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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 04:13 PM
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Adventures With Detox Foot Pads At CVS
Edited on Mon May-12-08 04:18 PM by jberryhill
My Question to CVS "Ask The Pharmacist"



Type your question (please include as much detail as possible):

I am interested in using this product for fatigue and to improve circulation. The product and description on your website state:

http://www.cvs.com/CVSApp/cvs/gateway/detail?prodid=367101

"Description Helps remove toxins. Improves circulation. Combats fatigue. Stimulates reflexology points.* Enhances circulation.* Strong absorption capabilities.* Bamboo Vinegar: Distilled over a 2 year process, and of the highest quality and purity, our Bamboo Vinegar is 30 times more effective than ordinary vinegar. It contains rich minerals with strong absorption capabilities that accelerate the elimination process of impurities. Tourmaline exerts a cleansing and liberating energy upon our entire nervous system with a clearing and stabilizing effect. Tourmaline is one of the few minerals in nature that emits far infrared energy. This stimulates and enhances the cells' functions and promotes healing."

I have three questions:

1. Does this product relieve fatigue?

2. Does this product improve circulation?

3. Does tourmaline emit far-infrared rays? If so, what will the far-infrared rays emitted by tourmaline do for my fatigue and circulation?



Dear CVS Customer,

Thank you for contacting CVS.com.

Herbal and alternative medicines, such as Body Pure + Detox Pads Foot Pads, are not regulated by the same standards met by prescription medications. Supplement makers do not need to prove the safety or effectiveness of their products before selling them.

Unlike prescription drugs, supplements do not need approval from the Food and Drug Administration (FDA). Therefore many drug interactions may get overlooked or unreported, so often prescription interactions are unknown.

Your physician may know of a safer, clinically studied, FDA-approved alternative to Body Pure + Detox Pads Foot Pads for your health concern. It would be best to discuss this with your physician, since he or she knows you and your health history best. Please be aware that although anyone can have symptoms of fatigue from time to time, that in combination with circulation problems that have been diagnosed by a physician should only be treated by a physician.

I hope this meets your needs. Please feel free to contact us if you need further assistance or if you have any other questions.

Sincerely,

Donna S., RPh




Okay, I think I need further assistance with my Body Pure Detox Foot Pads, gang. Help me get the assistance I need.

I think I need to know how foot pads are a "supplement". I bought them, and now the pharmacist seems to be telling me to eat them.

I want to know how I can tell a "supplement" from a "device" from a "drug" when I walk into a CVS, or should I just not believe anything?

Give me a snappy comeback here.

On edit:

Okay, I asked for more help:

"Thank you very much.

I did not realize the Body Pure + Detox Pads Foot Pads were a "supplement". I thought they were to be put on the bottom of my feet.

Since you are calling them a supplement, does that mean I am supposed to eat them or make tea out of them?

Can you explain to me how I can tell the difference between which products in a CVS are "supplements" and which products are not "supplements"? I thought that all of the products in a CVS are supposed to do what they say on the label?

Is there something I'm missing on the label of this product?

I still would like more information about tourmaline and those far infrared rays it emits.

Thanks,

John"
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 04:47 PM
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1. They Answered Me Again!


Dear CVS Customer,

Thank you for contacting CVS.com.

The foot pads you are referring to do, in fact, go on your feet as you thought. By "supplement" it is not considered a medication and, therefore, is not followed by the FDA (Food and Drug Administration). This means that there are no clinical studies proving that this product is safe and effective. We cannot say that this product actually does what it proclaims; however, the fact that you are experiencing fatigue and circulation problems could be the sign of something more serious. Please contact your physician to discuss your issues and ask him or her if this product would be appropriate to try.

I hope this meets your needs. Please feel free to contact us if you
need further assistance or if you have any other questions.

Sincerely,

Kelly P., Pharm D.

----

A-HA! They do go on my feet! But for what purpose do they go on my feet? Well, who knows... CVS just puts the copy on their website!

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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 05:10 PM
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2. lol!
There is an evil wicked person inside of me that says you should post your adventures with CVS in GD.....:yourock:
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 05:50 PM
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3. I think I should tell her what I'm REALLY worried about

You see, they also sell "natural male enhancement" products, and I've been very happy with those - my schlong is now enormous. But I'm afraid the foot pads will 'detox' out whatever has been turning my John Thomas into Long John, and he'll go back to being Tiny Tim.


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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 06:25 PM
Response to Reply #3
4. OMG!
:spray: :rofl:
If there were a skeptics DUzy..that would be a shoe in....
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 06:31 PM
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5. hell
we should make our own awards
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 07:03 PM
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6. The thing is...

A Pharmacist should be able to advise me of any potentially adverse interactions between the penis pills and the foot pads.

I mean, that's one of their big "we are professionals" selling points, right?


Man, pimping out a doctorate in pharmacy to peddle detox food pads. Mom & Dad must be so proud of those graduation day pictures. I'd love to know what publically-funded university this asswipe went to.
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Dr. Strange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 08:41 PM
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10. You bring up an interesting point.
What with the correlation between the size of a man's foot and the size of his penis, it quite clearly stands to reason that any detoxifying that you can do via the foot will have some effect on penile quality. It's just common sense, really.

You do us all a great service by asking these questions!

I may purchase this product and use them on my wang. If my calculations are correct, it will not only serve as a detoxifier, but also as birth control.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 10:34 PM
Response to Reply #10
12. My idiot alter-ego was taught...

...that how well a man's foot size correlates with penis size all depends on how big his feet and penis are.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 08:06 PM
Response to Reply #2
8. Oh, screw that. Go for the big prize
and post it in the Health Lounge. Wave a red rag in front of all those woo noses. Let them have at it.

I do love the studied confusion and the all to earnest canned replies from poor Kelly. I have a feeling she'll be looking for a real job soon.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 08:15 PM
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9. Yeah... I could have done a better job on #3
Edited on Mon May-12-08 08:16 PM by jberryhill
To keep them going, you have to dangerously misinterpret what they say, so that they are compelled to "undo" your last misunderstanding.

For example, when she told me to go to the doctor, I should have said that I would go to the doctor, but I followed her advice and put them on my feet. The label says to keep them on your feet for eight hours, and since I work the night shift, I have to stay in bed with the foot pads on all day, and I can't get out to see the doctor. So, would it be safe to take the foot pads off in less than eight hours, in oder to be able to walk to the doctor? I'm afraid that if I take them off, they won't finish pulling out the toxins, and I might poison my feet by having drawn it all down there, but not all of the way out. HELP ME! I"M TRAPPED BY DETOX FOOT PADS!

And I can't get any sleep because my wife won't leave my enormous penis alone!
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 08:56 PM
Response to Reply #9
11. Well, you might want to leave off that last sentence
because that will let her know you're goofing on her and she won't give you another entertainingly stiff (ahem) reply.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 07:14 PM
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7. Okay Email #3 - "Male Enhancement" Interaction with Foot Pads?
Dr. Kelly,

Thank you so much. When Donna called it a supplement, I thought I must have really misunderstood how the product is intended to be used.

I guess I should be clearer. I do not have a circulation problem, and my physical examination by a medical doctor found no illness. I am on no prescription medication.

The "circulation" in question about which I'm curious is because I have been enjoying another fine CVS product:

http://www.cvs.com/CVSApp/cvs/gateway/detail?prodid=277209

"The once-daily tablet for natural male enhancement. Improved sexual response. With Enzyte everybody wins."

I have been very pleased with the results of Enzyte, and my penis is noticeably larger. I will be putting before and after pictures on my blog, because people should know that this CVS product really does work.

My question is really about interaction, and is really more of a "pharmacist" question than a "doctor" question, and I should have been more direct.

Will the CVS Detox Foot Pads "detox" the Enzyte out of my system, and counter-act the male enhancement effect of the Enzyte, or should I just try them both together and see what happens.

On the one hand, I can guess that the improved circulation from the Foot Pads might make the Enzyte work better. On the other hand, I wouldn't want it removing the Enzyte from my system, or my penis might get smaller.

I guess it's a little embarrassing, so that's why I didn't ask up front.

Thank you so much, you have been very helpful, and I won't take up any more of your time after this answer.

John
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 11:39 AM
Response to Reply #7
14. You're a bad, bad man. You know that, right?...
:evilgrin:

Sid
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 11:29 AM
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13. I saw something like that at a different drugstore.
It said it removes toxins from the feet. There was a before and after photo showing a new pad on a foot and a dirty pad on the foot. I had to think it was dirty because someone had been walking around with it on his foot and it picked up a lot of dust.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 04:02 PM
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15. They Answered Again!
Edited on Tue May-13-08 04:04 PM by jberryhill
I didn't get a response to email #3, so I posed it as an original question, saying that I'm taking Enzyte penis pills, also sold at CVS, I'm considering using the foot pads, so I want to know about interactions:

Here ya go:

---
I have a question about interactions. I am taking the CVS Enzyte product:

http://www.cvs.com/CVSApp/cvs/gateway/detail?prodid=277209

and it has been working very well. I am thinking about using this other product from CVS:

http://www.cvs.com/CVSApp/cvs/gateway/detail?prodid=367101

which your website says will improve circulation. I'm having a hard time figuring out how these two things will work together. Will the Detox Food Pads improve my circulation and make the Enzyte work better; or will the Detox Food Pads "detox" out the Enzyte and make it less effective.

Thank You.


----

Dear CVS Customer,

Thank you for contacting CVS.com.

Herbal and alternative medicines, such as Enzyte and Detox Foot Pads, are not regulated by the same standards met by prescription medications. Supplement makers do not need to prove the safety or effectiveness of their products before selling them.

Unlike prescription drugs, supplements do not need approval from the Food and Drug Administration (FDA). Therefore many drug interactions may get overlooked or unreported, so often prescription interactions are unknown. The effectiveness of the foot pads have been questionable to it is difficult to determine if there would be any effect on the Enzyte.

Your physician may know of a safer, clinically studied, FDA-approved alternative to Enzyte or Detox Foot Pads for your health concern. It would be best to discuss this with your physician.

I hope this meets your needs. Please feel free to contact us if you need further assistance or if you have any other questions.

Sincerely,

Annie L., PharmD

Thank you for choosing CVS.com for your medicine and information needs. Information provided by CVS.com is supplied as a customer service. It is not intended to serve as the final authority on your medical condition and its treatment. Such decisions must be made by your physician based upon his/her knowledge of your condition and various treatment options. You are encouraged to discuss this, and other questions, with your physician.
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rexcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 05:11 PM
Response to Reply #15
16. You need to ask her why CVS is selling this stuff...
is being sold by a "reputable" pharmacy if the foot pads are of questionable effectiveness. You have a nice set up to question the integrity of CVS.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 06:05 PM
Response to Reply #16
17. You can probably write the answer yourself


"consumer choice"... "meeting the demands of our customers".... etc.

But, they wouldn't answer a direct question.

But, hey, wouldn't it be great if everyone had questions about Detox Foot Pads for the CVS pharmacist?

Go ahead, ask away:

http://www.cvs.com/CVSApp/cvs/gateway/help/helpAtpIntro

Who's up for Walgreen's?



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rexcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 02:39 PM
Response to Reply #17
21. I saw the foot pads for sale in SkyMall Magazine...
on a Delta flight last night. I got a good chuckle out of it!
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:31 PM
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18. So are you done being an arsehole to this professional yet?
A letter to their marketing department would be more effective, if your point was to tell CVS that you don't approve of their selling the foot pads. Just saying...
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dropkickpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 01:41 PM
Response to Reply #18
19. If I were a pharmacist
hired to do this for CVS, I would find this line of questions to be an amusing little bit of a diversion to brighten my day.
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 02:21 PM
Response to Reply #19
20. And if I were the pharmacist
I would be royally pissed off at the wanker who thinks these emails that I have to answer respectfully have any effect on what my company stocks. But it sure would take my time away from people with actual and sincere questions about their health.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 02:44 PM
Response to Reply #20
22. Oh, please, they get worse than this from Yale frat houses
that specialize in goofing on all sorts of professionals.

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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 03:22 PM
Response to Reply #22
23. You are defending this puerile behavior?
Learn something new every day.
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moggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 03:41 PM
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24. Which is worse?
Trying to get a health professional to justify the efficacy of the products they sell... or knowingly selling snake oil to sick people?
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 04:19 PM
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26. Wasting a medical professional's time tops both of your suggestions (nm)
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moggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 04:21 PM
Response to Reply #26
28. Let me guess
You make money from "alternative" remedies?
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 05:51 PM
Response to Reply #28
29. Guessed wrong
I am a project editor for a college textbook company; I work on human anatomy and physiology texts. I am a hard atheist and skeptic.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 06:41 AM
Response to Reply #26
31. I don't think a proper pharmacy should be selling stuff like this
and then trying to trade off how they have professional pharmacists who can guide you. If they try that combination, then I think the public is justified in trying to get a straight answer out of their professional about what these products are actually meant to do. That answer has basically been "we just repeat whatever the manufacturers claim", which is lazy, and if this makes the pharmacist concerned think twice about selling out to pseudo-science, then so much the better.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 09:03 AM
Response to Reply #31
32. Especially when you consider

...that the guy responsible for Enzyte is awaiting sentencing on federal mail and wire fraud charges, following his conviction in February.

Yet CVS has a website - REPEATING THE EXACT SAME CLAIMS - for which Warshack is going to prison:

http://www.rawstory.com/news/mochila/Enzyte_maker_found_guilty_of_fraud_02222008.html

As far as "professionalism" is concerned, I have three post-graduate degrees, and it is my choice whether or not I used my expertise in support of a criminal enterprise, just as it is with any other professional. One of the reasons I left engineering for law was the realization that in my particular specialty, it was going to be difficult to make a career that did not involve "things that go boom". It is precisely *because* these people are professionals that their ethics are open to scrutiny.

Otherwise, they are simply salaried employees with no professionalism whatsoever.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 04:06 PM
Response to Reply #23
25. Not particularly
but I don't fault it, either.

They opened themselves to this stuff by trying to make a buck off the gullible.
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 04:20 PM
Response to Reply #25
27. Yes, I'm so sure the pharmacist on the
other end of the computer is raking it in, glee in her eyes after seeing the actuals on the foot-pad sales.

What a crappy world this is.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 01:43 AM
Response to Reply #20
30. You mean...
Edited on Thu May-15-08 01:48 AM by jberryhill
...like the way that fake medical products also divert people with actual and sincere health problems?

That sort of thing?

Does this "profession" have an ethics code? Mine does.

Besides, these professionals engage in all sorts of public entertainments:


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