UFO fans here--

[Celebration]

Don't miss this story-

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3724814

Love the "man in black" angle. Funny how some people just will not be intimidated.

[NJCher]

1. read it

thanks, itsjustme. I read it last night. I was amazed at the lack of knowledge amd the number of logical and thinking errors by the people posting on the thread. I was going to post back to each one but it would take at least an hour!

I will mention one error just because of time limitations (I'm at work).

The posters, and especially the first one, assume that it was a failure of top-secret aircraft the DOD is developing. That is a possibility. But in fact, UFOs have been found around all our missile sites and our bases. They watch them much of the time and in particular when there have been times where "war is in the air."

This UFO that went down could easily have been an alien aircraft. No one on that thread wants to admit to that possibility. I agree that it is hard to make that connection but the more one reads about it, the more obvious it becomes that this is what is going on.

Also, not a single person on the thread saw the Larry King Live show that we all saw and commented on. In that one, as you know, numerous retired military men talked about the fact that aliens are not just watching our defense systems but are quite possibly disabling them.



Cher

[JanusAscending]

4. I read it too...and also posted on that thread.

I beg to differ with you, as I have seen the Larry King show re UFOs. If you'll re-read my post..I said that I did believe in UFOs, and wasn't frightened of them any more than I am of "our UFOs." My post started out with "OOPS!!" I tried to relate to folks on this thread a lot of what I read on one of the Matthew Letters, without giving away too much "conspiracy theory" on GD. Did you perhaps miss my post? My gut feeling tells me that it was something of ours, that we are desperate to keep SECRET. Like everything this Gov. does. :shrug: :hi:

[Why Syzygy]

8. Cher .. I hope you see this

Have you watched any of the Tsarion videos? I think they could give you additional information on your new UFO hobby. Connect some dots. I could be wrong.

Here's a link to the google search for his vids >
http://tinyurl.com/6msml3

[crikkett]

2. Real question here: dont all helicopters look black at 3am?

And we're almost at a new moon. The moon's setting early in the night. There wouldn't be moonlight to see the helicopters or the SUV's by.

[Celebration]

3. yes, but

this happened earlier in the summer. Also, I think the radio station guy *did* identify the trucks as being black, but not the helicopters. I listened again and I believe that Bob the houseboat guy just said helicopters, not black helicopters.

In all likelihood it was something of ours, though, given the quick response. I just hope it wasn't nuclear.

Bob could identify where it landed, but Bob appears to be gone--who knows where. That is kind of the strangest part of the story. Where's Bob?

[NJCher]

5. quick response doesn't mean anything

We have radar and people watching our borders 24/7. They know whenever something enters our airspace. They track it and if it can't be identified, they go out to check it.

The U.S. government, after Roswell, has become extremely adept at picking up on crashed alien spacecraft. They have a huge incentive: after Roswell, they received a huge technological bonanza from that spacecraft that they reverse-engineered and which led to the major jump in technology that we have been experiencing in the last few decades. Corsi's book explains how they did it. Corsi, the person in charge of this project, tells how they carefully covered their tracks, using military defense contractors to develop the technology. Examples of what was developed are fiberoptics and Kevlar.

Ever since Roswell, the U.S. government has been very fast at recovering crashed alien spacecraft. It's almost as if they are just waiting for it to happen. They have even gone into other countries to retrieve a downed spacecraft. How they get away with this is amazing to me, but they do it. This is how aggressive they are about it.

Howard Blum's book ("Far Out") exposes the fact that contrary to what they say, the U.S. government is highly involved in tracking UFOs. They even have a collection of downed spacecraft which is secreted in a highly guarded facility known as Area 51.

My point is that the posters on that thread wanted to automatically assume it was a U.S. gov't failed experiment. That is not necessarily so as anyone who is familiar with this topic will tell you that UFOs are tracking everything we do in regard to space, nuclear, etc. The spacecraft that went down could just as easily have been an extraterrestrial spaceship.



Cher

[JanusAscending]

6. Something that puzzles me................

This is supposed to be a farther advanced civilization than ours, especially technology, science and the laws of physics, right??? Then why are they all of a sudden having problems with their crafts, and crashing all over the world??? It seems strange to me. I do believe in them, I really do. Could it just be possible that we are trying to imitate the craft that crashed in Roswell, and are not being very successful???:shrug:

[NJCher]

7. appears there's no such thing as "human error"

Must be a law of the universe: if things can go wrong, they will go wrong. Everything is subject to error.

I would say two things to your question:

First, things haven't been going wrong all of a sudden. EBE (extra-biological entitites) have been visiting this planet for as far back as can be traced. There are pictorial examples of spacecraft that has crashed and it shows some EBEs who could adapt to life on this planet have tried to stake out an existence. Trouble is we humans want to kill them and usually do.

Second, people underestimate the sheer volume of spacecraft visiting this planet. Only a portion of them can be seen. Using infrared cameras and other means of viewing, there are a lot more than what you might think. Keep in mind also that for quite some time, we have been sending out signals into the universe ("hey come visit us!"). If you recall from the LKL show, one of the military men stated there had been something like 50-85 different types of entities visiting us as categorized by the government.

Now speaking of errors EBEs make: The errors that really crack me up are the ones the abductees tell. There are people returned home with the wrong clothes (wearing some other abductee's clothes). (yes, there are mass abductions) Abductees tell of being returned to parts of their house where they weren't sleeping. Or of finding themselves sleeping in their bed upside down, with their head at the foot of the bed. It appears the EBEs get confused and may not be very organized. :)



Cher

[Digit]

9. You have heard the saying, "close enough for government work?"

How about, "close enough for extraterrestrial work?"

I get a comical vision in my head of a grey placing a person upside down in their bed, and just saying, "ah, close enough".

Cracks me up.

[Why Syzygy]

10. Something that

I thought of this morning while reflecting on this thread and the information Cher's given us ..
AI . Since we've gotten other technology from them, surely AI would be one. Maybe some of the "explorers" and "technicians" that abduct and make errors are AIs working on behalf of the off worlds. Alien "artificial intelligence" is trippy to think about :think:

[Shallah Kali]

11. Smarter doesn't mean all powerful, all knowing, or infailable...& Murphy's Law must be universal

and besides who knows how much knowledge some of these ETs have ripped off from one another. Here is another thought - Just because a species produces a couple of Einsteins does not mean the rest of the species is that smart. Who knows, maybe their spaceships get built by the lowest bidder or the equivalent of somebody's brother-in-law or they only got enough research funding to buy a clunker and fix it up :shrug:

As for the abductors maybe they figure humans are so below them they won't be smart enough to notice things out of place like that. I wouldn't rule out contempt as well as carelessness in beings cruel enough to experiment on sentient lifeforms.