"Obama a Lightworker?" Cross-posted from GD-P, of all places:

[Mist]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6300238

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

1. Ah, you beat me to it

Hope some folks from here go over to put in their two cents on the matter before the skeptics spoil it.

[Cleita]

8. They already have.

But actually, they have a right to object just not a right to impose their beliefs on everyone else. I replied in a noncommittal way without bringing my beliefs into it, just saying that separation of church and state belongs to everyone not just those whose beliefs are the majority like atheists and Christians.

[MorningGlow]

2. I got this SF Gate e-mail alert today--I LOVE Mark Morford

Great column. So I added my $0.02 to the GDP thread (gods help me). Basically, I said that I had my guard up about Obama for a very long time, but he has won me over. And this nation is at one of those crossroads we're aware of regarding the Shift--are we going to choose the path of darkness and business as usual, or are we going to make that leap into the higher spiritual realm by electing Obama? Do we have enough lightworkers at the ready? Have enough people woken up? I don't know the answer, but I've got my fingers and toes crossed.

All I know is I'm going to be sending LOTS of light and good vibes between now and November so we can tip the scales...

On edit: Oh no, I'm getting sucked into the thread's arguments about "deification" and the definition of "lightworker". Somebody stop me before I post again!!

[SocratesInSpirit]

4. I read that thread...

I think you held your own pretty well, and I'm glad someone said something. I have to wonder, why all the hate for "New Age" beliefs? If they inspire one to be a good person, I don't see the problem. Live and let live, you know? But some people seem to get awfully defensive about the subject of belief in general. Maybe they had one too many run-ins with fundies, or something. :) It can be difficult to recover from the trauma suffered at the hands of religious zealots without losing the ability to believe that there's something more out there.

On the subject of the article - I loved it. I can really feel a sense of hope. I just hope America doesn't make a fear-based choice (again!).

[MorningGlow]

5. Thanks, SIS--I appreciate it

It was rough going, I can tell you that--the complete stonewalling was dismaying, to say the least. "New Age crap!" End of story. How can you reason with that?

I don't know where the hate for New Age stuff comes from, except that it's rooted in old-school fear. Whether these nay-sayers know it or not, they're still conditioned by traditional religions who've taught for centuries that New Age stuff is the "work of the devil". Plus there's the fear of the unknown. Add to that the fear of being laughed at if they don't laugh, mock, or sneer first (I found the reference to Shirley MacLaine very telling--the broad assumption that anyone who believes this stuff is wacky), and you've got a recipe for a whole potload o' nastiness.

I loved the article too--Mark Morford ROCKS. I admire his sheer brazenness to talk about this kind of thing without apology.

[BuelahWitch]

6. There is hate here on DU for any kind of belief

Sometimes it gets pretty bad. Perhaps they had bad experiences with religion and thus decided that any and all belief and believers were to be ridiculed. I don't know.

[stellanoir]

3. I think his transcendence of the virtual kitchen sink that was hurled in his general direction

suggests that he's not drawing exclusively from 3-D.

Thank the "Creatrix."

Big cosmic PHEW.

[Hestia]

7. I told my husband a month or so ago that I thought he is a Lightworker

have you read Michelle Obama's speeches - I'll have to find some and let you read them; there was also an article posted in the last couple of days, a women interviewed Obama in 2002-2004 time period and it was on religious belief's of elected officials. If I am remembering correctly, he said that he doesn't believe in hell, that there are many sources to the divine and that we can create heaven here on earth (tucking his daughters in at night and knowing that they are raising kind children is heaven). Stunning to say the least.

I don't know about ya'll, but we've been praying and asking the Dear One's to send a sign, that we know we have to do the work to get us out of all these messes, but we need help in doing so. Please send a sign that we are on the right track, that the Universe does Love us and wants to send us all the blessings they can. I feel that Obama is that emissary. I KNOW that he is just a man with faults just like all of us, that he admits that he makes mistakes like all of us, but admits and tries to correct them. He is not a messiah in any sense of the word, but an Avatar, helping to get us back on track in our evolution on our paths to higher vibrations.

I like this paragraph from the article:

But there simply is no denying that extra kick. As one reader put it to me, in a way, it's not even about Obama, per se. There's a vast amount of positive energy swirling about that's been held back by the armies of BushCo darkness, and this energy has now found a conduit, a lightning rod, is now effortlessly self-organizing around Obama's candidacy. People and emotions and ideas of high and positive vibration are automatically draw to him. It's exactly like how Bush was a magnet for the low vibrational energies of fear and war and oppression and aggression, but, you know, completely reversed. And different. And far, far better.

My deepest repect for him is that he tells Us that We have to make the changes, that We need to stay involved and call and name it when we see it. He needs Our help to be a good President. I like that - this inclusion in his/our process to change politics. It's not his Presidency but Our Presidency. It's up to us to make sure that Congress arises to the high standards that he is trying to set.

Not too shabby eh ;o)

[Cleita]

9. What I think is funny that Ms. Atheist probably doesn't have a clue

that the changes we are witnessing in these elections is due to our sending light and prayers to effect those change. I believe we have a right to do that. I don't think we have a right to directly influence Obama in a non-spiritual way like sending him astrological charts or tarot card readings.