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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 11:02 PM
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AP NewsBreak: Pentagon to Alert 8 National Guard Units for Iraq, Afghanistan Duty
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/N/NATIONAL_GUARD_IRAQ?SITE=KFWB&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULTAP NewsBreak: Pentagon to Alert 8 National Guard Units for Iraq, Afghanistan Duty>

Oct 17, 11:11 PM EDT

By LOLITA C. BALDOR
Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) --

The Pentagon is preparing to alert eight National Guard units that they should be ready to go to Iraq or Afghanistan beginning late next summer, The Associated Press learned Wednesday.

The U.S. military is reaching out to more Guard units in an effort to maintain needed troop levels, ease some of the strain on the active duty Army and provide security for ports, convoys and other installations.

According to defense officials, seven of the units would deploy to Iraq and one to Afghanistan. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because the orders had not yet been signed and the announcement is not expected until the end of this week.

Two of the units will be full combat brigades heading to Iraq - between next summer and into 2009, to serve as part of the rotation with active duty troops. There are currently 20 combat brigades in Iraq, but under plans mapped out by President Bush and his top commanders, that number will gradually drop to 15 next year, as the U.S. reduces its troop presence there.

Those two Guard brigades would include about 3,500 soldiers each - generally the size of a combat brigade. But the other five going to Iraq will be much smaller brigades that are tailored for specialized support operations, mostly security and detainee operations. Their sizes vary, but some would be about 1,000 troops.

The announcement sometime this week will give the Guard units advanced notice of the planned deployment schedule so that they can begin training and preparing. Also, because it looks far into the future, there is always the possibility that plans could change, based on conditions in Iraq.

There are now 171,000 U.S. troops in Iraq, largely because several units are overlapping as some move in and others move out of the country. Once those transitions are complete and the drawdown begins, the level of troops in Iraq could drop to as low as 135,000.

Some of the smaller Guard units would be stationed in Kuwait, where they would provide security for the port there, as well as convoys that move in and out of Iraq.

All together, the Guard announcement would involve about 20,000 soldiers.

Specific brigades were not identified, but they will include units from

North Carolina, Oklahoma, Illinois and Hawaii,

according to officials. Some of those being alerted this week have done tours in the war zone already, and others would be going for the first time.

A key element of the plan calls for sending the Guard brigades in fully intact units, complete with their own commanders and headquarters, rather than breaking them up and spreading them around, as has been done in Iraq in previous Guard deployments. Lt. Gen. H. Steven Blum, chief of the National Guard, has made that a priority, saying his brigades are more effective working as teams.

At the same time, the plan will also allow the citizen soldiers to serve just eight or nine months on the battlefield, as part of a 12-month deployment. Defense Secretary Robert Gates has committed to having Guard soldiers serve in war zones for no more than one year, including the final training time before they leave.

Previously, Guard soldiers would spend up to six months training before going overseas for 12 months - forcing them to be away from home for as long as 18 months. More recently, brigades in Iraq - including some Guard units - saw their deployments extended to up to 15 months on the battlefield.

The new plan would have them spend several months at home training, then the remainder of the year at the battlefront.

more.....


:banghead: :grr: :nuke:

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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 11:13 PM
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1. late next summer = surge + 15 months
amazing what math can do

It will never end with Bush in charge. Or Hillary, or Obama.
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CTuttle Donating Member (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 11:27 PM
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2. This will be the second tour for Hawaii's lone NG Brigade...
God help us if another Hurricane hits Hawaii during their tour...
I hate this f*cking war... I served ten years with most of them...!!! :grr:
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 11:40 PM
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4. I was in K-Bay 91-95
:hi:
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CTuttle Donating Member (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 11:59 PM
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5. Ya must be Gyrine...
I'm a twenty-year Army/ARNG veteran myself... See, all service-members aren't Repugs...!!! :patriot:
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 02:42 AM
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8. I hope my son isn't going back...
:grr:

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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 11:30 PM
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3. A direct result of the surge
They have run out of troops for the rotation.
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Jackeen Donating Member (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:29 AM
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6. This is nothing to do with the surge.
Edited on Thu Oct-18-07 12:30 AM by Jackeen
I got my official 'phone call today about this. We've known this was coming since long before the surge started, the only question has been 'when?' Not least, this is the second 'wave' of NG brigades to go on their second deployment, the Army's run out of troops without any need for the surge.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 02:41 AM
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7. How'd you get a call when they haven't released the info yet?
:shrug:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071017/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/national_guard_iraq;_ylt=A0WTUehCiBZHPKsAJgis0NUE"> Pentagon to alert 8 Guard units for duty

"The announcement sometime this week will give the Guard
units advanced notice of the planned deployment schedule


so that they can begin training and preparing. Also, because it looks far into the future,
there is always the possibility that plans could change, based on conditions in Iraq."
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Jackeen Donating Member (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 09:23 AM
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10. Common courtesy on the part of the Army.
Don't you think soldiers would prefer to hear about deployment announcements through their chain of command rather than reading about it in a newspaper? Or worse, having a relative read about it in a newspaper and then ask the troop?

The decision was made, soldiers are being notified, and the official press announcement listing the units will come out in a day or two.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 10:38 AM
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11. My son hasn't heard anything , as far as I know, but he hasn't
called me back yet either....

Keeping my fingers crossed....

:grr:
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 04:45 AM
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9. Thanks for posting.
We *really* need to end this occupation.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 10:39 AM
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12. Your not kidding we need to end this!!
Gheesh!! :banghead:

And your welcome, but thank you too, for all the posts you've made!!

You've been busy!!! :)

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