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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 01:00 PM
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What the heck is going ON...?!? PC, any words of comfort?
Coups, high publicity deaths, small "sucesses" on environment - still too little too late, drought in India, N Korea launching shit, Pakistan faltering, Economy NOT recovering no matter how much the 'wall st numbers' say so... lots of depression and hopelessness....

Shift hitting the fan?

I am doing really well in my own personal life and feling better about my own growth and manifestiation skills and grounded-ness than ever before...,and at the same time, ALL I SEE IS THINGS CRUMBLING in the World at large ...
yes, i know this is part of this whole change that we agreed to collectively manifest...but it just feels so ICKY in the world right now...
:wtf:

I am glad I live in my rural mtn town and can feel removed from it and still in touch with nature.. I had to go to the bay area last week and i couldn't believe the vibration! like everyone was running on meth! and they are so imersed in it they don't realize they are in it...the frog in the slowly boiling water...

how can we collectively assist this change when SO many are stuck?
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 01:09 PM
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1. Well said, FirstLight. I join you in asking the question....
:pals:


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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 01:47 PM
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2. Coincidentally, material that responds to these questions have been coming in
for the past week........

will try to put it into words for all of you......

It is a heart chakra message.
These are messages from the highest levels
and the most beautiful.
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 02:03 PM
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4. Heart chakra.....
Edited on Mon Jun-29-09 02:24 PM by OneGrassRoot
I was just wondering if high-profile people passing from cardiac-related issues is related to the heart chakra message.

I know many of us have also been experiencing palpitations which can be disconcerting (for me it can be :)).

Thanks in advance, PC. BTW, I'm also glad to see that you have been posting in the main forums without being attacked. It's shocking, I tell ya...lol. You are one of the few who can do so.

Very interesting.

:grouphug:


Edit for typo.
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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 02:20 PM
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5. Comments
Interesting possibility on the heart/chakra problems of late. A great deal of energy is being sent to this planet right now. Many must be feeling it.

Yes no problems on the main forums.
Has been a good experience.
Planting seeds and showing the path of the future.
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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 02:02 PM
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3. Crumbling facade
When I read your post I imagined a crumbling facade revealing something hidden underneath.
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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 02:22 PM
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6. This is correct. nt
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BlancheSplanchnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 02:32 PM
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7. I was so disheartened to see the M$M conspiring with Xtians excusing Sanford
I was thrilled to see the hypocrisy revealed, and now this.......

not to mention everything else.... but being I'm a media head (funny, cuz I can't watch it. But I like to read cultural criticism and analyze the message...), seeing the vast rw conspiracy continuing to get their message across to the public drives me nuts.

I'm absolutely looking forward to PC's inspirations on all this.


(and as for heart chakra energy.... hmmm, dying of anal cancer--guess that would be a metaphor for the need to clean out the shit??)
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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 02:48 PM
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9. The GOP will not survive unless they change. They will look more and more foolish. nt
Edited on Mon Jun-29-09 02:48 PM by Psychic Consortium
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BlancheSplanchnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 09:53 PM
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35. I hope this also highlights for more people the hypocrisy of fake xtianity!! n/t
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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 06:47 AM
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42. Yes it does........ they look more and more foolish in the eyes of the people. nt
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-03-09 11:36 PM
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108. Whigs come to mind, will know, if by 2012 they cannot
even get a fairly descent convention, they are on the way out, the way of the whig

What worries me, is the army of joel and other ultra right wing religious nut organizations...
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 07:20 PM
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28. LOL!!
Needed that, thank you. Too funny. :hug:
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BlancheSplanchnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 09:51 PM
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34. Hugs joyfully ...
enjoyed!!

:hi:

:hug:

:grouphug:
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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 02:46 PM
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8. Esoteric message
(NOTE: This esoteric message has been coming in from Higher Sources for a couple of weeks now. PC thinks it answers the questions posed in your posts today. PC apologizes for the rough translation of higher vibrational messages, it is difficult to put things into words at times….but it is felt when there is soul to soul communication the human words are not critical. Try to feel the feelings and general ideas, rather than word for word mental processing.)


Dear Ones:

(You all are dear Ones with a capital O because We speak to the Higher Selves in you, the part of you that is from the Divine, soul to soul.)

It is known that now is not an easy time.

We say goodbye to the 20th century, to the last millennium, to the many millions of years of earth’s development as we move to a new time. Things are crumbling and falling all around you. But you still stand.

We sweep clean that which must go to make way for the 21st century, and the new millennium. A time of sudden renaissance is a thing of beauty amidst the turmoil.

Many have been sent to assist you. We send you much light and love. Please know that. Reach high to feel it. We love you and you are safe. It is a time for strength, courage, faith.

Many are saying good bye now and that is their choice and as it should be. Some
stay behind; some go ahead to other places. You have all chosen this.

A time right now of so much change is hard for many to see. But have faith that in the end, a new society is built. There is no longer any energy for that which does not fit into the new era. Tune into the new era, not the old.

There comes a time in every civilization when it must either survive or die. This has been your crossroads. But you all have chosen to survive as a people and world. You have made the choice to stay in the universe and spread your goodness to many.

Earth and America have much to offer to other places and in other times, in perpetuity. Your founding fathers were beacons for many to follow for ever. You must survive or the tide and times will not be correct. It is a destiny time now. A stream that goes through the universe, a stream of freedom for all. America’s founding documents are holy papers from universal sources.

All crumble around you for the purpose of re building and moving forward. Do not be frightened. A hurricane blows through your world, but you will be left standing. Many of you reading this are of the future, and you know of what We speak. This is your time.

You are close in our hearts; we hold you there forever and know that you are loved truly and are not alone.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 04:14 PM
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10. thank you
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 04:38 PM
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11. It feels so good to hear
and my face is streaming wih tears... I DID know this when I was a child, that the world I was growing up in was not long for us, that things would be drastically different by the time I was 40 (Jan1, 2010..)

the grief and joy is mixed so deeply
the fear that we may not be able to pull it off
the excitement and eagerness to get ON with it already!

such turmoil, and it is all so deep under the surface and so invisible to so many...
will it do more than just buble out in fits & starts? is it really shifting as strongly as it needs to?
will the shifts in vibration be enough to help us push through?

on the surface I feel like I am still living a relatively "normal" life...(even thugh I am unemployed and on food stamps)
and underneath my foundation has been obliterated and everything inside my beliefs and actions is being rebuilt
is this a mirror for what is happening in front of my very eyes?

blessings and gratitude for the PC and the Loving Others who bring us these messages
please keep holding me and ALL of us in more light as we try to see through the tears and part the veil or reality...

:group hug:
:cry:
:loveya:
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 04:51 PM
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12. ...
You touch me to the core, FirstLight. I so wish suffering would disappear forever.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_j3j1-UhR3-8/RaKldbSGEnI/AAAAAAAAADU/uVZ2_NUjcJo/s400/polar+bear+hug.jpg

:hug: :grouphug:
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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 04:56 PM
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13. Yes. Sadness, joy, fear.
As we say goodbye to those who leave.
To crumbling structures we grew up with.
To what lies ahead.

It is a birthing time, and we suffer from birthing pains.
But the mother pushes the baby through as always.
And the midwives are all around us.

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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 04:58 PM
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14. Recommendations for empaths who feel the pain so intensely?

So much so that it's almost paralyzing at times?

Thanks, PC. :hug:

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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 05:05 PM
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17. You might want to read some of the PC posts made recently in the psychic
training thread, Southern Crone's?

PC lists a number of good ways to clear energy.
Nature, water, baths, showers, music, massage, yoga,
reiki. Exercise, prayer, meditation, etc....
Plants, flowers, trees, fresh air......

Also taking a break from news for a few days helps
a great deal.
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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 08:00 PM
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29. Sometimes
taking a break from the news for a long while is even better (along with the other excellent recommendations you listed). Good to see you posting again, PC.
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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 08:09 PM
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30. Yes indeed. Sometimes a long news break is needed.
Edited on Mon Jun-29-09 08:09 PM by Psychic Consortium
Thank you for your support.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 04:59 PM
Response to Reply #13
15. Thank you.
Thankfully, thankfully, thankfully, it is beginning. Finally.
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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 05:02 PM
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16. Yes. We will not be magically transported to 2012.
But walk through a crumbling world for a while.
We are being given a great deal of help at this time.
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 05:41 PM
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19. Does it have to hurt so much, PC? Unbearable at times.
Thank you for all the guidance. It helps.
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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 05:47 PM
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21. PC sees this:
A mother giving birth.
There must be pain.
There is no other way.
We birth a new world.
Incredible.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 02:47 PM
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50. I have reason to have faith that the energy of 2012 is wonderful.
A much higher density of co-creation/God presence than we are currently experiencing.

Mankind is indeed a noble creature, and it's time for us to demonstrate such through our thoughts and actions.

Partly a reply to the post you were responding to, partly a high-five to PC.
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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 05:13 PM
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57. You are 100% correct..... nt
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 03:19 PM
Response to Reply #21
53. It will be very worth it in the end. I feel blessed to live
in times such as these.

Namaste
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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 05:33 PM
Response to Reply #53
59. Yes indeed.
An eye witness to incredible history on many levels.
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 07:39 AM
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74. As I have always felt I needed to be a 'witness' of the war crimes of our gov, I have
always felt as if I am a witness for more. Truly incredible time.

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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 05:38 PM
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18. I have felt as if always waiting for something since I was a child. I have never felt completely
"real" in this realm either. :cry::hug::cry:

It's been a journey more of remembering than of learning somehow.:shrug:

I have been completely destitute, homeless and have had only 3 easier years, financially or otherwise, out of my entire 51. The last four have been the hardest, most painful and toughest out of the last 51.

I have learned much patience. It has been really weird journey though, and getting weirder all the time it seems.

I am where you are, FirstLight. :hug: We just all keep trying to hold each other up, it's what we do. :)

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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 05:44 PM
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20. PC keeps feeling that some of us are from a different place and or time.
From the future somehow....or a different locale.

We have had trouble fitting in and not truly happy here.
But we came here for a reason.

Perhaps to serve.
To hold higher energy.
To witness an amazing time.

To show the way to the 21st century.
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 06:28 PM
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22. I never felt "I wanna go home"
just wanted this earth to be like is was in the beginning, with better occupants than most that are here now...

I am witnesing, birthing, loving, praying, holding, honoring and watching for the signs that is has finally arrived.

Sooner rather than later I hope!
I read somewhere (maybe here?) that we have recrd the critical mass so well that we are moving ascention "up" datewise....that 2012 will be the culmination rather than the beginning...is this what we see?

...:)...
"are we THERE yet?"

:rofl:
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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 06:56 PM
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24. There have been advanced civilizations on this planet before...
Edited on Mon Jun-29-09 06:56 PM by Psychic Consortium
some of us are from the past, but from sophisticated societies many eons ago.

This planet has a much longer history than is realized.

It is felt that the 2012 change is moving faster than thought. But it will still be a process.

And it will not be nirvana. We will still be a human planet with free will and all that this entails. But the energy shift will be quite signficant.
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mother earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 07:03 PM
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26. Bring on the energy shift, lol, thanks for all of your posts. I did
refer to your journal, it's a great resource, thanks for doing this for all of us. I am always encouraged by the information you bring us.
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 08:47 PM
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31. Sometimes I think a big part of the shift is the increase in positive energies......
making it more and more and more uncomfortable to stay stuck in the old harmful ways. It is not that people will be unable to act badly but that it will feel worse, maybe in part to increase in empathic sensitivity, than ever to act that way so out of self-interest they will choose not to do so.

PC if any of ya'll feel like sharing about those past societies I would love to read it :bounce:
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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 09:12 PM
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33. You are correct.
Edited on Mon Jun-29-09 09:13 PM by Psychic Consortium
The higher vibrational level does not preclude free will at all. But it is going to be more difficult for evil to flourish.

It will go against the individual and societal grain.
And those who do wrong will face consequences more quickly and be seen to be more out of step with society.

It is felt that the history of this planet is vastly underestimated. That there have been many more advanced civilizations, that date back much further than previously thought.

Some of the civilizations may not have occupied the surface of the earth. Some may be hidden in parts of the globe and not readily accessible.

PC has not specifically sorted it all out enough to delineate it clearly. But will try to do at some point perhaps.

But let's just say that humans are like ants on an anthill and oblivious to all that has gone on around us.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 01:02 PM
Response to Reply #33
47. Ancient history ..
There are many resources to aid in the conclusion that humanity is much more ancient than academically taught.
That's one thing that doesn't require psychic powers to establish. Just an honest appraisal.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=245x94488
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 03:07 PM
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51. Hi!
I have seen documentaries and such about the Sphinx showing the water erosion and how it gives some archologists fits. Also have read of some odd ball stuff that doesn't fit with the usual historical timelines so I am already a believer or at least open to learning more. I have remembered unusual tidbits in past life regressions so when I come across things that are stone cold facts that jib with the oddball stuff it is nice to know it wasn't just my subconscious going wild playing with all the Edgar Cayce stuff I read years ago :)
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 03:13 PM
Response to Reply #51
52. Then you will LOVE
that thread and the linked resources. The OP doesn't begin to scratch the surface. It was an evolving work in progress.

And, yes! There is an Edgar Cayce connection. You may be referring to the Sphinx documentary that John Anthony West did.
I've found it the most exciting thing to discover in, like, forever! I feel that I was there too, in a Golden Age; though without any distinct memories. Enjoy!
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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 06:42 AM
Response to Reply #22
41. And that's *ALL* I've ever felt!
"Scotty, beam me up!"

I love the Earth, I work with her and she works with me, but - home? No. Somewhere out there - when I look up in the night at the stars - somewhere, is my home.
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southerncrone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 12:28 AM
Response to Reply #41
62. I've always felt exactly the same way, Delphinus. . . .since I was a small child.
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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 05:05 PM
Response to Reply #62
83. I know
what pain that can cause. :hug:
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eilen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 10:01 PM
Response to Reply #20
37. There must be a better way to live, to be, more free
Edited on Mon Jun-29-09 10:03 PM by eilen
that has been a mild obsession of mine for the last 5 years. It got so I just could not tolerate the job I had, I felt so caged. At work, outside of work. I explored options of opting out, going off grid, researching people who became autonomous, independent, living direct economy. I stopped supporting multicorporations as much as I could, purchasing used whenever possible. But I am not a farmer. I can't just go out and buy 20 acres and poof! we are a homestead pioneer; I realize it is an illusion of freedom that would be a very expensive experiment. However, I have had very strong feelings that people, (we) need to know how to produce the stuff of living. A right livelihood. Producing something or providing something necessary. Not living an abstraction or spending my hours pushing others to buy useless crap they end up going into debt for or spending my energies so I can go buy the useless crap. I have to write this as stream of consciousness as it is an emotion I feel, not a well thought out philosophy. It is a dream that I live on. My fears? My biggest fear is about our food supply, and maybe later, our water. But for now, I see the education system (particularly higher ed), healthcare, finance-- as big rat trap treadmills, going nowhere, bait and switch.
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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 06:55 AM
Response to Reply #37
43. You are one of the people from the future
and nothing has satisfied you in this time and place.
But that is all changing and you are going to feel more comfortable in your skin.

Reform is going to happen.

Obama is going to work hard on clean food, air, water.
Health care and education. These are musts in a 21st century civilization.

There will be much change in the next couple of years.
Hang in there, there will be a place for you.
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BlancheSplanchnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 10:08 PM
Response to Reply #20
38. when I was little, I used to pray that the aliens would come get me...
I was such an outcast....
very emotionally sensitive too, though I went numb through much trauma...had to learn in extended therapy--baby steps back to my feelings... happy, sad, angry, scared was too complicated in the beginning. Had to break it down to Comfortable/Uncomfortable at first, and even that was a tough question for awhile.

sometimes I've wished I could just be like the sheep, it would feel less uncomfortable...

anyway, this whole thread is giving me major goosebumps...

Thank you PC and everyone else here
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eilen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 05:42 PM
Response to Reply #38
61. I used to daydream or think that I was being watched. observed.
but not in a creepy freaky way. More like a Truman Show way. well... I guess that is kind of creepy.
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southerncrone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 12:35 AM
Response to Reply #38
63. I still say that prayer, & frequently. They promised me & I am impatient.
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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 06:55 AM
Response to Reply #63
71. We go home only when our work and lessons are done,
Not before.

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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 03:23 PM
Response to Reply #20
54. It is just something I have always known. As a child from age 6 or so, to about age 12, I used to
stand in the field and wait for hours for the "aliens" to come take me home.

I felt so alone and they never came.

Thank you PC.
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southerncrone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 12:37 AM
Response to Reply #54
64. We truly have a "special" connection here in ASAH. Where else could we openly discuss this & find
kindred spirits who understand. :grouphug:
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 01:04 AM
Response to Reply #64
66. I have too few people in my life who I can talk about this sort of thing with
Edited on Wed Jul-01-09 01:08 AM by Shallah Kali
Thank you all for being willing to share and accept each even when we don't agree :grouphug:

I always felt out of wack with most of humanity like I was born in the wrong time and place even as I felt I belonged, or at least was supposed to be & have a purpose, here. When I first read of starseeds it finally made sense to me tho I wonder about me being one as I certainly don't see that I have accomplished much - unless what some say is true about some working in their sleep. sometimes it is so weird waking up where I am literally not just where am i but WHO am I??? And this without ever touching anything stronger than a capsule of kava or a couple ounces of wine :P Still at times I wake up and have a heck of a time conctecting with the ole bod and just who and what the heck I am supposed to be when awake :P

btw did any of ya'll see the movie Contact w/Jodie Foster? I cried and felt so homesick watching the space traveling segment. I dreamed something like that 3 times in my teens and wish I could trigger another such dream. I was zipping through space like superman but no body that I can recall, just conciousness drinking in the beauty of the stars and floating amongst the nebulae....
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southerncrone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 01:17 AM
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67. The movie Contact effected me, too. I've always felt so confined in this world.
The idea of thinking myself somewhere & effortlessly being there has always intrigued me. It just seems like that's how it should be & not having to deal with all this lumbering around.
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 01:32 AM
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68. teleportation could be very fun.....
as long as one has firm control of the thoughts so they don't end up half at work and half at one's favorite recreation spot :o

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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 11:43 AM
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80. I am weeping in my coffee this morning reading this...
I always thought of myself as such an "earthbound" soul...but yet never comfortable with the maya/ ilusion here. Not only did Contact move me profoundly, but recent ideas coming to front of consciousness, like matrix or what the bleep and especially one callee Little Buddha...
The Lemurian thinking that carried forth in Buddha's journey was really obvious to me - the illusion of it all, and the fact that we have the ability to take moments of breath out of the "water" and be aware of our true soul and self ...

Books like Illusions by Richard Bach, Flower of Life and Awakening to Zero Point really changed my life (in the 90's and my 20s) because I stopped feeling like I was such a freak for seeing the things I did in the matrix of this world around me.
As a child...I used to spend hours and hours swinging on my rope swing, or sitting in the branches of trees as a child and singing to the devas and tlking to he spiritsof the forest, animal, mineral and ethereal...

I want to go home too...but the feeling is that I want THIS Earth to be the home I have Always known it to be for me...and that I want the vision to catch up with my inner reality.

Right now -I want the negativity to stop taking up space in & outside of me. I am bringing more light in, and yet the thickness of the illusion still make me have huge "fits" of forgetfulness and I act with anger or confusion or grief... I want that forgetfullness to get smaller & smaller, so that my outer world can shift too...
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 12:49 PM
Response to Reply #80
82. Western "civilization"
has been cut off from Spirit in order to enslave us to service of the power greedy masters.
You cannot serve two masters.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzKp2PeXeWI&feature=PlayList&p=CFFCFC5C2C73CD93&index=0&playnext=1
Shamanism Aliens & Ayahuasca
this interview is HIGHLY recommended!
Researcher and author Graham Hancock presented his thesis that "supernatural" entities such as aliens and fairies are actually transdimensional beings that humans encounter during altered states of consciousness. The ability to shape-shift has been ascribed to both modern aliens as well as elves and other entities reported centuries ago, he detailed.

Around 35,000 to 40,000 years ago humans underwent a sudden change, and the emergence of cave and rock paintings are evidence of this, said Hancock, who noted that some of their depictions were of part human/part animal beings. He believes these represent the supernatural entities, and through altered states (probably due to ingesting psilocybin mushrooms) humans learned advanced skills from their encounters with these beings.

Nowadays, shamans commonly have such altered state communications. They feel humanity is at a crossroads-- the West has lost contact with the spirit world, and many of the world's woes are due to this, Hancock reported. As part of his experiential research, he traveled to South America and took the psychedelic plant mixture ayahuasca. During one such episode, he described a confrontation with an alien being, but rather than being an extraterrestrial, he suggested it inhabits another dimension that can only be accessed during an altered state.
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 07:31 PM
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99. I highly recommend
ayahuasca ceremony.
It definitely opens the veil to other dimensions.
Psilocyns,peyote and mescaline will also do the same,though its a lot harder to peirce the veil one them.
DMT will also but its a pretty damned hairy ride and you have little control over which dimension you land in.

One of the ways they have cut western civilization off from spirit is through flouridated water.Flouridated water causes calcification of the pineal gland.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 08:50 PM
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100. Thanks for the reminder
on fluoride.

I have completely bought into the messages of the rouge PhDs who have taken the journey. And of course the 10,000s of years old Shamanic traditions.

When they say that the survival of humanity depends on reconnecting with Spirit, and doing the DIFFICULT inner work required, I believe them.

We won't get it with self indulgent, egotistical power trips and giving up our individual power.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-02-09 04:09 PM
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103. "Flouridated water causes calcification of the pineal gland."
!!!

Is there a cure for this? I am alarmed by this (my sight/intuition has definitely faded over time)!!
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-02-09 04:11 PM
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104. Not sure
I have a gut feeling that vibrations from tantric or taoist chants may help break it up.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-02-09 04:50 PM
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105. Youch. Thanks.
I'll pray on it, now that it's safer to "look". Cheers!
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-03-09 10:41 PM
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107. ..here's some info..
there's a thread on Divine Cosmos (I should have known).
Now I'm into this, thanks!

http://www.divinecosmos.com/forums/showthread.php?t=106111
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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 05:11 PM
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84. I've had meditations like that,
floating among the stars, no body, just spirit. That's where I want my next life to be - out there, with the stars, going from one Universe to the next. {sigh} I long for this.

I'm so grateful there are others who feel this; so good to know I'm connecting with kindred spirits or soul family.
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 05:31 PM
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90. I went there again during my between life regression
I would go and float full of peace between lives before my team asked me back to review a possible next life. This regression lead me into several past lives to release the trauma imprinted due to the circumstances of the causes of death and after each I got to go into space and just chill out. Last night before sleeping I tried to visit there and every time I tried to at least visulize it I would start falling - even after giving myself a infalatable raft to lounge on - so I gave up :rofl:
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 07:35 AM
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73. It is a true blessing.
:grouphug:
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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 06:30 PM
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23. I hope this brings hope soon
Edited on Mon Jun-29-09 06:31 PM by get the red out
I get really aggravated at all the misery in the world myself. And I feel guilty sometimes to be fortunate enough to have what little I have like a job, home and healthcare. It makes me worry about what might be around the corner since so many people are suffering, my particular selfish impulse.

I am so glad for PC also, to have hope when things seem so crazy is amazing. PC and everyone here gave me hope during the election when the media was taking the cartoon Republicans as serious contenders and trying to make us think that McCain might win.

I felt like our world became really "artificial" within my lifetime, probably sometime during the Reagan years when I was in late high school or college was when I started to be able to put it into words. It seemed like all the real concerns that were storming around in the 1960s-70s before I came up had been placated and co-opted by materialism sometime around the end of the Viet Nam war. Nothing seemed right to me. The celebrity culture seemed to take over everyone's minds. And no one protested anything, the only thing that looked like a protest was the lines into malls on the day after Thanksgiving. No one questioned anything either, no questioning of religion (except for me, I thought), no questioning of anything the country did, nothing. It was many years before I would really wake up big-time, but something seemed fake about our world to me my whole life.

The President was the first major person who has made me feel like there might be a crack in this artificial world we think we are in. I hope we wake up soon. It will be painful to the people who see the plastic world of celebrity circuses as real. It may bring something better for the rest of us, and them too when they blink the sleep out of their eyes.

It can't bring worse than the Bush years brought us, I think of it that way. If that wasn't a solemn end to the false face of our country, I don't know what is. Things aren't wealth and war isn't a football game.
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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 07:01 PM
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25. The cracks are happening now, in a large and significant way.
We move from a primitive society to a more advanced one.
The 60's and 70's were the first blip into the new world.
Then during the Reagan years,the last gasps of a frightened oligarchy reared its head.

But the die was cast, there was no going back.
We move to the 21st century.
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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 07:03 PM
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27. "To have hope when things seem so crazy is amazing."
You have said it well.
That is why we are here, at this time and place.
We are the sanity in a world gone mad.
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NEOBuckeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 02:25 AM
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69. I've often wondered the same thing.
Edited on Wed Jul-01-09 02:26 AM by NEOBuckeye
About the "artificial" feeling. Growing up, I asked my mother about the 1960s and why the leaders then, John and Bobby Kennedy, and Martin Luther King Jr., and many others, were so truly inspiring to the people, and yet they were all so brutally and publicly murdered and the hopes of the people crushed? Why did we have to settle instead for phony two-faced con men like George Herbert Walker Bush Sr. who wanted so desperately to rule the US and the world while making a profit at the expense of anyone who happened to get in his way? Why did we have to settle for such blatant lies and such sorry, soulless and pathetic men (e.g. Iran-Contra, Ollie North, Donald Rumseld, Dick Cheney/Halliburton, etc.) for leaders?

I told her it seemed like the US and the World itself really took a Wrong Turn during the 1960s. It was as if the Status Quo/Powers That Be saw that burst of awareness and the rise of something completely new, and were so terrified of it that they fought like mad to stop it at any and all cost. The result was the "counter-revolution" of the 1980s and 1990s and a doubling-over of rampant materialism, a consumption-driven economy, media and culture, and so-called conservative values masquerading as holy religion and morality.

I don't think the artificiality necessarily began in the 1980s. As I'm sure others can and will attest, it was around for many years prior. But from what I can tell, it went into massive overdrive in response to the 1960s' awakening. Reagan's election in 1980 was the "high-water" mark for the status-quo's big push back.

Also, on the subject of GHWB, I have long suspected that this man, Jim Baker and his closest associates have all played deep and very ugly, sickening roles in this country's history, going back to JFK's assassination at the very least. GHWB was in the CIA. They have masqueraded as legitimate leaders and respected statesmen for many years, but they have had so much to do with murder and bloodshed in the US and around the world, wherever and whenever it has suited them. Their favored status quo is the illusion that leaves few corners of the world uncovered today, although that fabric is at last finally fraying with the arrival of the next stage of awareness upon this planet. The artificiality is finally starting to give way to the "real" reality.
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BlancheSplanchnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 09:59 PM
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36. tears and goosebumps.....

I don't want to suffer, and I don't want all the good people out here to suffer either...

I just want to be safe and happy..... all of us....
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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 07:02 AM
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44. PC feels the way you do about pain.
Edited on Tue Jun-30-09 07:02 AM by Psychic Consortium
However on Earth, pain appears to be a part of soul growth.

But we are entering an easier time.
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BlancheSplanchnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 11:12 AM
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45. "But we are entering an easier time."
PC, you have no idea how relieved I feel to read that!! (Or maybe you do!! HAA!! ;) if you know what I mean!!)

But seriously, I think that is all we ask... an easier time.

I've had much joy, and outrageous fun in my life and I've also had heaping cups o' trauma.... (childhood was a gold-plated certified wreck--but it feels right to think I was burning off karma)

anyway, I prefer fun and would like to get back to that.

If the point of existence is evolvement, then this HAS to improve, because growth doesn't happen if one is focused on mere survival... and since I believe the macrocosm is mirrored in the microcosm (and vice-versa), those of us who want to move upward would be focused in the direction of growth and moving past these temporary times of just doing our best to survive.....


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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 11:47 AM
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46. Blanche,
That's an excellent point about evolving and growing. Thanks for stating that - sometimes I cannot see the forest for the trees. :)
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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 05:39 PM
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60. Earth is known to be a tough school house for souls.
We are dropped on this planet to survive, serve, grow and evolve. Also to learn the positive feelings of joy, love etc. Without the bad we cannot appreciate the good.

Learning on the other side is abstract and somewhat slow moving. Here on earth it hits home hard, we live the lessons, they are incorporated into our soul DNA and we move forward very very fast. We burn off a great deal of karma while here.....
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 03:50 PM
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56. ...on Earth, pain appears to be a part of soul growth.
I can confirm that for you.

A great lack of love causes me to need others, and thus make note of their feelings..new things for me, in some ways. I resent the obvious programming involved, but want the final outcome to be as configured. Even just a little.
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-02-09 04:33 AM
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102. I have always known this.
"America’s founding documents are holy papers from universal sources."

Thank you for confirming it, PC, and for letting us know they will remain relevant in the new era.
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-11-09 03:52 AM
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110. Thank you.
I was feeling this, and could not find a way to put it into words. Your message puts it exactly right. In fact, I came to this group this morning to see if anyone had been able to put into words the focus I am finally seeing come out of this crazy few weeks.

I knew I liked this group.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 08:50 PM
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32. FirstLight, thanks for starting this thread.
And PC, thank you for your responses.

I've been very upset and unsettled for several days (a personal matter), but reading this has kind of settled me down.

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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 12:32 AM
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39. thank all of YOU and PC too...
been crying off & on as I read this and everything else today...

and yet at the sme time feeling so much hope and inspiration...

carry on...I know it sounds corny, but that has been in my head as well..


"Carry on my wayward son
There'll be peace when you are done
Lay your weary head to rest
Don't you cry no more

Once I rose above the noise and confusion
Just to get a glimpse beyond this illusion
I was soaring ever higher
But I flew too high
Though my eyes could see
I still was a blind man
Though my mind could think
I still was a mad man
I can hear the voices when I'm dreaming
I can hear them say

Carry on my wayward son
There'll be peace when you are done
Lay your weary head to rest
Don't you cry no more

Masquerading as a man with a reason
My charade is the event of the season
And if I claim to be a wise man
It surely means that I don't know
On a stormy sea of moving emotion
Tossed about I'm like a ship on the ocean
I set a course for winds of fortune
But I hear the voices say

Carry on my wayward son
There'll be peace when you are done
Lay your weary head to rest
Don't you cry no more
No

(Carry on)
You will always remember
(Carry on)
Nothing equals the splendor
Now your life's no longer empty
Surely heaven waits for you

Carry on my wayward son
There'll be peace when you are done
Lay your weary head to rest
Don't you cry no more"
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 01:49 AM
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40. What a perfect set of lyrics, FirstLight!
Especially these:

Once I rose above the noise and confusion
Just to get a glimpse beyond this illusion
I was soaring ever higher
But I flew too high
Though my eyes could see
I still was a blind man
Though my mind could think
I still was a mad man
I can hear the voices when I'm dreaming
I can hear them say

Carry on my wayward son
There'll be peace when you are done
Lay your weary head to rest
Don't you cry no more




Thank you, again.

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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 02:12 PM
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48. Rickochet also mentioned the Pluto/Capricorn phenomenon to me...
that may be part of the energies having to do with the crumbling down and restructuring... especially since it mirrors the American and French Revolution times... check out his site for more detail, great stuff!

...and if you look at WHERE the eclipses are falling, it is over that part of the world that is really bubling right now...

I looked on the front page in GD and saw that Iran is posturing more and the people's dissent has been squelched (for now)
AND the Russia/Georgia border is a-brewin' again...BIG military exercise right on the border...

somehow there is more comfort today seeing the weirdness, like it really IS going to be okay...

Thanks PC and everyone for checking in here and on this board so we can All have a touchstone for our proceses...it is so freaking vital to me, I cannot explain.

:grouphug:
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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 05:32 PM
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58. Yes events are: transformation of the existing structure
Pluto in Cap. Yes

Do not worry as things crumble....
it must happen in order to rebuild....
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BlancheSplanchnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 02:29 PM
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49. Anyone here read Kryon?
"He" speaks of ancient civilizations, energies to earth from elsewhere, this period of change, and also speaks on a personal level, how we can navigate the waters, that we are each lightworkers, by our very determination to seek harmony and peace in our individual lives....

What he talks about is insynch with what PC and other intuitives/channelings/etc say......
Quite encouraging.
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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 03:26 PM
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55. Senator Al Franken
Al Franken will now really be the 60th Democratic Senator. Norm Coleman has conceeded. I know that there are nasty blue dogs and corporate Dems in the Senate that will cause trouble, but this somehow represents crossing another hump to me. One more obstacle has fallen, so we keep trudging along. Also something good at the end of all the crashing that has happened this past week or two.
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southerncrone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 01:00 AM
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65. The massive chaos our nation (& planet) seem to be going through now
really is mind boggling. I think yesterday when Bernie Madoff was sentenced to 150 yrs, that was a turning point for me. I've wanted to believe that all this craziness really was going to culminate in a positive outcome for us all. But the judge in that case gave me hope that our entire government & regulatory systems in America are not completely corrupt. Now if Madoff actually SERVES that time, I will be convinced. I sense that there is an aligning of negative forces "meeting their matches" in the form of just & honorable individuals--being exposed & not being able to buy their way out or have it taken care of by a "fraternity brother". It seems like all the rocks are being turned over to expose the reptiles hiding there for all to see. I suspect there will be many more, & rightly so. My sense is this is an orchestrated ALIGNMENT, or matching, not of this world. Karma, perhaps.
Whatever it is, it gives me hope.
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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 06:53 AM
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70. You are correct.
The energy has shifted, it is becoming more and more obvious that evil is being exposed and no longer as successful. Your sentences below say it very well.

Also PC wants to make a point regarding the extent of the American government corruption. America has had a very corrupt leadership, across the three branches of government. The corruption flowed downward and enabled existing sociopaths and those with no integrity to blossom. It also blocked those with good character from operating fully.

However there are many good people in our government. They have been sickened to their cores by what was going on under Bush.

During the presidential campaign PC continually saw these people contacting Obama, giving Obama stacks of documents, stacks of names and information. This still continues.

Obama looks so cheerful and relaxed in public. Behind the scenes there is an incredible depth of work and intensity, power and information that interacts like electricity. Much of the information is dark and very difficult, but Obama handles it all easily and with confidence. He has done this job before, in other times and places. He is enjoying his work very much. But he is also angry at what has been done to the people of this country. He works to correct it, step by step. It will happen.

You wrote: I sense that there is an aligning of negative forces "meeting their matches" in the form of just & honorable individuals--being exposed & not being able to buy their way out or have it taken care of by a "fraternity brother". It seems like all the rocks are being turned over to expose the reptiles hiding there for all to see. I suspect there will be many more, & rightly so. My sense is this is an orchestrated ALIGNMENT, or matching, not of this world. Karma, perhaps.

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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 07:16 AM
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72. We are in good hands now with Obama as our leader.
The PC team members have no anxiety and no doubt at all about Obama and the future of America now. (It is all crystal clear to us, and it is a bit perplexing why everyone does not see it as clearly. But then again America is a country very traumatized by damage, and afraid now as things crumble all around.)

Yes there will be tough times due to the damage caused by the GOP, however all of the damage will allow the rebuilding, so it is positive in the end.

And there will be fits and starts, hiccups and slow downs as Obama tries to steer the ship of state. He is up against many dark forces and incredible damage. He must go slowly, but he will arrive at his destination.

Perhaps this will help to show what we mean: During the election there was a campaign poster, or perhaps just an informal graphic making the internet rounds. It is a bit crude, but captures a true essence. It is a picture of Obama looking hard into the camera, can’t remember the words exactly, saying something like this, "CHILL THE F___ OUT, I"VE GOT THIS COVERED."

Those words are true. Obama is a very complex creature. Very few understand him at all. A true genius, political whiz, and leader extraordinaire. He loves the people, he works for them. He is very angry at what has happened to America, he will put it right, but he is up against very dark forces so goes slowly and prudently. He understands power better than anyone in recent times. He must keep his power and use it wisely, and he will.

There is no doubt at all. He will defeat the dark forces that took over this country.
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japple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 07:54 AM
Response to Reply #72
75. Thanks, PC, for putting into words what we all know in our
hearts. And a BIG thank you to FirstLight for starting this thread.

Blessings, peace and love to you all.
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 10:21 AM
Response to Reply #72
78. This one?


The moment I saw it, I loved it so much--and it resonated with me so strongly--that I kept it. That's the real Obama right there.

Also love this one:



:rofl:

PC, I'm with you on seeing Obama working very hard to do the right thing; I'm not worried in the least (although I do feel bad when I "see" him getting frustrated at the roadblocks and behavior of amoral/stupid people). I get the sense that he wants to plow ahead as fast as we do, but he knows he has to tread carefully, one step at a time. It may take him a while, but he and his fellows in the government who also want to set things right--along with those of us in the "general citizenry" who want the best for this country--will manage it.
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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 10:42 AM
Response to Reply #78
79. Yes.
The top one is the picture referenced in previous post.
And the bottom pic is very correct as well.

Your comments are correct.
There is a side to Obama most do not see.
It is ruthless in the face of evil and in the pursuit
of what is right. The courage, strength and conviction
is totally unshakable.

That is why the GOP is on melt down.
Obama cannot be bought, manipulated or bribed.
And he has nothing they can blackmail him on....

And yes, he wishes more than anyone can know that
we move into the 21st century rapidly. But he must
do things correctly and in the right order. And he
must survive politically.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 10:14 PM
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109. Thanks for this, PC~
I know you all are taking a break now but these really are hard times for a lot of us..the depression and insecurity and it's really comforting to read this about President Obama if one is thinking on a Global level and not just their own immediate self, family, and friends.

I hope the way is clear to return here or somewhere to communicate your thoughts. :)

Peace Out, Cha~ I'm getting PC withdrawals..and I lucked into your post above.B-)
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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 08:29 AM
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76. An Obama quote to keep in your hearts, it will happen:
"Let it be said by our children's children that when we were tested, we refused to let this journey end, that we did not turn back nor did we falter.And with eyes fixed on the horizon and God's grace upon us, we carried forth that great gift of freedom and delivered it safely to future generations."

NOTE: Obama does not mean the kind of fake freedom talked about by Bush et al. He means freedom in a much broader sense.

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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 09:47 AM
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77. The Darkness we call the "right" has "jumped the shark"
The right has now gone fully into the dark. There is a thread about this (with the video) on DU right now, linked below. Glen Beck and a guest on his Fox News show have now openly wished for a terrorist attack on our country so that people will, I guess, make everything "right" again. It is the most unbelievable thing. I have been under no illusions that an attack would make these people very happy, but this is the most open they have been about it that I have seen.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x331454

All I can say is that they must really feel threatened by President Obama and the light in general to become so open about their wish for destruction and death in our own country.
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 12:02 PM
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81. AND I get a disinct feeling they will NOT have the satisfaction...
The light is gaining momentum, franken and little hurdles are showing this... the VF article about Sarah Palin and the eating of their own, like the reptiles they are...

I believe that PC is very right in knowing that Obama has this "F-in COVERED" I keep thinking of that SNL piece where the guy who plays Obama is singing a sweet jazz riff "cuz I'm cool like that..." about not getting ruffled by the ILLUSIONISTS...

He is as cool as they come, and that's also a wonderful image of the energetic for US to hold I guess too...as the crumbling happens and they make lots of noise and call for us to burn...we stay cool and almost amused, knowing that THOSE days are long gone. The grids are in place and we Will NOT fall victim to the old illusions of power and greed and shiny things and stupidity on the TV...EVER again...!

a-ho! so mote it be!
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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 05:20 PM
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85. A recurring day/night dream among several PC members
Two PC members just discovered they have been have the same recurring day/night dream, completely independent of one another, never discussed previously. (We are busy people and with so much psychic material coming in, we don't always share everything we get.)

The dream is as outlined below, one PC member sees only Obama in the water, the other PC member sees a group of people, but it is essentially the same dream.

The dream is of the ocean, and shark infested waters. Obama (or a group of people) are trying to swim from shore to an island far from shore.

The sharks are circling, and Obama/group of people are trying to let the waves (the new energy coming in) carry them forward, getting in a surreptitious kick now and then when the sharks aren't paying attention. Some people go under. Some stay swimming as does Obama. Once Obama and the rest make it to the island, the sharks turn into dolphins, who teach us about how to survive without the trappings of civilization.

A more peaceful existence, and worth all the stress of getting there.

In the recurring dream with Obama swimming in the water, he swims to and fro, back and forth, a circuitous route to the island. Angry bystanders watch from shore, shouting for him to swim a straight direct line from shore to island and to do it fast. They do not see the sharks and dangerous currents in the ocean. They only see the surface of the ocean, not what goes on below.
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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 05:25 PM
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86. Very interesting dream.
I know there is a lot going on behind the scenes or, as in the dream, below the surface.
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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 05:29 PM
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88. Very much so.....a great deal happening behind the scenes..... nt
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 05:31 PM
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91. Good thing the tide isn't going out instead of in. Huh?
Edited on Wed Jul-01-09 05:31 PM by Why Syzygy
Do you know ccpup?
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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 05:29 PM
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87. Another dream from a PC team member
(The entire PC team concurs wholeheartedly with the content of this dream.)

The Dream:

A race with Obama and a lot of other people. We all know he's going to be the eventual winner (he is coasting), but his winning is not the only thing that is important. He alternates between being just barely in the lead, to being among the leaders, intentionally setting the pace for all.

He is waiting for the people to catch up, even temporarily overtaking him. He is pushing people to do their best and contribute what they're supposed to. He is the leader (north node leo) but is used to working as part of a team (south node aquarius) and that is appropriate to the Aquarian Age. He only wants to get so far ahead of the pack. Then he drops back to let us overtake him, pushing us to do our best. Then he lets us push him back into the lead ("make me").

Also, it is a marathon, not a sprint :)
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 05:31 PM
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89. PC, I have a question.
I probably already know the answer, but wanted to ask anyway: are the almost knee-jerk negative reactions of people on DU to anything even remotely positive that Obama and/or his administration does also part of this whole old/new energy thing? Sometimes I feel almost like an alien on DU, because I don't get upset to the point of rending my garments and running screaming down the street like so many other members do. I trust what is going on for the most part (and that includes trusting Obama; not blindly, but trusting, nonetheless), and yet if I respond to someone in a (to me) reasonable manner, they often just seem to get more upset. It's really like we're on two different planets.....or maybe I should say, two different planes.

Just thought I would throw that out there.

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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 05:44 PM
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92. Yes of course, SG!
Edited on Wed Jul-01-09 05:46 PM by Why Syzygy
As you and PC have already mentioned, you all are on a MUCH HIGHER plane than the rest of us who don't make excuses for him constantly! And manifest self serving dreams!

No one could possibly object to someone trying to frame the issue in that way! Perfectly okay to refer to people with different insight as lowly left behinds. :grr:

I am getting primary deja vu. Were you here during that? Or on one of your extended absences?
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 07:13 PM
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96. I have obviously touched a nerve with you, WS.
I'm not saying or implying that I am better than you or anyone else. I was talking about how things seem to be to me. (I think we're entitled to our own perceptions, yes?)

Also, I don't know about making excuses for him (I assume you mean Obama) constantly. I certainly don't do that.

I actually wonder why you responded at all; from your response, it seems you don't believe a lot of things posted in this forum. I could be wrong, and if I am, then I will apologize.

And I was definitely on DU during the primaries, and had many people on ignore, for my own sanity. I was feeling a lot of anger during that time, and felt I needed to dial down my anger and my blood pressure.

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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 08:58 PM
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101. Then you should apologize.
I'm fine with the forum. I don't believe in a messianic Obama. That's all.

Are we entitled to our own perceptions? Really.
That's what I am reacting to. Looks to me like someone has been painting with a divisive paint brush, rather than the usual spirit of respect for opposing perceptions.

You got the answer you wanted. What's a little psychic dependency between two anonymous Internet users? :sarcasm:
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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 06:15 PM
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93. A number of possible factors may account for what you are describing.
Edited on Wed Jul-01-09 06:20 PM by Psychic Consortium
Some have been traumatized by the soul sickness created by the GOP for political gain. Others cannot trust leadership in light of past bad leadership. Many are weary and tired, and want immediate relief.

Some of the complaints are good and are needed right now.
As discussed previously, in a democracy citizens are engaged and actively debate issues. Obama cannot act with out the will of the people. And the people must make their will known.

As an aside, we are all on the same plane.
There is no difference whatsoever.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 07:08 PM
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94. Thank you, PC. Your response makes a lot of sense.
And I agree; if the Obama administration is not going in the direction that the will of the people want, then we must certainly make our voices clear. What I was primarily asking about are the people who don't seem to be happy no matter what, or who seem to be angry all the time. But then, you explained that well also.

And to your last point, I wasn't saying I think that people are on different planes; just that sometimes it feels like it.

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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 07:11 PM
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95. Comments
Edited on Wed Jul-01-09 07:14 PM by Psychic Consortium
The plane comment was in response to another post, not yours, sorry for the confusion.

Yes many have been traumatized by events and the widespread pain is evident.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 07:26 PM
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97. It's all right.
It applied to what I said too.

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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 07:29 PM
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98. :) nt
Edited on Wed Jul-01-09 07:30 PM by Psychic Consortium
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-03-09 09:34 PM
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106. May I ask? A tiny bit of background. I find myself angry at some things going
Edited on Fri Jul-03-09 09:37 PM by peacetalksforall
on today - financial bombing of all of us, physical bombing of some of us. I find myself confused about what day it is. I am reacting in anger as if I was still in the Nixon, Reagan, Bush, Cheney era. Then, I stop and realize I'm in the Obama era and I can't believe that he would disappoint the people who were so estatic about the milestone crossover to a President from a minority group with the talent and gifts to shine and succeed in this leadership role, but I am frightened to the extreme that he may betray us given some of the decisions and lack of announcements regarding the things I hold dearly about progressive greatness to include the little people. Instead we have what appears is a deliberate progress towards a wealth<>poverty society. Does it not matter in facing what is before us? Shouldn't it be as easy to achieve personal and shared 'enlightenment' and progressive acceleration to a peaceful non-predatory society as it is to learn through pain and suffering and the crashing of dreams (paying for education, paying for the best of medical advice, full stomachs, especially for the children).

Question - can we help things along on the financial bombing and thieving that is going on by collectively and spiritulally asking for some person to come through who will whistle blow or expose something that will lead to a clean up of the pretense we live under on a real physical and practical plane? Is it possible to ask for that right person with the end result that more people CAN wake up? Or are you telling us that we are headed there no matter what? Can we specify what we might do collectively to advance this. Or is that cultish?

I keep thinking about the Iraqi exiles and the financial and family suffering we have caused them (as well as those who stayed). The barons who are calling the shots on Wall Street and at the DOD 'war fronts' are still on top. And they are hurting their own, intentionally. The pretense of lies that we are fed are as painful as the results (hunger, homelessness, lack of medicine and education) while the thieving keeps on.

Given our unprecedented ability to communicate can we collectively ask for a breakthrough? Are there practical things we can do together or do we just advance ourselves somewhat individually?

It's kind of funny that what we're talking about in this thread is 'preparation' and that is exactly what radical religous groups in this country think they are doing (but with tons of exclusivity, negativity, and condemnation built in).

I passionately believe in the continuity and threads through and between our souls. I am also conditioned by jobs and survival to think of the practical things that can be done. Therefore, my question. If we ARE consumed with living in our environment that calls for very practical and pro-active ideas for stopping, fixing, all the while we 'know' and acknowledge the fathomless thread of continuity and connectedness, can we combine them?

Or (I repeat) is that cultish? Unnecessary?
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