Very cool thread that might interest you.

[I Have A Dream]

This seems like a thread that MorningGlow, at least, would like:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=5061451&mesg_id=5061451

[MorningGlow]

1. Ooooh thanks for this, Dream

I would have missed it!

After the initial positive response, the cranky cynical naysaying pisspots came out in force, so I posted--did my best to stem the tide. Hee. :hi:

[JanusAscending]

27. Looks like we have a lot of work yet to do MG!!

I was astounded to see how many people are so cynical about anything spiritual! It began with the fundies.........then all of the Christians and Churches. New Age just blows their minds completely!! What will they do when our "alien" cousins make themselves known??? I'm afraid I did get a little snarky with one of the posters, but he deserved it!!! I've never seen such negative
people who consider themselves rational,and intelligent in one post! Are we sure this is still DU? or are they all in a dimension we just left? All I can say is WOW !! There's been an awful lot of Anti-God and Anti- Christ stuff out there lately. It seems like a very heavy darkness coming over some of our country. JA

[Why Syzygy]

28. I see it, JanA

I didn't read that thread after MG's first post, so I can only comment in general. I knew the routine was coming.

There really is a strong Anti bias at DU. I am one that used to criticize 'x-tians'. Not "Spirit", not "I Am". There was always that. But now that I 'believe', it feels painful, in a way. Not too deeply, but I regret my past resentments. I know in Whom I believe must be a strong power to elicit such animosity and hatred. And all that's offered is Love.

Something has to touch someone. A prick. You can't beat someone over the head with the "Truth". If one even possesses it. I suspect those people who kick up such a ruckus, so as to essentially prohibit others from hearing alternative points of view, only have the Anti agenda. There is no pro-active Idea.

It's all about denial of alternative ideas. And I find the blind trust in government entities to be highly freaky.
:freak:

[MorningGlow]

30. Last night one longtime, respected DUer even followed me into the Lounge

He responded to one of my posts in a thread about something entirely unrelated and made a nasty comment about "indigo". He really had to jump through hoops to make the "joke" too. (I ignored him but didn't put him on ignore. Yet.)

It's all about fear. These "too hip for you" folks make a point of jumping on anything out of the ordinary and shitting all over it as quickly as possible, to make sure everyone knows what side they're on right away--in case anyone thinks they're on the "wrong" side and ostracizes them. Damn, it's just like middle school--insecurity and peer pressure (self inflicted). And that all comes back to the herd mentality, which is, at its base...fear.

I just get sad when DUers behave exactly the way freepers do--mock anything they don't understand and even get violent about it. I always hope that liberals are more evolved than our freeper counterparts...and then some libs let me down and I get all depressed.

What's interesting is that if they keep that up, they're going to remain in a reality where they'll continue to butt heads with freepers on a regular basis. I wonder, if they knew that, whether they'd keep doing what they're doing. :D

[Kind of Blue]

2. Thanks for sharing the thread, IHAD.

I still have chills running up and down my arms & legs thinking of that special child.

[lildreamer316]

3. Okay, that ended up really getting to me.

It started out well,but.
Dunno why it's bothering me so much..I guess because I don't understand the vitrol? Why so angry and sarcastic and demeaning?
Just because someone may subscribe to a theory does not mean they are not capeable of rational thought about other subjects. Reminds me of how Christians on DU are complaining about being treated (whether justified or not, I have absolutely no idea).
Am tempted to hide the thread, it's bothering me so. Trying not to post a rant about it.

Ommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm............

Sorry, IHAD and MorningGlow. It was a beautiful sentiment.

[I Have A Dream]

4. Yeah, it was so nice when it first started.

Given how it turned out, I wouldn't have posted it here.

Sorry that it upset you as much as it did, lildreamer. Too bad that they had to pick on the child as well. (That's probably what is getting to you the most. :hug:)

:(

[OneGrassRoot]

5. That thread is a perfect example of why I find myself steering clear...

of the other parts of DU.

Like most places where I previously checked in to get my news, it seems that since inauguration day, everything seems to be infused with vitriol and judgment. The primaries were brutal but, my goodness, I can't get over how it has all intensified since Obama took office! Wow....no energetic honeymoon at all.

Even though the thread was about a supposed "new age" subject matter -- which we know DU in general will tear to shreds -- just about ANY topic tends to be dissected and judged and demeaned.

It's really awful, and no doubt the type of energy that is weighing so heavily on all of us here...causing life to be so challenging right now.

Honestly, I interact as little as possible for self-preservation right now. I may pop in when something strikes me as funny (because DUers ARE, in spite of the other challenging traits in general, so very clever and witty...lol), and I'm content not being as informed as I always tried to be ;)

Wishing you all a magickal, joy~filled day!



:grouphug:

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

7. I try to choose which posts I open in GD wisely

because it is so easy to get sucked into the negativity that often lurks there.

[OneGrassRoot]

8. It really is. You're absolutely right. :)

No wonder we're such a hugging group here -- we really need that energetic support right now to be able to support others throughout our day.

PC is helping us all tremendously in that regard.

I'm very grateful.

For you, ayeshahaqqiqa....:hug:

For everyone.....:grouphug:

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

10. You don't know how much that hug means to me right now

I am near tears and have been since Saturday. My dear husband's illness makes him angry and abusive, and I feel so isolated and alone. This place is where I come to find solace.

[OneGrassRoot]

11. I can't even imagine.....

I am so sorry. Goodness, that must be so very, very hard.

Take a screenshot of the Valentine hearts with which you were gifted....as a reminder of how very, very loved and abundantly supported you are.

I know it may sound silly or trite, but if I may help in any way at all...please, don't hesitate to ask. You certainly will be in my prayers.

And you will have an endless supply of hugsssss......

:hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug:

[I Have A Dream]

15. Here is a screen capture of her hearts as of right now.

[I Have A Dream]

20. Oh, ayesha...

I'm so very sorry. :(

I'm praying for your situation. :hug::hug:

[MorningGlow]

22. Oh no!

Ayesha, sending you light for your situation. Is there anyone you can consult IRL, near you? Does your husband's doctor know how he's behaving? Because if s/he doesn't, s/he should hear about it from you. Please consult him (her), okay? :hug: :hug: :hug:

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

23. Luckily, my MD knows how he is acting

she is trying her best to find out what is causing the deterioration, but so far tests have come back negative (mostly). She is well aware that he doesn't always take the supplements she has suggested and knows the situation well--I work for her and we are living in the basement apartment of her house.

[MorningGlow]

24. That's good

So often medical practitioners don't pay attention to the mental changes in a patient who's undergoing physical stress of an illness. Hang in there, Ayesha. Things will get better. Promise. :hug:

[LiberalEsto]

29. Blessings of peace to you

You're going through a very rough time, dear.

Remember, his anger is not about you. He's angry at his illness and perhaps at his own body. Small comfort, I know.

We're all here for you any time you need us.

:grouphug:

[Why Syzygy]

25. They are nothing to fear.

There are the "truth and facts" gestapo at DU. They are so emotionally tied to proving everyone else wrong for not using their superior form of "logic", never realizing that they are involved for no reason other than some emotional disturbances in their own lives. Either that or it's the super hero archetype gone completely bonkers. 'I'm HERE to save the DAY!' .. and straighten out all us 'irrationals'. haha

They are just as irrationally married to the concept of being "right" as any other rabid fundamentalist. That's what they can never defend. There is no "logic" there. Some of them have even admitted to taking lessons from all the circle jerks at freeper republic. (!) I don't argue with freepers. And, when I run into the facts gestapo, I try to engage on a purely mental level and/or call them on their emotional NEED to correct the world. I've rebutted their foolish methods in my mind many times. ..along the lines of *assuming* "Science" is a static entity. And not just that, but worshiping it as their god. Their god is Big Bang. S'okay with me. But, there also comes the *assumption* that Big Bang is a better god than any other. Irrational, they are.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

6. I saw it when it first posted

and added my two cents. I'm sure by now the skeptics have dumped on it. Which is why I like to post things like that here.

[MorningGlow]

9. On second thought...

GAAAAHHHH it's ugly! So ugly! And now I'm embroiled in several arguments that I know I can't win. Dummy me... :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

Still, it was wonderful to read the OP account, and for that I'm grateful to you, Dream. After that it all went in the shitter.
:rofl:

Seriously, what really upset me were the comments like "Wait till these kids realize they're just mortal." "They're just normal." "These kids are brats." "They're allowed to behave like monsters." Etc. I am astounded that so many adults fear wise, wonderful children so much that they feel compelled to tear them down to their insecure level instead of help build them up into the magnificent humans they can and should be. :(

[Celebration]

12. oh, think I won't go there

Sounds like it turned into one of those anti kid threads. It's just a few, but there are actual kid bashers here. You would think they might remember that they were once kids. Anyway, although it is not an excuse, they probably themselves had a lot of unmet needs as a child, were verbally abused, or neglected, etc.

One of my three kids was always really wise beyond her years, and gee, that made for a challenging life for her. She never really "got" how the kids around her acted. So, she was a bit isolated. She was also just way too smart, even for her teachers. I wouldn't exactly put a label on her; I always thought it was something karmic. But really, there are just kids who have a really unique set of energies around them. I can even remember brief encounters I have had with just a few very special children.

Now, with my own grandkid, other than being pretty bright, and somewhat psychic, he's just a pretty normal acting two year old, who doesn't like being cooped up in a high chair, and is a picky eater.

I think the problem with the anti kid DUers is that they just hated their own childhoods, and really haven't gotten over it. We need to send them some peace.

[lildreamer316]

13. I'm trying to get to that point today..

to send them some peace. I hope I can reach that state of mind.
whew.
God, I love babies and kids...LOL

[MorningGlow]

14. Poetic justice (and the Universe on our side)

Someone asked me just what, exactly, it is about those kids that makes them special (or, more accurately, s/he asked what special traits I apply to them). So LOL I rolled up my sleeves and gave a Cliffs Notes version of what indigos and crystals are like.

Justice: That was the last post before the thread got locked. The other poster never had a chance to poop all over my descriptions. It was the last word!
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Celebration]

16. Thanks, and here's the link

It was hard to find in that 200 + post thread--

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=5061451&mesg_id=5064682

Yes, it seems my daughter was the indigo, probably an extreme version of it. The ADD doesn't exactly fit her, but she does have pretty strong disorganization tendencies. Not that I am the greatest role model, but my other kids survived that better.......

The kids I remember, yes, those are the crystals.

[MorningGlow]

18. Wow--thanks for looking that up!

That must have taken some effort! Yeah, not all traits apply in every instance, for either indigos or crystals.

And now I'm sad, because it's also infiltrated the DU group on Facebook. The mockery and slamming continues in that other medium, and I really can't take much more of this negativity... :(

[Celebration]

19. Oh, man, one DU is enough for me!!

I can't imagine an *unmoderated* DU, which I bet is what the Facebook one is.

[MorningGlow]

21. It's usually just silly random chitchat, and very brief

I was very dismayed to see this topic turn up over there. :( :( :(

[BuelahWitch]

26. I'm glad you pointed out that post

I didn't get all the way down to that one before I clicked out of it. I'm glad I got to read it. :hi:

[davsand]

17. I stuck my head in there before it got locked. I ran screaming.

Oh my, was THAT ever ugly!

I dunno, seems to me that there is a very real tension these days everyplace I go, and it isn't so much political as it is people who "get" it and people who do not. I am starting to wonder if maybe a large part of the negativity is, in fact, from the ones who simply choose not to ascend and they hope to dampen down anyone else.

I'm reluctant to go there mentally because it is all too "conspiracy theory" for my taste, but it just really feels like there is a group of folks on here that are working (and pretty much always have worked) as hard as they can to keep everyone else at the level they are on. (It kinda feels like the one kid in the class who knows he's gonna flunk and he's determined to hold up somebody else for company--ya know?)

I see my 11 year old and I hear the things she talks about and I realize she is working at a much more evolved level than many of the "adults" I encounter every day. Like any Mom, I hope for her to be happy, healthy, and better than I am myself. I can't imagine why anyone would want to ridicule either that hope or that child.

Makes me sad. Peace to you all.



Laura