family Xmas, especially with the inlaws.

I don't have to do it any more, and so I don't.

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Lowell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 11:23 AM
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12. Chirstmas sucks
I'm tired of having to endure all the commercial crap every year. And I absolutely hate the fucking music.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 10:50 AM
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13. I am just glad I don't have to work in retail
and hear ring-jing-a-rudolf-night-holy-night-fleas-on-the-dog-have-a-happy-holiday for eight friggin weeks while I work seven days a week until 10:30 at night. thank god for that
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onager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 11:49 AM
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14. Adeste Credulous!
:hi:

As ranted elsewhere, I thought I would escape all the Xmas hoopla, being in Egypt. Why hell no. The hotel lobby is cluttered with Santas, reindeer, tinsel and a giant tree with gifts underneath.

And that damned MUSIC plays 24/7 in the lobby and all the restaurants! Argh! They only have a limited selection, maybe 1 or 2 CDs, so I can count on hearing that f!cking Bing Crosby about 20 times in the course of one meal.

This is not only annoying for the obvious reasons, but it gives me Homesickness Pangs.

If that little sh!thead Tiny Tim came gimping up to me about now and chirped "Gawd bless us every one," I would yank the crutch out of his hands and beat him to death with it.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 09:16 AM
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15. Merry F#$%n' Christmas
Don't miss the Denis Leary' Merry F#$%n' Christmas Special.
The satire on Peanuts Xmas was hilarious. Linus talks a frustrated Charlie Brown into converting to Islam--and becoming a bomber.



The show:
http://www.comedycentral.com/shows/merry_f_in_christmas/index.jhtml

the schedule:
http://www.comedycentral.com/tv_schedule/index.jhtml?seriesId=19013
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 10:47 AM
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16. You haven't lived until you've hooked up with a babe in a manger
Seriously. A real babe.

A roll in the hay, some good tidings and it's on to New Year!

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