I need help.

[purduejake]

Just as a disclaimer, I am just beginning my quest to lead a spiritual life and know very little compared to most people in here. I have been watching this board for a couple of months or so and have learned a lot about energy, etc and have decided to seek alternative medicine for my ailments. I am excited to start the treatment next week.

Anyway, I am a very lucky person and have so many great friends and family who fulfill and support me, but I am just not happy. I've never placed limitations on myself and was sure I could do just about anything I tried. I worked my ass off since I can remember and recently lost everything after a bad car accident. I lost my health and am constantly suffering from headaches, severe back pain, depression, anxiety, etc. I also lost my career before it even started- I graduated from Purdue from the professional flight program but cannot fly due to the injuries.

I have been denied housing twice. Once because I am gay and once after recenly being evicted for arguing with my landlord while paying all of my bills on-time. Even though the court said that my account was totally paid, I was ordered to pay $200 for the landlord's attorney fees plus court costs. It's totally bizzar as was the whole gay issue.

I finally found what seemed to be a job that can support me and offers benefits, but it now looks like I will have to move back with my parents with my $120,000 education just to work at the local grocery store because I cannot obtain housing where I want to live.

Now to the point- Are there such things as curses? I feel as if something is actively working against me and have been in counseling for many years since everything started going to hell. We've determined that it is not something I do and that I need to stop looking inward when stuff goes wrong. Can people be cursed? What can I do to stop this or break a curse? Trust me, I am doing everything I know how to with hard work, but I don't think it's enough. I'd love any thoughts and suggestions on this. I am totally open to anything.

[Me.]

1. IMHO

What you may be dealing with here are life's lessons and depending on what you take out of it/ or make of your experience, may turn the "curse" into a blessing and/or the best thing that ever happened to you. Earth is considered the universe's classroom and we have come here to learn, to grow our spirit. You are blessed with good family and friends so maybe the lack of fulfillment you are experiencing is your spirit's desire to grow. You've been looking into different approaches to your illness. Already that is a change and a reaching beyond your "normal" reality. I would suggest you get your chart done professionally and see what it says, for the signposts there will definitely help. And remember, believe it or not, no one is given more to handle than they can actually bear. All this of course, is IMHO.

[purduejake]

6. You're right.

It helps to be reminded that we aren't given more than we can deal with. I've been through many tough years and I see a lot of positive and growth that occurred during the tough issues. It's impossible for me to see the good in current situations, though. I appreciate your thoughts and help!

[Matariki]

16. IMHO 2

Well, in my experience, curses do actually exist and it certainly sounds like Perduejake is getting an extra dose of bad luck. Sometimes telling a person that their bad luck is a 'life lesson' or 'karma' can be akin to blaming the victim, like telling a rape victim its her 'karma' or something.

I'd suggest getting a reading to see what's up. I can recommend some people who do readings and can possibly help you remove or change your bad luck. They are Vodou initiates, know what they are doing and have a lot of integrity. If you are interested, pm me and I'll give you their contact info.

~k

[ropi]

2. okay

you've had changes and upsets in life--what would you do otherwise? you say your spirituality is growing..what calls to you?

[purduejake]

7. What calls me is a chance for happiness.

Many people in here are very wise and spiritual and they have such great advice. I have been turned off by "regular" religion and am seeking something less judgmental and more positive.

[mrgorth]

3. There may be a curse upon you

but it is doubtful. If you are truly worried you can post on the ancient spirituality board and ask someone to do a removal. What's more likely is that you're going through some rough times and are, as many of us do, focussing on the negative. Good luck with everything.

[purduejake]

8. Whenever I think things are getting better...

something devastating happens - like becoming homeless.

[Matariki]

17. why do you say it's doubtful?

i think you'd have to know the person AND probably do a reading for him to determine if it's doubtful. Or did you mean you doubt there are such things as curses?

[dbt]

4. As far as your headaches and back pains,

have you tried Reiki? If not, seek a practictioner; one treatment and you should know instantly if it's going to work for you. It will also calm you down pretty well.

:hi:

[purduejake]

9. I haven't tried, but will definitely look into it.

I've looked some stuff on the net since you mentioned it and will seek a practitioner. thanks!

[Eloriel]

11. Also acupuncture for pain, etc.

could help. Check it out if it sounds like an interesting idea.

[dbt]

14. D'OH! How could I have forgotten Acupuncture???

If it does nothing else, it may very well bliss you out for a while!

[Nancy Waterman]

5. It is important to know you have chosen your life

Somehow these experiences and difficulties give you the opportunity to develop certain strengths that you need to develop. Some of these sound like you are learning to handle when things are difficult and you don't get what you want. That takes tremendous character, especially in our instant gratification society. All of this is another way of describing the term "karma".

What it also sounds like is that you need to be careful not to get into a "victim" consciousness. That can be a really self defeating way to be. It is more helpful to try and develop that attitude of acceptance. Do what you can to change your situation, visualize specifically what your goals are, but accept the frustrations as gifts to help you get stronger. This "embrace" of the difficulties rather than resisitng them and feeling like their victim, can help shift the whole energy pattern of your life.

[purduejake]

10. Good points.

I am printing out everybody's responses to help me out when I get stuck in difficult times. I love ya all!

[InvisibleTouch]

12. I don't think it's possible for someone else to curse you...

...but it's entirely possible to "curse" yourself, by means of your expectations and your focus. I've heard it said that the thing you really really want, you will probably get - and the thing you really really fear, you will probably get also - because it's always on your mind. And sometimes, bad circumstances just come together - it's pure chance and the only thing you can do is ride it out and wait for things to get better, while you take what positive steps you can. Don't let yourself slip into self-blame.

I just don't believe anyone else has the power to "curse" another person, unless the recipient allows it.

[Desertrose]

13. everyone here has given really good advice & suggestions....

My thoughts are that perhaps all these things/events are simply a way to get you on that "spiritual path". I mean who really pays attention when things are "easy" and going along according to "our" plans?

It sounds like you have certainly had more "challenges" than anyone would ask for or want, but so far you have survived :)...and have turned to sources you weren't aware of before everything "fell apart"......

Please don't blame yourself....for sure no one chooses these things on a conscious level. But I do agree with the Nancy Waterman when she said that we do set certain experiences up for our individual spiritual growth- again certainly not on a conscious level...but the higher aspects of our being/soul do give us certain "options". We can choose to see them as a challenge and learn from it and maybe find a new direction or we can just be a victim and blame everyone else for our "bad luck".

Its hard to rise above the waterline when you feel like you are barely keeping afloat, I know...but when so many doors slam in our face, sometimes the only thing we can change is our perspective. It is as though Spirit wants you to go another direction....I have a feeling you have much to offer the world, probably not in a way you ever "really" thought about before. Someone above suggested you think about what truly calls you now- not the old thought pattern. Start from where you are right now.....


I found this great exercise.....imagine if money or health were no obstacle...how would you create your world, your life?? See it & get detailed and focus on that. Ask for help from your angels, guides, higherself- whatever you are comfortable with. Keep that as your focus....imagine it happening and add as much detail & reality as you can. Do your best NOT to get caught up in the negative and frustration of where you feel you are now...but if you do, look around and find something to be grateful for...friends, family, a roof over your head, a beautiful warm sunny day....don't judge, just embrace it.....

All of this is a tall order when you are in pain,I know that too....but try it..start small and don't judge your efforts...its all good and there is no "wrong"....ask Spirit for help....it is there, trust ....

Please keep us posted on how you are doing with your alternative health treatments. Reiki is good...also Bowen is wonderful,too (www.bowtech.com)

:hug:
DR

[momzno1]

15. things that have worked for me

Abraham Hicks material - talks about how we create our own reality by what we focus on. And Silva Ultramind system. Their meditation and visualization exercises are awesome and I have been going to the Alpha level in meditations now since Christmas and I feel great.
Much more positive than I used to be.
The Abraham stuff especially gives me the awareness that by focusing on what I want to happen "as if it already is here" (which is the important part of it) is CRITICAL. In other words if you say to yourself "I want to feel healthy" or "I want a place to live", then the Universe gives you just that: the WANT of health or the WANT of a place to live - see what I mean? It will always be in the FUTURE...
It's cool stuff, and hard to remember to implement in my life with all my old patterns of thought. So I practice a lot!

Hope any of this might help you.

[pacifictiger]

18. a proverb

A wise Native American Grandfather was discussing good and evil with his young grandson. He tells the boy how we all have two wolves inside of us struggling with each other. The first is the Wolf of peace, love, kindness and goodness. The other Wolf is fear, greed, hatred and evil. "Which wolf will win, Grandfather?" asks the young boy. "Whichever wolf we choose to feed,” replied the Grandfather

[Matariki]

19. About curses

I want to answer this. I know a lot of folks on this forum have a sort of new age slant and that usually translates into things like believing that you can't be cursed unless you believe it or allow it or that it is somehow 'karma'.

My experience has shown me that that is simply not true. For instance, a curse can be more effective if the person does *not* know about it - that way they are less likely to protect themselves or seek to remove it once it starts effecting them.

I recently helped a friend who got cursed when he was studying in Morocco. Some old woman uttered a nasty curse on him. He didn't do anything to deserve it except not buy a rug from her - and perhaps because he was american. Well he doesn't believe in that sort of stuff and he laughed it off, but his girlfriend became alarmed at how much he was changing, getting depressed and hopeless for no apparent reason, losing his job and so on. I did a reading for him and there was definitely something nasty going on, so my partner and I did a ritual for him and it (the curse) tried to jump into my partner. It's a long story really.

And I have other long stories of first hand experience with curses and demonic forces that were well enough verified to lead me to certainty that they are real.

When I got married many years ago some jealous third party purchased a curse to put on us (yeah, there are people who will sell curses). We were having sex one night shortly after we were married and I looked up and saw this thing, completely black, sunken features and long, long fingers. It was coming towards the bed with it's finger pointing. Now when I say I saw it, i mean with my astral vision - but clearly and in great detail. Now what I should have done is got up and banished it but you see, I just got married to this guy and how would it look if just when he was about to come, I jumped up and started drawing pentagrams and chanting stuff. He'd be sure he married a nut job. So instead I tried putting white light around us but the thing just kept coming - and just as my guy came, this thing put it's finger on his back. Now, for the same reason I didn't jump up and banish the thing, I also DIDN'T SAY A WORD to my husband about what I saw. We were asleep for about a half hour when he woke up screaming and grasping for air. He told me he dreamed that this black creature with really long fingers was shoving a finger down his throat and suffocating him!!! (After 20+ years I still get goosebumps telling this).

In the subsequent weeks our house got *real* weird. My husband got these two spots on his penis and his genitals started smelling like rotten fish. He went to three doctors and none of them knew what it was. Whenever couples came over to our house (and this included us) they would get into horrible fights like they never, ever did. Couples who would normally only get in civil disagreements would end up screaming at the top of their lungs at each other in front of our house.

And I'll tell you - WE DIDN'T DESERVE IT. We didn't do anything to the jealous person who cursed us, it wasn't our bad 'karma' and if it was a life lesson, it was the one where I really learned to trust my vision and that the invisible realm is a real thing. And it's not all white light and unicorns.

Oh yeah, once I cursed my fundie, sexist, step brother-in-law to have only girl children. After girl number SEVEN I realized he wasn't going to stop until he got that freaking boy he so desperately wanted (boys being better in his opinion). So I took the curse off and he had his boy, who if I'm not mistaken should grow up to be gay. He was never the wiser about it being a curse. Did he deserve it? I thought so - and I hope it was a good life lesson for him too. One where he gets some respect for women (and gays).