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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 08:06 PM
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An Ice-free Antarctica.....Atlantis?
Edited on Wed Jan-30-08 08:13 PM by Dover



If we compare Athanasius Kircher’s 1665 ancient Egyptian map of Atlantis (right) with a modern map of ice-free Antarctica (below right) the similarity becomes astonishing!

Kircher did not have the benefit of seeing an ice free map of Antarctica. In his time the continent had not even been discovered, let alone explored. Kircher preserved the notion that for the Atlanteans South was at the top of a map. His compass on the map of Atlantis indicates that North is at the bottom of the page rather than the traditional and universally accepted way of representing maps. Because he did not possess a complete globe, Kircher was unable to compare the Egyptian map of Atlantis with a complete globe with South at the top.

The Latin inscription on the top left hand corner of the map of Atlantis translates:

"Site of Atlantis now beneath the sea according to the believes of the Egyptians and the description of Plato."

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http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/atlantida_mu/esp_atlantida_7.htm


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Under-Ice Volcano Eruption Spewed Ash Over Antarctica
Mason Inman
for National Geographic News

January 21, 2008

A rare volcanic eruption punched through Antarctica's ice sheet more than 2,000 years ago, scattering ash across the frozen landscape, a radar survey has revealed.

The eruption was the biggest in Antarctica in the past 10,000 years, researchers estimate.
The volcano's continuous output of heat may still be melting the base of the ice sheet, and could be partially responsible for the fast flow of a nearby glacier.
David Vaughan and Hugh Corr of the British Antarctic Survey, based in Cambridge, England, spotted signs of the eruption using ice-penetrating radar, which revealed a layer of volcanic rock embedded within the ice sheet.

"There would have been a very big bang as the plume of ash and steam broke through the ice," Vaughan said. "Then ash would have begun to rain down on to the ice surface."

As snow fell over the centuries, this ash layer got buried, and is now embedded in the middle of the ice sheet.

Other studies have found indirect evidence of volcanoes under Antarctica, and researchers have tracked volcanoes erupting under the ice in Iceland.

(Related: "Ancient Egypt Cities Leveled by Massive Volcano, Lava Find Suggests" .)
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/04/070402-egypt-volcano.html

But the new study is the first to show direct evidence of a relatively recent eruption from under the Antarctic ice sheet—one that could still be affecting the ice sheet today.

The study appeared January 20 in the journal Nature Geoscience.


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http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/01/080121-antarctica-volcano.html


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Ancient Antarctic Lake Tapped for Study

Unexplored Territory Jan. 28, 2008 -- You won't find Lake Ellsworth in any travel guide. For starters, it's pitch black all the time and completely cut off from Earth's atmosphere. Yet some living things may very well call the subterranean Antarctic lake home.

A hardy, four-man team of scientists is camped out on the ice, trying to get the ancient lake to spill some of its secrets.

Ultimately, researchers would like to send a probe beneath the frozen cap to sample the water. First, however, the team must find suitable drill sites and figure out how to pierce the thick ice without contaminating the pristine lake.

The work will be arduous and expensive, but the potential discoveries have implications for a wide array of pressing issues, including climate change and how to search for life on other planets...>


http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2008/01/28/lake-ellsworth.html

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Quakerfriend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 08:45 PM
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1. Hi Dover
:hi:

Very interesting parallels here!

It would be a bitter sweet discovery, if so.

I will always remember reading "The Romance of Atlantis" by Taylor Caldwell (?), I think. (As a teenager, I was just enthralled by that book!)
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 09:30 PM
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2. Hi Quakerfriend!
:hi: So good to see you!

Yes...bitter sweet.

One of the articles seems to be hinting/suggesting that the melting is generated from below (rather than a manmade event), and has been an ongoing thing. Hmmmm....don't know.

I had a strong interest in reading about Atlantis some time ago, but nothing recent. The interest and research was in response to some vivid dreams about a similar event. They were frightening...the sense that life as I and mankind had known it was actually ending and changing and we'd have to start from scratch.
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 09:53 PM
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3. I love contemplating mysteries.
I hope to someday have the answers. When I cross over to the other side, the first thing that I want to do is go to the "library" that has all of the answers. (Unless we will automatically know the answers when we cross.) Having the answers is what I'm looking forward to after I die.

Thanks for posting this, Dover!

:)

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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 10:12 PM
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4. Makes you wonder, doesn't it?
I've always been fascinated by Atlantis. Never believed the whole Thera theory either--small Greek islands in the Mediterranean just didn't seem to fit the legend.

Several years ago I interviewed a person working at McMurdo Station in Antarctica. When I asked what he and his crew were researching there, he said he couldn't say--that it was top secret. "Atlantis" was the first thought that came to my mind!
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:35 PM
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5. Interesting that Atlantis came to mind.
Edited on Wed Jan-30-08 11:38 PM by Dover
And then there's this possibility:

http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/SecretWar1.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_UFOs

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/nazi_ufo_connection.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lyJKNPU2wE

Hey Dream, I read stuff like this and I think I'll be in that library a looooooooog time!
Maybe several life times! LOL!
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:36 PM
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Wasn't there a scientist, who lost his reputation over it,
who posited that Atlantis had slipped like the skin of an onion down to the south pole from the middle of the Atlantic? I can't remember his name. Also, wasn't this the basis of the Stargate Atlantis series that Atlantis was once on Antartica and slipped through the Stargate to another star system because of a cataclysmic event?

What can I say. I love Sci-Fi and mythology especially when you can combine the two.
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:41 PM
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7. Never heard either of those stories Cleita. If you ever come across it again
please post it.

I never took to Sci-Fi with the exception of Asimov's trilogy, which I loved.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:50 PM
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8. Actually, I think this was on TV on the Discovery channel
maybe. If it pops up again I'll post.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 12:40 AM
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9. Could it have been this man?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Hapgood

In 1958 Hapgood published his first book, The Earth's Shifting Crust. The Foreword to this was written by Albert Einstein, shortly before his death in 1955. In this book, and two successive books, Maps of the Ancient Sea Kings (1966) and The Path of the Pole (1970), Hapgood proposed the radical theory that the Earth's axis has shifted numerous times during geological history. This theory is not widely accepted by orthodox geologists.

Hapgood also became an advocate for alleged medium Elwood D. Babbitt.

Hapgood died as a result of being struck by an automobile.

Hapgood's protege, Rand Flem-Ath, who engaged in an extended correspondence with Hapgood, greatly expanded Hapgood's work and developed his own theories in the 1995 book, When the Sky Fell.

I found it via this trail >

http://www.grahamhancock.com/horizon/antarctica.htm

I AM NOT THE ORIGINATOR OR CREATOR OF THIS THEORY. The full credit for it, as I explained in Chapters 50 and 51 of Fingerprints of the Gods, belongs to the Canadian authors Rand and Rose Flem-Ath who set it out in their book When The Sky Fell (1995) which I was privileged to read in manuscript form in 1993. I believed then, and believe still, that their theory is a ground-breaking one and that it is immensely important to any proper consideration of the possibility that there may have been a lost civilisation. My role vis-à-vis this original and well-thought-out theory was simply that of a reporter and synthesizer, just as I also reported and synthesized the work and theories of many other writers and researchers in Fingerprints of the Gods. Nevertheless despite the fact that I made this clear at the outset, and have continued to make it clear at ever opportunity thereafter when the Atlantis/Antarctica theory has been brought up, there have been numerous occasions in both the print and broadcast media when this theory has been wrongfully credited to me.


http://www.alibris.com/search/books/qwork/7192796/used/When%20the%20Sky%20Fell:%20In%20Search%20of%20Atlantis


When the Sky Fell: In Search of Atlantis

by Rand Flem-Ath, Rose Flem-Ath

About this title: Based on the theories of the late historian Charles Hapgood, ancient sea maps, and the flood myths of ancient cultures, the Flem-Aths propose that Atlantis was destroyed by a violent and sudden shifting of the earth's crust and was located in present-day Antarctica.

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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 12:52 AM
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10. Wow...thanks for finding that Votes! Never heard of Flem-aths or his theory.
Edited on Thu Jan-31-08 01:30 AM by Dover
"...a violent and sudden shifting of the earth's crust.."

I may have to find that book and read what he based this on. It occurs to me that I might have posted something like this in this forum...it rings a bell. I'm gonna check my bookmarks to see if I saved it. If so I'll post it here in a minute.

On edit: Success! This thread was posted by smirkymonkey back in 2005 about earth changes. Post #29 is the one I was thinking about:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=245&topic_id=8266
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 02:07 AM
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11. Thanks, Dover!
I bookmarked it too, and will have to read all of it later.

I first heard of this theory about four or five years ago. It scared me. I continued to research, and felt relieved at the information I eventually found.

The poles shift continuously. My son is a navigator and I talked to him about it. Their maps, and therefore coordinates, are revised at least daily. So a pole shift doesn't necessarily happen all at once. It's actually happening constantly.

Also, regarding the warmth being generated from below, or within .. I have read that there are warm water springs at both poles. Theories of an inner Earth are tied to the warm water flow. It's very encouraging to read there is exploration in this area.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:36 PM
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6. Oops!
Edited on Wed Jan-30-08 11:51 PM by Cleita
Posted twice.
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