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semillama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 07:21 AM
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Hilarious quote from a book on homeopathy
My wife read this on a board she frequents which is sort of her own skeptic/anti-woo place, and she bust out laughing. I had to share it here:

"On removing the water from the freezer, it will be observed that the block of ice, though now exposed to room temperature, will remain a block of ice for some time. Thus, there exists in water a property which enables it to "remember" for a certain amount of time that it has been kept in the freezer"

Paolo Bellavite, M.D. and Andrea Signorini, M.D., The Emerging Science of Homeopathy: Complexity, Biodynamics, and Nanopharmacology, 2002, pp.68-69 .


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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 08:11 AM
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1. rofl
So I wonder about fog then? I only want to deal with fog that remebers being from clean water sources!
I hope that quote isn't from the "MD"'s. Thats just...pathetic.
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semillama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 08:51 AM
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2. I believe that quote is from the MDs. n/t
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chicagomd Donating Member (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 10:37 AM
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3. Please tell me
that is a joke.

Please?
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 11:58 AM
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4. I'm sorry, it's not.
My own favorite was the baby and child care book that came out in the 70s that advocated a "natural" baby formula that contained an overdose of potassium.

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chicagomd Donating Member (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 09:29 AM
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22. Sounds wonderful,
My mother gave us a "better than Dr. Spock" book about raising kids, "updated for the new millennium", that advised us to put our newborns to sleep on their stomachs with some fluffy pillows around then to simulate the womb.

I thought is was a joke. Talk about an awkward Thanksgiving...
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 12:38 PM
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5. there exists in water a property which enables it to "remember"
:wtf:

Water has a memory? Where did these jokers get their degrees? Bob jones university?
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 12:39 PM
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7. That is the basic "principle "behind homeopathy.
That and "like cures like."
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 01:27 PM
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8. Doesn't homeopathy actually rely on a placebo affect?
From what I understand, homeopaths actually dilute the original dose a doctor would prescribe to 1/1,000,000th of its original strength?

:shrug:

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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 01:45 PM
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9. You got it.
Some of the dilution factors used in homeopathic solutions are LESS than a drop of the real substance in all the earth's oceans. Because, as is plainly obvious, the potency of something INCREASES the more you dilute it! :crazy:
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 12:39 PM
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6. And I thought I had read the dumbest things homeopathy has to offer.
What was it Einstein said? The two things that are infinite are the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former? How right he was.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 03:21 PM
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10. "there exists in water a property which enables it to 'remember' ...it has been kept in the freezer"
That property is called "still being frozen."
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 05:31 PM
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12. but don't you SEE?
it's not in the FREEZER anymore! How can it be FROZEN?!

That's what I thought
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 05:41 PM
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13. I wonder
If the ice I scrape out of our -80 C freezer has better memory than the ice in the -20 C freezer. Seems to remember its ice a bit longer....:P
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 05:47 PM
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14. Instant melting would mean instant transfer of heat.
I don't suppose anyone has ever explained to these damned fools that heat dissipation would have to travel faster than light for ice to melt instantly.

If they were right, clothes would not keep us warm, because heat would dissipate immediately, same with animal insulation, houses could not be kept warm, cars would not run because heat would dissipate from the engine so fast that the burning gases would not expand, and the atmosphere of the Earth would be frozen solid since any solar or geothermal heat would immediately radiate into space.
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 10:58 PM
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17. tuh
typical close-minded "skeptic" :eyes:
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 10:45 AM
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23. No, no, you spelled that incorrectly.
It's "S"keptic. ;-)
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varkam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 04:03 PM
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11. You should totally post that to the health lounge.
:hide:
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 08:53 PM
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15. I broke a glass about an hour ago
Amazingly, it still remembers being broken, even sixty minutes later.

I suspect that will never forget, in fact...
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semillama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 07:45 AM
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21. The real tragedy of homeopathy is this:
If homeopathy were real, I could simply fill up my empty beer bottle with water and poof! the remains of the beer in the bottle would transfer their memory of being beer to the water, and I would never run out of beer.

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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 09:36 PM
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16. Well, I can't argue with that logic.
Correction. I won't argue with that logic.
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moggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 04:14 AM
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18. You know what's really amazing?
The molecules of water in the middle of the block always have the best memory (they remember for the longest), whereas those on the outside of the block are pretty forgetful. What are the chances of that?
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 06:10 AM
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19. Its the air!
It causes water alzheimers!! We have to fight agaisnt teh evul Oxygen. Big Atmosphere is out to get us all....
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onager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 06:48 AM
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20. My favorite quote on homeopathology...
Saw it on James Randi's site a long time ago.

The quote was from a leading "expert" in the field:

"We had to stop double-blind testing. It just doesn't work with homeopathic medicines."
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