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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 03:21 PM
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"For Colored Girls" New York Times Review
Tyler Perry has been led out to critical slaughter so many times, it might seem a wonder that he continues to make movies. Except that Mr. Perry addresses his movies to black audiences and, until recently, has shown relatively little interest in crossing over. His enormous commercial success with a mainly black audience and the often ferociously hostile reviews from mostly white critics might seem symptomatic of an insurmountable racial divide. Black people love him and white people don’t get him, and that sort of thing, which might be somewhat true but ignores that another important dividing line runs along taste and not color.

There are other lines separating audiences, and whether you like Mr. Perry’s work may depend on your color or sex or love of boiling melodrama, ribald comedy, abrupt tonal shifts, blunt social messages, unforced talk about God and flourishes of camp, sometimes whipped together in one scene. The orgiastic wedding that brings “Madea’s Family Reunion” to its dizzying finish features a muscleman blowing like Gabriel under a ceiling from which women dressed as angels hang like ornaments, some playing instruments — including a white piano — a display of outrageous imagination that is either a nod to Busby Berkeley or the product of a lunatic vision such as (some) fever dreams are made of.

Mr. Perry is, it goes without saying, a maximalist, informed by theatrical traditions (from the church and his stage work on the chitlin’ circuit) and the golden age of Hollywood. He likes big moments, glamorous stars, swells of music and tears that fall like rain — and sometimes hail. For most of his career he has not been a good filmmaker, in terms of making beautiful pictures and putting those images into kinetic motion, though the same can be said of other name directors. He isn’t a visual stylist, certainly. His strengths lay elsewhere, including his work with performers, which over the course of his prolific career has only improved, as evidenced by his latest, “For Colored Girls,” a thunderous storm of a movie.

The film is based on Ntozake Shange’s electric play, the self-described choreopoem “For Colored Girls Who Have Considered Suicide/When the Rainbow Is Enuf.” Inspired by “our mothers,” including Isis, Zora Neale Hurston, Anna May Wong and Calamity Jane, the work, first staged in 1974 as a work in progress and performed ever since, including on Broadway. It is a classic of its unapologetic feminist era, consisting of some 20 poems accompanied by choreographed movement and music, including a blast of Martha and the Vandellas. The characters are seven chromatically differentiated women (brown, yellow, purple, red, green, blue and orange) from points across the country, who recite “dark phrases of womanhood” (the first words in the play) involving infanticide, incest and other horrors. (Mr. Perry adds two more women.)

That might sound unbearable, but done right it’s thrilling — specific in its pain, universal in its reach — and Mr. Perry works very hard and gets it mostly right. He succeeds even when art seems to have taken a back seat to commercial choices, as in the casting of Janet Jackson, who plays Jo, a magazine editor cut along the same cool lines of Meryl Streep in “The Devil Wears Prada.” Ms. Jackson is, to put it gently, an actress of limited expression. But her quiet presence has force, partly because of her eerie resemblance to her brother Michael, though also because her character’s brittle hauteur, self-involved privilege and artificiality has — like the martyrs in ermine played by the likes of Lana Turner — its own weird truth.

http://movies.nytimes.com/2010/11/05/movies/05for.html
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 07:41 PM
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1. I'm so happy to see the number of movies coming out about black women I don't know what to do
From happy fairy tales like "The Princess and the Frog" to really dark, deep and depressing "Precious" (which I still have not seen and probably won't ever be able to) I'm just thrilled to see all of these movies being made about sisters that appear to actually be reaching the mainstream instead of staying on the sidelines.

I doubt seriously if "Colored Girls" will make its way Down Under, but I'm glad to see Tyler Perry breaking out of his shell and taking some risks. They seem to be paying off for him, too.
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 08:07 PM
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2. Interesting, though this part bothers me:
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Black people love him and white people don’t get him, and that sort of thing, which might be somewhat true but ignores that another important dividing line runs along taste and not color.

I wish critics and other media pundits, would get their broad-brushing in check. As evidenced by a thread in this forum, many discussions on other forums (of black women)--not everyone who shares the ethnic background of Mr. Perry "loves him" or his work.

As for the rest of the review, I'm interested to see how the film plays out. But no, still have no plans to see it. lol.
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 01:16 PM
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3. That comment bothered me, too.
Neither my wife or myself can stand Tyler Perry films, it isn't a matter of ethnicity.

I think Perry is interesting as entertainment success story, and I wish him well. Just don't ask me to watch his movies.
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 07:24 PM
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4. Exactly....!
I am sincerely happy that a man of color has achieved success in the film industry. In addition, I'm pleased that he uses that success to give back. In Perry's case, he sent the inner city children mistreated in that country club pool incident, to Walt Disney World. That was just the coolest thing. :) :thumsbup:

What bothers me, is the fact that his success has been built on entertainment industry stereotypes that many have fought long and hard to dispel, disprove and ultimately replace with more varied images--positive, complex and ultimately human. Don't get me started on the sex and gender stereotypes he utilizes and ultimately reinforces with his work; that also serve to damage the cultures his work intends to represent and entertain.

I appreciate you weighing in, kwassa--it's really good to see you! :hi::hug:
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 07:08 PM
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5. Thus far, from folks that I know that saw this movie,
they only had positive things to say about it.

I'll try and see it next weekend.
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-10 09:02 PM
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6. "For black men who have considered homicide after watching another Tyler Perry movie
here is another point of view:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/07/AR2010110704428.html

For black men who have considered homicide after watching another Tyler Perry movie
By Courtland Milloy
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, November 8, 2010; 5:30 PM

Can anyone name a movie that came out recently starring a black man who wasn't a sociopath? Someone who had a terrific screen presence, like a young Paul Robeson? And he portrayed a character who was complex and fully drawn? Did he respect black women, too?

Anybody see that movie? I didn't. But surely it's out there somewhere, right? An alternative to those Tyler Perry films portraying black men as Satan's gift to black women? But where is it?

Maybe I didn't hear about it because of all the buzz over Perry's "For Colored Girls," which opened Friday and is based on Ntozake Shange's 1975 stage play, "For Colored Girls Who Have Considered Suicide When the Rainbow is Enuf."

Or maybe I didn't hear about it because I was retching too loudly after seeing "For Colored Girls" - and reading so many inexplicably glowing reviews.
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-10 11:27 PM
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7. Lol
Old Mr. Courtland obviously HATES Tyler Perry. The review you linked to is almost as bad as his other reviews of Perry's films: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/24/AR2009022403303.html :rofl:

He seems to seriously hate "Colored Girls" and what he feels are unfair portrayals of black men. And not even just the movie itself -- the actors, the producers, the director too. Anyone who had ANYTHING to do with this movie and even the folks who just happened to go see it seem to be on his isht list.

I'm not saying that I disagree with Mr. Courtland on either review of Perry's films. But I am starting to wonder if there's been a black movie this decade that he actually HAS liked. Check out what he said about "Precious." http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/17/AR2009111703465.html
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 03:39 AM
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8. that's funny!
...thanks for the link, kwassa. i'll read the full review and share my thoughts later. :hi:
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