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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 01:12 PM
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So What's the Shadow Gov't Up to in Nevada? (large graphic)
Edited on Wed May-07-08 01:13 PM by NJCher
Article says this is not Mother Nature's style. The graphics are awesome, so click both links:

http://standeyo.com/NEWS/08_Earth_Changes/080502.NV.EQ.grid.html

Couldn't help myself. I am posting this one here:





Cher

p.s. Is there any way they could be trying to trigger a major earthquake on the West Coast so they can interfere with the elections?


edited to add "large graphic" to subject line
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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 01:32 PM
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1. How would an earthquake
Interfere with elections, exactly? Maybe they are testing an electromagnetic weapons system. Or maybe some other country is doing it. I agree it is weird.
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 01:33 PM
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2. Well isn't that pretty
And pretty suspicious.

I don't know if the shadow gov't is messing in time for the elections or if it's just business as usual with them. I wouldn't put anything past them, though.
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Callie McAllie Donating Member (873 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 03:12 PM
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3. nice to know I'm not the only one
paranoid and suspicious enough to think they will interfere with the elections.

How do we know this is not photoshopped or something. Are there any reports from the ground?
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PinkTiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 03:30 PM
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4. I think the paranoia is unfounded.
However, there is something going on under the surface. For a long time now, there has been a watch on seismic activity around the region in Lake Tahoe, Reno and the Mammoth Lakes region, where the Long Valley Caldera will someday explode in a catastrophic eruption. The USGS has a quake map that is quite revealing:
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/
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Callie McAllie Donating Member (873 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 03:51 PM
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5. You can certainly pick out the fault line in CA from that map, huh?
I agree the paranoia is unfounded. I did a little googling to some seismic and volcanic activity sites, and there does appear to be something going on. However, somebody did mention a prediction by Edgar Cayce that involved earthquakes in Nevada, and someone else pointed out that the Alaska oil pipeline runs through there, so who knows what's going on?

My theory is that the earth is self-regulating. The global temperature on the surface is increasing. A big volcanic eruption would spew a bunch of ash into the atmosphere, it would float across the planet, and cool things down, just like pulling out the shade umbrella. I remember first thinking this when Pinatubo erupted halfway round the world; afterward, we had a cool rainy summer because of the ash in the atmosphere.

Of course, I've been wrong before. :D
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 04:13 PM
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6. Don't know what to make of this.
Edited on Wed May-07-08 04:30 PM by Dover
Might try posting it in the Environment/Energy forum and see what others think.
I can't imagine that this sort of thing involving so many 'explosions', could be done covertly, ie. remain unknown by the geological community, the state and others. Surely it would be BIG news in the affected area.
Where did you find this story originally?

On edit: The star pattern of the main swarm you posted may only look like a deliberate pattern because of the way they had to graphically show it (because they were occurring so close together). Each dot in that star pattern is connected by a line which extends to a central place where the swarm happened and there's no way to show each one of them distinctly without overlapping all those dots, so they had to do a 'star pattern'.
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 12:32 PM
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7. Well this is interesting....
Edited on Sat May-10-08 12:57 PM by Dover
I was trying to think of a reason -if these were, in fact, planned explosions - what else they might be doing besides inflicting harm on California, as Cher has suggested. That reasoning didn't seem plausible. However it did seem plausible to me that explosions might be used for releasing pressure along the fault at key points (thus causing these acute, localized 'swarms' of quakes in Oregon, CA and maybe even the one in Ill.). So I googled some of those key words and found this article.
May seem far fetched but this article at least puts it within the realm of possibility:


Israeli startup develops method to predict and prevent earthquakes

2 Jan 2006

Terramoto, an Israeli company, has developed a three-stage method that its founder believes will provide the answers that scientists need to prevent major earthquakes from occurring along known fault lines.

...snip...

To give an accurate prediction of when this quake might occur, two lasers are placed on the different tectonic plates, and the interference pattern they create is measured to evaluate the relative velocity at which the two plates are moving, and in turn the energy accumulation inside the rock.

When a high-magnitude earthquake has been predicted, Terramoto's method calls for explosives to be drilled into the rock to create a series of controlled explosions that will weaken the rock and let the energy accumulated over the years be released gradually in a number of small quakes, rather than one devastating one.

The method can be adapted for fault lines along the ocean, with geophones sunk down to sea level with large cement blocks. Nachman admits that drilling to relieve pressure in these locations is more difficult than on land, but adds that it is not impossible.

The technological development of Terramoto's earthquake detection and prevention system is supported by scientists in the field from both Tel Aviv University and the Hebrew University in Jerusalem. Nachman believes that each system, which includes 6-10 geophones, will cost customers in the region of $1 million....>

http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Israel+beyond+politics/Israeli%20startup%20develops%20method%20to%20predict%20and%20prevent%20earthquakes%202-Jan-2006

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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 01:46 PM
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8. Popular Science 2005: Engineered Earthquakes
Popular Science 2005: Engineered Earthquakes
http://www.popsci.com/military-aviation-space/article/2...

An earthquake is a sudden release of stress that has built up along a fault line, where rock faces push against each other. If that stress could be released over a longer period of time—with a series of smaller quakes—the result might be less catastrophic.

Engineers have known for 40 years that injecting fluids deep into wells can accidentally trigger mini—quakes by lubricating “sticky” rock faces. Since that time, there have been numerous proposals to pump fluids into stressed fault lines. But even if such a proposal could get past the inevitable legal and environmental hurdles, geologists warn that replacing one big earthquake with a swarm of smaller ones might actually be riskier.

William Ellsworth, chief scientist of the U.S. Geological Survey's earthquake hazard team, points out that because earthquake energy multiplies with each point on the Richter scale, it would take roughly 1,000 magnitude—6 quakes to dissipate the energy of a single magnitude—8 quake. Another problem is that many fault lines are not discovered until an earthquake occurs.

Proponents of earthquake engineering argue that induced quakes would be safer than unplanned ones, because local residents and emergency services would have time to prepare for them. But most geologists aren't convinced. Thomas J. Ahrens, a geophysics professor at the California Institute of Technology, cautions that mini quakes “may easily get out of control.”...cont'd
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Callie McAllie Donating Member (873 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 06:52 AM
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11. I find this idea really fascinating
At one of the seismic sites I was looking at, one person wrote about a pattern he had noticed with earthquakes. When there's a quake on one side of a tectonic plate, not long after there will be on one of corresponding size on the other side of the plate. I'm no scientist or seismologist, but in essence these plates are great slabs of rock sliding around on molten lava or something, and if they rub up against something on one side, it makes sense to me that then they might slide a bit the other way and rub up against something on the other side, say first in California, then in Japan. Or something.

Can't help but wonder if we hired Terramoto to ease the pressure in Nevada, successfully, only to have the plate slide the other way and wreak havoc in China.

Probably nonsense, but I always tend to think that all these geologic events are connected somehow. I don't think the earth has too much respect for man-made jurisdictions. She is all one planet.
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 05:59 PM
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9. In the past week or two LBN had a few posts on EQ's
and as I am quite a chicken when it comes to earthquakes, I now have the add-on for Firefox, that someone posted. It gives me real time info on earthquakes around the globe.

There was discussion about a swarm of earthquakes off the coast of Oregon, and it appears the Ring of Fire is very active at this time in general.

Then I get an e-mail from Boxer:

Dear Friend:

The United States Geological Survey (USGS) is America’s earthquake science agency, charged with providing reliable information about where and when earthquakes may occur. The USGS has issued a new report that should be of interest to Californians. The report relates the prediction that California has more than a 99 percent chance of having a magnitude 6.7 or larger earthquake within the next 30 years. Importantly, it also provides clues as to regions more likely to experience a major quake.

The new USGS report on California earthquake probabilities is the result of a model that comprehensively combines a variety of seismic and earth science tools. I invite you to view the summary of the report and the full report, with comprehensive maps.

News about earthquakes should give all of us a greater incentive to be prepared. If you have not created an earthquake preparedness program for your home and work, I encourage you to follow the tips provided by the Federal Emergency Management Agency.

Most Californians accept earthquakes as a part of living in our beautiful state. But knowing more about where they may occur and what to do to prepare should also be a part of living here. I hope this information is helpful to you.

Sincerely,

Barbara Boxer
United States Senator


and here is the link:
http://www.usgs.gov/newsroom/article.asp?ID=1914&from=rss_home


So, I do not think that it involves deliberate human intervention this time, however I would also not be surprised if they are experimenting...
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Callie McAllie Donating Member (873 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 06:53 AM
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12. That's a little scary
Wonder what she knows that we don't?
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 07:25 PM
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10. I've been dreaming about tidal waves lately.
Tidal waves can often follow earthquakes. Having lived with earthquakes all my life, first in Chile and then in California, I have to admit I'm not as afraid of them as I am of wind disasters such as tornadoes and hurricanes. I have survived some pretty strong earthquakes from childhood with my injuries being mostly a big scare and a lot of broken stuff that needed clean up and repair. I have always had a fear of drowning though since early childhood. I wonder if that's where the tidal wave dreams are coming from, my inner fears, or could a past life be in play here.
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