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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 02:43 PM
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Okay, Goristas
I keep hearing that Gore spoke out against the war in Iraq before any other Democrat did. Is this true? And, when did it happen?
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 05:43 AM
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1. I think it is true....well kind of
If you are speaking about statements against the war by political figures, then yes I think that is fairly accurate.
Here is a speech he made in the fall of 2002.
http://www.commonwealthclub.org/archive/02/02-09gore-speech.html
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 04:28 PM
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2. Great!
Edited on Wed Nov-24-04 04:32 PM by Mabus
About a year ago I kept hearing that Dean was the first but the earliest reference I could find that Dean was anti-war was in Feb. 2003.

I'm really curious if anyone knows who said what when. Know what I mean?


on edit: oh man, Gore nailed it! He even talked about the politicals of it during the 2002 election cycle. That's one thing I've respected about Gore is that he was right both times on Iraq. He voted "yes" the first time and voiced his opposition the second.

From the speech (from your link):

I don't think we should allow anything to diminish our focus on the necessity for avenging the 3,000 Americans who were murdered and dismantling the network of terrorists that we know were responsible for it. The fact that we don't know where they are should not cause us to focus instead on some other enemy whose location may be easier to identify. We have other enemies, but we should focus first and foremost as our top priority on winning the war against terrorism.

Nevertheless, President Bush is telling us that America's most urgent requirement of the moment - right now - is not to redouble our efforts against Al Qaeda, not to stabilize the nation of Afghanistan after driving its host government from power, even as Al Qaeda members slip back across the border to set up in Afghanistan again; rather, he is telling us that our most urgent task right now is to shift our focus and concentrate on immediately launching a new war against Saddam Hussein. And the president is proclaiming a new, uniquely American right to preemptively attack whomsoever he may deem represents a potential future threat.

Moreover, President Bush is demanding in this high political season that Congress speedily affirm that he has the necessary authority to proceed immediately against Iraq and, for that matter, under the language of his resolution, against any other nation in the region, regardless of subsequent developments or emerging circumstances. Now, the timing of this sudden burst of urgency to immediately take up this new cause as America's new top priority, displacing our former top priority, the war against Osama Bin Laden, was explained innocently by the White House chief of staff in his now well-known statement that "From a marketing point of view, you don't introduce new products in August."
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 05:53 PM
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3. The reason you didn't find any earlier Dean references
was because before Feb. 03 he was not in the national purview.

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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 08:22 PM
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4. He was the one that broke the damm
Edited on Sun Nov-28-04 08:22 PM by Radical Activist
Other Democrats had spoken out before Gore, like Dennis Kucinich. Gore was the first or one of the first major national Democratic leaders to speak out against it. After that a lot of other Democrats saw that it was politically feasible and possible to speak out against it. That's when Dean and some others took Gore's lead and started speaking out.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 07:01 AM
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6. Dennis Kucinich was my candidate, and this was one of the reasons
He spoke out with so much courage and conviction, even though it wasn't easy, since he was in Congress, and had a vote, unlike Governor Dean, who also speaks well on the subject. But when I heard Al Gore's MoveOn speech, it just blew me away, since he was just so well-spoken, relaxed and confident, and I just wasn't expecting it. I voted for him in 2000, but he's really caught fire, and may well have another chance.:shrug:
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 06:50 AM
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5. This is what I have, Al Gore, September 23, 2002
IRAQ AND THE WAR ON TERRORISM
http://www.commonwealthclub.org/archive/02/02-09gore-speech.html

Bill Clinton, as much as I always liked him, seemed to agree with Bush*'s actions there while on his book tour and before he got sick, and before all hell really and finally broke loose in Iraq!:grr:

Read what Gore had to say on this more than two years ago...
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