George W. Bush's Horoscope, Post Election

[jen4clark]

Hi! I mostly hang at Politics and 2004 Elections, but zidzi and AZDemDist6 suggested I bring this over here. Hope everyone enjoys it! It's a trip!

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/gwbhoroscope11nov04.shtml

An Essential Indian Astrological Analysis of G. W. Bush (and the country he is leading for the time being)

First of all, this is not a horoscope of a true ruler, it is rather that of a puppet being forced to perform because he has no choice.

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In fact, it has always been relationships and friends who managed his life so far; these relationships and friends have been simply extreme, however.

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Indeed, it is possible that the whole country will break up under or soon after his second term (see later), which he is probably not going to complete in office.

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...We do not think he will be killed, but he may perhaps stay in confinement for a while, and it is certain that he will have to face some sort of judgment for his deeds. He will face the wrath of people for wars, the economic collapse and for his lies – which he believes have been committed for the sake of the nation.

He is an alcoholic – it is next to impossible to remain sober for a long time with this constellation. (Mercury with Pluto and Saturn, with Moon as dispositor means a destructive mind). Even though he says he is sober since he met Jesus when he was forty (the exact time is more like his early forties), he probably drinks now as well. (Or those who control him hand the stuff out to him time to time.)

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...he fortifies his enemies with all his fighting. He does not know why, but the more he fights any party, the stronger his enemies become. Since he is more fanatical than his handlers realize, this will bring America into bitter and unnecessary conflicts. It was oppression and war that he was put into office for (Dasa of Saturn and bhukti of Mars). The duality that the sign of the Twins marks will force a lot of people to take sides under his rulership, changing collective karma.

He should have avoided all power, even that of a mayor or a frat president – he is bringing a dark quality into it...

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...Under his presidency the rich get richer and the poor get poorer – large masses will sink down into poverty, and debts of unheard quantity are and will be amassed. This will be a primary reason for his downfall, which can be stalled for a year or two (a lot of double communications, accusations, leaks and denials will take place even until then), but starting from 2006, it is a good idea to collect gold and silver and property in remote lands.

When Jupiter enters Scorpio in sidereal counting (late October, 2006), his enemies will have a field day, and in 2007-2008, when Saturn and Ketu pass Bush’s natal Mars, economic and personal collapse cannot be forestalled any longer – for himself and the country he leads. At a certain point his handlers will abandon him and it will be open season on Bush...

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He is generally heartless, without much emotion, extremely narrow-minded and dogmatic, ruthless and operates invisibly sometimes. Bush cannot let go of tradition and the past at all; in fact, he is not normal in his fanatical illusions, but since the larger part of America presently accepts this particular type of madness, he is not going to be brought down from office due to sheer mental incapability. He has giant problems with his masculinity, and a constant desire for power and riches which – in his perception – he rarely gets. The ruler of the house of the future on his ascendant together with Saturn and Pluto cranks up his ego and lifts him up, but will certainly drop him at a certain point. The wars he will bring about can cause the very dissolution of the country: the issue fought for is an old one, probably a war on religion, the Crusades etc.

In spite of the orders of his consigners, he will not stop when war or attacks are hopeless: the main reason is religious fanaticism (and illusions on acquisition of land for the control of the USA). This tradition will be forced to change (the entire order of values he grew up with will undergo a radical change until 2030), and Bush will probably live long enough to see everything he fought (and lied) for crumble to dust. If he came to this astrologer for advice, we would have to be very careful in what we say or signal to him – he would be dangerous and possibly vindictive...

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http://educate-yourself.org/cn/gwbhoroscope11nov04.shtml

*edited to fix links

[jrthin]

1. A BIG thank you. nt

[mhr]

2. Corrected Link

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/gwbhoroscope11nov04.shtml

[jen4clark]

3. Arrgggg!!

So sorry! I cut and pasted from my post on the Politics forum and didn't remember the links were different! Will fix it now!
Thank you!!

[Me.]

4. " perhaps stay in confinement for a while"

a padded cell in an institute for the criminally insane?

Thanks for this, I can hold on now until the show starts.

[Dover]

5. Thanks! Not familiar with Hindu astrology. I think many DUers have

drawn similar conclusions, though...without an astrologer's help.

I was able to 'get over' Kerry's loss of the last election because I felt, as this astrologer does, that he was simply a kinder face on the same policies and shared the same 'backers' as do politicians from both parties. And yet, people continue to maintain their illusions.

From this article:

As far as his opponent, Kerry is concerned: we are surprised to learn – looking at his chart – that he is moved by the same Plutonian forces, which means he would have been the executor of the same will as Bush. We say this is surprising, since his intelligence and personality would lead one to believe that his presidency would have been very different from Bush’s second term. Not much needs to be speculated at this point, however, since he has some particularly bad transits (in Indian astrology) which enable even such a man as Bush to win a landslide against him. One wonders if the powers to be simply picked him to be a nice person who is bound to lose, but we cannot be certain, since they are probably not aware of the intricacies of Hindu astrology. One thing is certain: people in the same generation bear the same karmic burdens, having the transpersonal planets in the same places, and even though Kerry is truly a nice man, an independent personality, and probably a better economist and soldier than Bush, the powers behind him are – would have been – quite the same. All we can say is that the dissolution of the same negative powers will probably be all that much quicker under Bush. I would start to keep my wealth in gold and silver or foreign property from 2006 on, though, and not wait until the oatmeal hits the fan.

[Cha]

6. Wow! Interesting!

When bush got in again..I was bouyed by friends who told me that this was the way it was meant to be and we really don't know the undercurrents of what this means right now.

Thanks, jen4clark, for bringing this to the astrology forum!

[FreedomAngel82]

7. Right

I had someone else tell me that too. That he was supposed to return. At first things felt weird to me and not right and that's when I figured he probably stole the election again from Kerry. Now of course things are back on track and making sense to me and things I have seen. I just hope we can get him for all of his crimes and his whole administration too. I would love Kerry to be the prosecutor.