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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 11:20 PM
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What do you do about negative, and extremely negative people?
Edited on Sat Jun-07-08 12:19 AM by Peake
Belligerent, selfish, destructive types who have to screw up everything for others, and those who actually call upon the lower realms to cause destruction?

Of course you cannot stop them, and the effect that this negativity has upon the overall energetic balance (and thus unfortunately upon us all), but at what point do they actually get that they're shitting where they eat, and grow up?

I'm in transit from being negative, to being positive, and cannot deflect the inherent ugliness in those I've attracted, to clear the path to my greater healing. I'm asking the Universe in general, and watching gas prices rise in direct proportion to the overall ugliness done, in the new energy of Heaven on Earth (total responsibility for thought/action/energetic output).

You just can't convince people to flee a burning building if they enjoy flames. The problem is, when others are burned. When will the truly black completely implode in this new energy? I'm utterly sick of the polarities but seem to be unable to let them go.

Al Anon???

Edit: Thanks to whomever sent that light. It's much appreciated.
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Bluestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 01:50 AM
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1. An interesting post
I'd like to share something from one of my guides. I used to take negative energy and reverse the polarity of it to shift it back to the negative person. That is, I would do this if they were causing a problem for me or someone else--if the negative person was only causing a problem for themselves, I would do nothing. Then lately, my guides told me to actually shift those negative energies to love. They said there was enough negativity in the world, it was time for the lightworkers to turn it to love.

I think the most important thing for lightworkers to know is that we CAN actually shift the energy and we don't have to put up with this negativity. It's about taking back our power and helping the ascension along.

Thanks for a thought-provoking post.

Bluestar
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 02:03 AM
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2. Transmutation - the medieval achemists were on the right track in a way
Instead of turning lead into gold we can turn bad vibes to good. Or for a more organic anology think of composting where you can take waste ranging from veggie peelings to manure into rich composte that enriches the soil and so enriches the entire circle of live. I try to do a bit of this every day not just in myself but also in public areas whether road intersections with where there tend to be lots of accidents to government buildings to national parks.
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 02:18 AM
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3. Disconnect from the dominate paradigm aka group mind aka collective consciousness
I have cut cords to those things and broken any past life agreements to participate in these scenarios any longer. I do what I can to empower myself and others trying to improve things for us all including energy clearing and boogy busting. Energy clearning makes everyone healthier and happier and provides less sustenance for the bogies. Calling in the beings of divine light who wish to help the bogies to at least move them to a place where they can do less harm and at best actually bring them back to the light raises the energy up for everyon as well. It is hard to do but sometimes tough love is called for and letting those who are determined to go down the neggative path go on instead of trying to save them is hard but some people won't stay 'saved'. Somteims they throw themselve back into the same mess again and again and all a person can do is stick to helping those who actually try to be helped instead of breaking one's heart and wearing out body and mind trying to assist the others.And then the unrepentant negatives - I run away and avoid 'em like the plague and make sure there aren't any cords or connections betwen us.
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 08:19 AM
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4. From some of the things that you've posted recently...
I think that you're on the right track. I think that the key is to not respond to them the same way. For the most part, I think that the whole "like attracts like" really is true. I'm not saying that when something bad happens to a person, they've always brought it on themselves. However, I am saying that we can deflect a great deal of the negative things that happen to us by controlling how we react and where we allow our minds to dwell. I believe that we can't control where our minds go, but we certainly can control whether we allow ourselves (i.e., give ourselves permission) to immerse ourselves in the feelings/thoughts. (Caveat: I know that there are some people with mental health issues that preclude their ability to do this. I'm not talking about them since it's a very different issue in their situations.)

I know that this is easier said than done, though.

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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 08:38 AM
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5. there are so many techniques to deal with this
Find one that works for you. (meditation, techniques to increase aura, sage, EFT, etc.) One of the easiest and most effective things to do is to infuse any negativity that you run across with infinite love and gratitude. Once you do that it loses the power to harm you.

You can use the mudra (sign language sign) plus a simple affirmation to accomplish this--



"I infuse this (particular thought or attack), from (particular person or place) with infinite love and gratitude", and put your hands in the sign language for love.
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 03:12 PM
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11. curious how similar that is to the sign of the devil


Looks like the difference is whether the thumb is out or in.

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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 04:42 PM
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13. yeah, sort of like horns behind the head, I see
Lots of really good symbols have been co-opted by the dark side. The biggest example is the Swastika. It is really maddening.

There may even be some gang symbols that are close to this.

It is also close to "Hook 'em Horns" (Texas symbol)

This has universal sign language meaning, and when accompanies by the words "infinite love and gratitude", does a really good job. There is actually a whole book about it that Hay House publishes.

http://www.amazon.com/Power-Infinite-Love-Gratitude-Evolutionary/dp/1401917178

I am not necessarily recommending the book. It is okay.
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 08:57 AM
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6. I can tell you that I had a very good friend who was wise and loving
she always always started with "focus on yourself and take care of yourself."

What do you need, to feel better, without regard to the negative one(s)? It doesn't matter what they are doing, unless they are doing something the law should be involved with, you have to keep your focus on you and your life and what you need to do to make it feel right for you. You can't worry about outside influences, you have to take the steps to insure that you are safe and happy.

It's a strange dynamic at play, the things that you think need to be fixed will work themselves out, your focus has to be on what you need to do, about you.

I used to take a hot bath when I couldn't sooth myself and that always helped me. Do something for yourself right now, something that is nice and soothing. Start there and then decide what you need to do for yourself without regard for things you have no control over.

Wishing you lots of love and light on your journey.
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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 10:16 AM
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7. want to add one more thing
If the energetic things don't work, and let's say physically your autonomic nervous system is in overdrive from some event--palpitations, getting a hot face, can't relax enough to sleep, etc.--I use Valerian to calm myself. Then the energetic techniques can work better. This is not a regular thing that I have to do, but it works quite well when I need it.
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davsand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 02:34 PM
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8. Do You Ho’oponopono?
Article here:

http://www.todayisthatday.com/blog/do-you-ho-oponopono/


I know there was at least one DUer (Banzai Bonnie, maybe?) who was studying Ho’oponopono and she was really tickled with how well it worked for her. I have found the articles on it to be just lovely--maybe you would enjoy them as well.


Regards!


Laura
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 02:43 PM
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9. I find that when their energy becomes a burden to me that I have to
cut them loose. They aren't accepting any understanding or good vibes that I am sending to them or listening to anything I say about how their negativity is messing with their lives, so I find I have to protect myself from them in the end. There are some you can't save and may have to leave for another with stronger spirituality to help them.
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 03:06 PM
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10. I do this
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 04:19 PM
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12. I hear you, Peake
It sure can get frustrating. We all want the new energy to arrive completely, but we're still in the middle, still in transition. I, too, get dismayed when I see people still operating according to the "old ways".

How to handle it? Depends. If someone is intentionally doing harm to others (or even unintentionally--I mean they don't realize the extent of the harm their actions or thoughts can cause), I usually blast them with pink light. Quite frequently, you can actually see them soften and then stop being so negative.

If someone is just being annoyingly negative (wallowing in self-pity without cause, for example), I neutralize their energy instead of feeding it--giving noncommittal responses if they don't want to hear anything but more negativity, etc.

If it's the national or worldwide negativity from dark individuals, I have to take myself out of it--not check the news (even on DU), and instead do something more spiritually uplifting, like listening or making to my favorite music, reading a good book, or even just existing in blessed quiet for a while.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 02:25 AM
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14. What do I do?
I look for the lesson.
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Callie McAllie Donating Member (873 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 08:45 AM
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15. I agree with Cleita and wlucinda
Some people you just can't help. You need to get away from them, or they will continue to drag you down. It took me a long, long time to learn that, maybe I'm still learning it, but I'm better now about getting those negative people out of my life than I used to be.

And the other thing is to look for the lesson. The steps you have to take to get that person out of your life and keep him out. There's a lesson in it for you, you just have to watch for what it is.

Good luck with your transition!
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 03:42 PM
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16. Life is a perfect mirror of our inner workings.
I am the negativity and characteristics which I reject in others. I'm working on it through AA and don't often appreciate the mirror which it provides. I am willing, however, to accept the lesson and to change in myself that which I do not like in others.

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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 03:53 PM
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17. This is sort of related, so I hope that you'll help me to understand this.
Many people believe that everything that bothers me in other people are things that I'm actually guilty of myself. However, I don't actually see that. It bothers me when people are careless, and I go out of my way to be careful and considerate. It bothers me when people are mean, and I go out of my way to treat people with respect. It bothers me when people are tight-fisted with their resources, and I try to be generous. These are just a few examples. Can you help me to understand what mirroring really means, because I can't see it in my own life, and maybe I'm just not truly understanding it? (I do have a short fuse in reference to my temper, and that actually does bother me in other people, so I can see how mirroring works there.)

Thanks, Peake! :hi:

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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 05:35 PM
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18. I couldn't tell you- our paths appear to be very different.
Mine is very clear as I could not make any changes otherwise. I need to be hit over the head repeatedly to get that something isn't working. Doesn't sound like you, does it?

This, and my over-responsibility to others' bad attitudes...
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 05:59 PM
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20. Thanks for your response. Maybe I'll understand it someday.
:)

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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 06:12 PM
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22. You're silly.
:hug:
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 06:15 PM
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23. Just to be clear, I meant maybe I'll understand "mirroring" someday...
rather than "your response". :)

:hug:

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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 06:00 PM
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21. it's odd
I'm not very neat (although somewhat organized??) and for some reason lack of tidiness bothers me in other people. That must be mirroring.

I used to get really angry when people were mean. Sometimes I still do. But it really is a big symptom of someone being imbalanced energetically. I'm somewhat more sympathetic now. What does bother me is that people don't know about energetic techniques and they don't have the skills to change their ways.

When I get out of balance I mostly start judging myself. That is not fun, but at least it saves the people around me.

Thank goodness for energy medicine. I am giving gratitude as I type.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 05:58 PM
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19. Two suggestions
Avoid them whenever possible - as kindly as you can of course so they don't feel you are punishing them by not being there for their verbal/nonverbal abuse.

AND, pray for them. Ask for guidance on what prayer would work best for them.

Rinse. Repeat.

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3littlebirds Donating Member (51 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 06:45 PM
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24. Try to find anything positive about this person.
I work with someone like this. And it is not easy. His life is a mess. But than again he hates everyone. Negativity just flows through him so easy. I have something to deal with this, but he is hard. I try to find anything positive about this person and only think of it. He seems to get the vibe and suddenly calms, but he and I are at odds at all times. He is the hardest person I've ever come across, but than again I think of it as a challenge, maybe its karma or some old stuff I need to get out. I see him as a reflection of myself and forgive and just let it flow, and it seems to get easier. He is controlling me, not the other way around. He bothers me with his negativity, but it is me who is bothered not him. So it becomes my problem, I need to let it go. But certain people are just impossible. I actually joined DU just to respond to this question, as I am going through the same thing. It's not easy, but you need to solve it withing yourself and it will go away. It can be done.
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 06:51 PM
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25. I'm so glad that you joined, 3littlebirds!
Welcome! I hope that we see a lot more of you.

:hi:

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3littlebirds Donating Member (51 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 06:57 PM
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26. Thank you
I've been lurking here for almost 7 years and have never joined, but alot is changing in my life and I do check in on this website every weekend. I I feel a big change in the air, and I feel like becoming part of a group. It's strange, but happening none the less. The question about negativity was one that is on my mind.

thanks again.
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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 07:17 PM
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27. Love your name and welcome n/t
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Flying Dream Blues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 07:56 AM
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29. Welcome, 3littlebirds! Love your name and so glad you joined us.
I too hope and feel that change is in the air.
:hi:
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 09:40 PM
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28. Interesting discussion...
I think there are perhaps several types of negativity you are talking about, one is deliberate the other is active in an unconscious level.

As I take an example of my mother, who is also very negative, I had to figure out what was causing or created the core belief of hers - just trying to understand. Of course she is affecting everyone and everything we do - putting all sorts of non-existent what-if worst case scenarios into the universe - formulating affirmations of the worst kind. She is very nosy, but I do no longer tell her any details of whatever I have in the process or am doing.
There are a lot of core emotional issues at play, including lack of control, losing control, possessiveness, mistrust, dependency, disappointments, high and illogical expectations of self and others.
Somewhere, we have to draw the line, and I am working on it. There is a lot of emotional blackmail, however we can really not be responsible for the emotional problems of others, except as to give caring or sometimes harsh support towards self realization.

The deliberate negative ones to me are people who are vicious, harmful and indifferent of others suffering - i.e. sociopaths - Cheney, Bush et al, my ex would fall into this category.

The old ways or generations learned to behave a certain way, which is mostly authoritarian and based on success and prosperity for oneself or the immediate family. "Survival of the fittest" how cruel of a society. I believe that is why we have the homeless problem. I do believe this mentality is on the way out, as people are starting to see what happens to others affects you, too.
I think, sociopaths feed on energies of their victims - as for Bush & Co. they have less and less to feed upon. The majority no longer believe their manipulation for example - everyone is fed up.

Gas prices - is speeding up the process - it will force us to choose alternatives, conserve, change our wasteful ways, be thankful of what we have -

but you are right, those that like to be in the flames we can not, and maybe should not, interfere with, it may be their life lessons.

strength and light to you :)
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