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hendo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 12:17 PM
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Poll question: Best video game decade?
Well, which decade do you think was the best?
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Evoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 04:54 PM
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1. Gaming advances really fast....the poll should be in about 5 or 6 year increments.
Edited on Mon Apr-06-09 04:54 PM by Evoman
Big difference between early 90's (nintendo, with Sega Genesis, and Super Nes just coming out) and late 90's (PS1, with PS2 just around the corner).
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hendo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 07:54 PM
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2. actually, the NES came out in 1985, I wasn't that old yet when I got one for Christmas. NT
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Evoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 09:16 AM
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5. Yeah, I know...I'm just saying it was still going strong in the early 90s.
Until the Genesis and Super Nes came out.
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 01:57 AM
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3. This reminds me of a thread I made in the Penny Arcade forums Once Upon a Time
I was doing something similar to the "TedTalk Tuesday" threads I do here in PA's "Games and Technology" forum- I think it was called "Attack of the..." over there.

Anyway.

Several years back, I did one of those called "Attack of the Golden Age" (don't bother doing a search; 'of', 'the', and 'age' are below the four-letter limit in searches). It was about pretty much what your poll advances- that there was, in fact, a "Golden Age" of gaming. At the time, I suggested we were currently in it.

It was.... enlightening.

I came to agree with the overall point of the majority of responders: the nature of the medium in which this wonderful art is produced is inherently dependent upon technological development. What we see and do in computer (or console) games depends wholly on the hardware we have available to us at any given time.

Here's an example. Until today, games have been played, for the most part, on slightly curved or flat screens that can only display a series of two-dimensional frames. We have virtually mastered the ability to display color on those screens- modern computer monitors, for example, already have the capability to display more colors than our eyes can see- and all we can do now is refine that ad infinitum; the images, on the other hand, remain two-dimensional.

Samsung has recently debuted a new technology in their newest sets that has a built-in ability to display stereoscopic images. A pair of polarized glasses enables a reasonably accurate three-dimensional display, given the material was filmed in that manner in the first place.

On the gaming side of the equation, Nvidia has a product that does the same thing for games. My understanding of their system is that it does something to existing games that allows "true" 3D depth to be added. I took a look at the list of supported games and was pretty impressed with what they've accomplished.

With the advent of OLEDs, the game- pun intended- changes. OLEDs allow for displays like the one at the first Nvidia link above, but can be bent and curved, which enables a display covering one's entire field of vision (or a wall, or as a lightstrip near the ceiling). While still very expensive and thus fairly rare, OLEDs, like any new and useful technology, are expected to rapidly drop in price as newer and more efficient manufacturing methods are developed. OLEDs will- not may, but IMO will- replace the LEDs in use today: they consume far less power, are thinner and lighter, do not require a backlight (OLEDs emit their own light, and how cool is that), and are in general just a better idea.

A next step after that would be true virtual reality or holographic technology. Until now and into the near future, these have been staples of science fiction. It is very hard for us today to imagine clearing off the coffee table so we can project a game of Command and Conquer 8 onto it in three dimensions, such that all objects look like solid, toy models. However, if these ideas seem fanciful to anyone reading, please try to remember what it was like when you first played Super Mario Brothers on your brand-new NES. Could you possibly have imagined how far we would come in the following ten years? The next fifteen? Two decades hence? Nearly a quarter-century?

The Video Game Golden Age is, therefore, in my opinion an ongoing and evolving thing. It depends directly on the hardware available and the abilities and imaginations of game developers, artists, coders, and so on to take advantage of the capabilities of the hardware. I will go out on a limb here and say that storytelling is one crucial aspect of gaming that is and has until now often been severely lacking (although there are very old games that are in fact quite well-written). However, I think even that is subject to the lack of immersion we feel when playing games in the way most people do today: on a flat, two-dimensional screen that pretends to show you "3D".

The next major advance, in my opinion, is going to be related to how the graphics themselves are presented, and I think that advance is going to involve moving from faked 3D-on-a-2D-screen to faked-3D-using-a-3D-display. This will be a milestone, a watershed moment preceding true holography, and we will in future times speak of it in the same reverential, hushed tones we use when describing the advent of the first 3D accelerator, or multicore CPUs, or SLI, or.......

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hendo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 10:49 AM
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7. Ah, the PA forums
I used to post there. Haven't in about 8-9 years though.
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 09:37 PM
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10. You need to go there and check out Helloween's "Let's Play" of Dead Space in G&T.
Comedy gold, that.

I mostly post in PA's Games & Technology now, and Moe's Stupid Technology Tavern on occasion. The G&T forum has one very interesting thread with a guy making a platformer from scratch, using free tools.

Oh, and it was there I heard today about a card game called Alteil. It's similar to Magic: the Gathering, but free and online in flash, and kind of fun in its way. One of their developers posts in the PA thread, in fact.
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Systematic Chaos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 07:17 AM
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4. I cast my vote for the specific time period of 1979 - 1984.
95% of the best arcade games ever made came out during this time period, from Space Invaders to Pac Man to Robotron and countless others. Despite having much better graphics, few of the games which came out after that were as original or as addictive, and they also tended to be far more expensive and shorter from start to finish.
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Evoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 09:24 AM
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6. I agree with Occulus. I mean, I like older games just fine, but
I find it hard to say that I find games on the old nes or supernes as fun as the newest games. When I play them again, I get frustrated by the lack of options, story, or decent graphics.

I mean, compare the work of arts that are Bioshock or Crysis or Fallout 3 or Age of Empires or Civilizations 4 or Grand Theft Auto 4 to any of the bleep bleep games for the Atari or nes.

No comparison, unless nostalgia is clouding your mind.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 11:47 AM
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8. Tough question.
Edited on Tue Apr-07-09 11:48 AM by Forkboy
I'm definitely and old school gamer going back to the Atari ST and Commodore and that stuff, and back then the games were great. Depth of design and story-wise no decade comes close to the 80's. Games these days are often very shallow and lean towards good looks over good gameplay. But there's still been some amazing games over the last 2 decades that are simply incredible, including System Shock 2, quite possibly the coolest game ever.

Not a big console gamer, as apparently the concept of designing strategy games for them eludes everyone. For sports or fighting games a console can't be beat. For RPG's and strategy games I'll take a PC any day. This makes it a little tougher for me to judge because most of the huge games now are strictly console products (never even played Halo, for instance).

I'm going to go with the 80's. There was great games on all systems, and the SNES alone put out a ton of amazing RPG's in that period. The SNES had something for everyone, something today's consoles majorly lack.
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hendo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 12:14 PM
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9. Yeah, can't really rely on any one console for a wide variety of games anymore
If only the Final Fantasy games came out for PC, the world would be grand.
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