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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 12:52 AM
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The "'new' Daily Psychic" thread:
Okay, since we've had some interest, I thought I would post a whole new discussion thread for it.

So far, we've had impressions about a "disaster" happening later in 2007, (April 11th, perhaps?) more war in Iraq, Fitzgerald's redemption, other stuff. I'll add that I...don't see an end to the war in Iraq until at least the end of this year, and that I feel Fitzgerald isn't done. Not sure we'll be getting much more news about that for a while, though.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 01:38 AM
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1. Thanks, BlueIris.
I'm too tired to get any impressions right now, but I'm grateful that you started this thread.
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 09:29 AM
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2. Now *this* is hella weird:
Edited on Thu Jan-25-07 09:30 AM by BlueIris
I've been thinking about James Jesus Angleton all month, with no idea why. Just pulled this from GD:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x35317

Maybe Angleton Sr.'s life will be discussed somewhere significant in the near future?
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 03:16 PM
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3. Thanks for starting this thread, BlueIris!
I rarely get psychic impressions of any sort, but if I do, I'll let ya know!
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 05:57 PM
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4. Fitz
Edited on Thu Jan-25-07 06:04 PM by cassiepriam
His behind the scenes work has been tremendous and very damaging to Bush Co. No one could see what he was doing and how the WH was scrambling and infighting. But it will all come out, and in fact is beginning to.

Fitz has just begun his public work in regards to Libby et al. And it will be very damaging as well.

Edit to add : Fitz is quite psychic and that is one of the reasons he is so formidable. He tends to be one step ahead of the crooks he is pursuing on any given case. And he has an internal truth meter, so he knows right away when they are lying. He also knows immediately when he is being played and/or set up. He knews exactly what is going on, like he did with Rove at the last grand jury hearing.

He is also like Cindy Sheehan in one regard. They don't care at all what anybody thinks about what they are doing. They are immune to the politics and pressure from various sources. They keep an eye on the ball and don't waver. Oh and like Cindy he has much will and courage.
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 02:47 AM
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18. Fitz is psychic?
That is groovy tunes. Hopefully, he'll pick up on our good vibes for him, then.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 07:34 AM
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21. Oh very psychic, look at his natal chart and how good he is at his job.
He has a grand water trine with kite.
A Hades moon (moon opp Pluto) conjunct his North Node.
South node in Pisces, was a mystic and priest in many past lives.
Neptune contacts to Venus, merc.
Nep on an angle.

This life he came back to be of service and in a bureaucratic
governmental type way.

Let see if I can explain about Fitz, I have spent some time looking at his chart over the years, so I feel like I know him.

He appreciates prayer a great deal and welcomes that. But he doesn't care about positive or negative opinion, and he could care less what any one thinks of him. He is merely doing his job. And doing the right thing and that is all he really needs. In past lives he allowed others to sway him, and got side tracked with power and fame. In this life he is not to do that again. It is about the job, and doing it the right way and for the higher good.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 04:08 PM
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31. Hey cass
Could you PM me his data if you have it. Gotta luv this guy. He is our "David" for sure.
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 09:11 PM
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36. I remember the discussion here about him
I guess it's popcorn time for us.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 06:27 PM
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50. Oh the first week was a corker. All the dirt dug up by Fitz ......
An asst to Cheney insisted that she distinctly remembers telling
Libby and Cheney about Plame, weeks before Libby testified to knowing about it.

And then a CIA official testified that he briefed Libby and Cheney and told them both that revealing the Plame name would result in the killing and torturing of CIA agents. Very dangerous.

The testimony could not have been more damaging to Libby and Cheney. And this was only the first week.

Remind me never to get on the bad side of Fitz.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 06:45 PM
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51. Thanks for the update!
Keep us informed, if you don't mind.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 06:55 PM
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52. Rove was just subpoenaed to testify at the Libby trial!
This is getting more and more interesting.

I will try to explain what I can.
It is very complicated and I only gave you the highlights.

If you get a chance to read H20 man on GD, he is the DU expert on the Libby trial. He has been following it very closely for some time. He is also very patient and has answered all my endless questions about the trial. He also agreed, at my request, to post a weekly summary, so busy folks can keep abreast of the trial. But I will be happy to post the snippets I think are most interesting here.

BTW h20 man hosts one heck of a St Paddy's Day thread here on DU, a party all day long with Irish poems, memories, songs, quotes, family stories. You name it. I cried the whole day last year reading it :)
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 06:18 PM
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5. Iraq
I do not see Bush Co changing their minds about the war or doing anything differently.

They are very angry and very resolute. Bush believes in what he is doing, he is psychotic and delusional and drunk most of the time. Cheney is just a liar. They both suffer from dementia related to health problems.

Things will get much worse in Iraq and will be bad for quite some time. Even if there is a pull out.

The mideast powers continue to manipulate Bush and the west.
There is a great deal going on that America knows nothing about, and to a large extent it has been very easy for them to manipulate BushCo. All they had to do was appeal to Bush's ego and greed.

Republican politicians behind the scenes have tried to apply pressure on the White House but have been threatened and punished by a vindicative president.

There is something odd going on with the Dems in the Congress, I can feel the behind the scenes hubbub but cannot get a handle on what it is yet. Something unusual, I don't know if any one else is picking this up.

Also repugs very much are hoping for Hillary and or Obama to get the nomination. The swift boaters are ready to shoot them down with the most unimaginable filth and garbage. Hillary and Obama will both be sunk rapidly. The Dems are being played like fiddles right now.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 07:37 PM
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7. cassie, regarding your last paragraph, re: Hillary and Obama,
I was just watchng Hardball. CM was interviewing someone from the Las Vegas news paper, and they were mostly talking about John Edwards.

I had a somewhat metaphorical vision of Edwards surging ahead as Hillary and Obama fall by the wayside. I'm not sure if there's much to it, but it was a very clear vision.
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 09:43 PM
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9. I almost never have dreams that I remember, but a few nights ago...
I had a dream that John Edwards and I were married, and we had come to the conclusion that we no longer loved each other.

That was basically the crux of the dream, but there was more detail.

I don't know what that was about!

I think that John Edwards is a nice enough man and I think that there are far worse people that we could have as our candidate, so this dream left me a little confused. My feelings about him haven't really changed since the 2004 election.

:shrug:
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 10:04 PM
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10. Interesting dream.
Makes me wonder if there's a part of you that is now disenchanted with him (not implying that "enchanted" is how you feel about him, btw).
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 02:33 PM
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30. Yes, you are having some second thoughts about Edwards?
But hey listen, he is handsome, he is rich, he may
be President one day. Stay married to him :)
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 10:32 PM
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12. That certainly may be possible.
I hope that the Dems can work it all out, without the interference that is now coming from the repugs!

Don't get me wrong, I love Obama. When I saw him at the Dem
convention, chills went up and down my spine. I knew I was looking at a man who most likely would one day be President of the United States.

But I do feel that the time is not right for him now for a number of reasons. He is too young and inexperienced. And right now we face the crisis of our lives, we need the most seasoned experience people we can get. Even then, with the financial, political, legal problems, Iraq and global warming it is still not looking good for the immediate future of our country.

You would think that even the crazy, narcissistic and sociopathic repugs would understand that and try to pull together for the sake of the country. Put aside their lust for power and money and do the right thing for just awhile.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 11:23 PM
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14. Al Gore and
Did you read that Cindy S. will be supporting Dennis Kucinich?
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 11:34 PM
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16. No I had not heard that about Cindy S and Dennis K.
He is from Ohio and we call him Dennis the Menace in a nice way,
he knows how to shake up the system. I love him, he is one smart guy,
always ahead of his time. He is the speaker of truth. He and Bill Moyers should
be elected to be the conscience of a nation which doesn't seem to have one.
Oh and Cindy S too, she is really a lot like Dennis K.

I don't see Dennis getting very far nationally for a presidential run. I hope there is a role for him somewhere. Usually people who are ahead of their time and put their necks out, have to hand the day to day ops to someone else. Like Aquarians vs Capricorns.

We should be so lucky as to have Gore run again. He would be perfect for the job of course. But he was elected once and we let him get trashed to the curb.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 10:18 PM
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39. Do you have a chart
for Dennis?
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 06:35 AM
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45. No I don't, I would like to look at it however...
Would be very interesting.

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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 08:13 PM
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58. Here it is. Kucinich chart.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 08:17 PM
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59. And?
Sorry, I can't read charts. But thanks! What else? If you don't mind.
(I'll put it in my astro.com files.)
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 08:59 PM
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62. Oh have not looked at it. Maybe Dream or someone will tackle it?? :)
I hate to hog things all the time.
Besides I want all the students from the tutorial to practice.

(Hint: he has an aspect that we have talked about a great deal :)
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-28-07 01:35 AM
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73. I would if I could.
I'm not in the tutor class :blush: My studies are in a different direction these days.
But I love reading what the astrologers write.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 09:30 PM
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8. I sincerely hope that
the dems running in the primaries do not neglect their elected duties, do show up for votes, and don't forget we have to start NOW to reverse damage. Hello Ms. Hillary?
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 10:35 PM
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13. I am certainly hoping all of them remember why we voted for them.
And fawning and clapping for * and his ridiculous speeches
are not why I voted for them and pay their salaries!
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 04:17 PM
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32. The Dems are being tempted by greed and being made offers.
Edited on Fri Jan-26-07 04:23 PM by stellanoir
The war mongerig powers that be cannot line their pockets enough. Their greed and sadism knows no bounds.

Some spiritualists insist that we need to send boatloads of energy to our representatives (especially the freshman ones) so they remain ethical.

Can't stand how Hillary is being shoved down our throats by the media.

Though I long for female leadership. The thought of a woman arriving at that position through doing a poor imitation of a hawkish male is sickening

I want *co to resign and let a sensible woman like Pelosi take over.

That's my fantasy and I'm sticking to it. Silly me.

Yes I am a deluded optimist.

Jury's still out on Obama but so far so good. He's fairly quick on his feet in response to smears though.

I feel his inexperience is an asset not a detriment and given *'s pre presidential failures, that argument doesn't really wash for me.

The energies available now require a visionary not one pre corrupted by politics as usual. IMHO

Interesting discussion.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 04:44 PM
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35. Yes something like that is going on with the dems.
Not exactly what we had hoped, but let's just hope
it is only temporary, more "settling in" and adjusting to their new power than a real problem.
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 09:23 PM
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37. I think you are right
it is dangerous times...the temptation of the infamous "apple" :evilgrin:

I also have major problems with Mrs. C.

Noetic Sciences, posts an interview of Kucinich - so he probably is a visionary, too. However I am afraid he has no chance.

and Bill Richardson for obstruction of the recount in 2004 may be one of the first victims of the apple...
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 06:34 AM
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44. People who are too far ahead of their time have trouble being
accepted by the populace and tend to be scapegoats.

Yes temptations abound everywhere.
And Bushco controls others by seduction or punishment.
Kiss or kicks everyone into compliance.
And the only seduction they know involves money and power.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 07:03 PM
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6. dupe sorry
Edited on Thu Jan-25-07 07:03 PM by cassiepriam
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 10:12 PM
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11. Cute cartoon and I am practicing posting images, sorry
but I am hoping that someday I can actually get natal charts on this forum without having to scream for Dream to help me. (I confess Dream is tutoring me on pasting pics to the forum)




Yippee, I did it, MANY THANKS DREAM!!
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 11:26 PM
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15. congrats!
I was thinking recently how much fun it is to use DU. The people are awesome, of course. But technically, it is just a lot of fun.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 11:45 PM
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17. And I love this cartoon too......but can I get a halo on ebay too?
Cracks me up every time I look at it.

Now if I can ever post a natal chart I will be happy!

Dream has been patiently working with me to get it all sorted out.
Poor Dream :(

Several psychics have told me I am in training on Earth for some position
that will be a promotion of sorts on the other side. (Funny I have always known that but was shocked to hear others say it.)

But I tell you, I am not doing anything without Dream nearby and some of the folks on this forum. Actually the whole gang of you better be near by :)
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 03:11 AM
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19. Hee. That's what I'm starting to wonder about our forum members:
Edited on Fri Jan-26-07 03:15 AM by BlueIris
will we be together on the Other Side? Doing what? Is that why we've come together on Earth now? Since cassie's post has given me such a nice segue, here is a tarot card I found not that long ago that makes me think of our group here (I pray that the image is visible, since I'm still Photobucket-challenged):

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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 07:20 AM
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20. Some of us have wondered the same thing back channel....
What the connection is/was/will be.

What a lovely card.

OK I have to start learning Tarot!

A good friend gave me the most beautiful set of Tarot cards and a have about 4 unread Tarot instruction books. I am all set. It just never seemed quite the right time to open the Tarot cards. They sit there staring at me every day on a little shelf in my bedroom.

I think I don't have the courage to do it?

I have done everything else with no problem. Astrology, karmic work, reiki, psychic skills, crystals, but I think I am a little intimidated about Tarot for some reason.
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 07:53 AM
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22. The archetypes are asking you to let them out
they want to play with you and tell you the secrets of the universe. Don't let them intimidate you, they like you!:hug:
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 08:41 AM
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23. I just keep looking at them, there seems to be a lot of power
in that little package.........
and it is all wrapped up and packaged, nicely contained right now.

Also, I cannot decide if I should read some of the books first,
or just open the deck of cards first.

My birthday is coming up next month, I am thinking I will open the cards then?
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 11:40 PM
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40. Maybe you just need
a little ritual. You can google for hints. Some readers 'dedicate' a deck, to serve the Higest Purpose. You can find a special piece of fabric and ribbon to wrap them. I lucked into neat little wooden cigar boxes several years ago. You don't have to read them yet. Just get to know them a little O8)
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 06:29 AM
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43. That is a great idea vote,
I think the person who gave them to me dedicated them
but I will do it as well. And I am going to move them to
have them sit with my crystals on my altar. Next to Quan Yin
and the Blessed Mother. I have some ribbon and crystal jewelry
I can wrap them in.

I make crystal necklaces and bracelets, and I let Mary and Quan Yin wear them on my altar. Will let my Tarot cards wear some too!
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 03:07 PM
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48. WTG Cassie
Great idea! (does your jewelry have a website?)

My exposure to Tarot was 20+ years ago when I went to a club with a friend who had a reading done. She said the reader was a shriveled up old woman, who was that way due to the *implied* evil forces associated with reading. Egads! I wasn't interested. After about 10 years, my ideas had changed (thankfully!). So when I met a new friend who knows astrology and Tarot, I started playing around with his mother's old cards. When I went to Long Beach in 2001, I HAD to buy my own deck. It was just the perfect thing to do. The Thoth deck, from what I understand, is quite weighty. I read a few books, each more intense. I've given away most of them but retain, "Tarot and the Journey of the Hero", "Tarot for the Healing Heart", "The Mythic Tarot" and workbook (I have that deck). I've also given away several decks. You can see mythos appeals to me.

Here's a review of the deck you have (lovely):
http://www.aeclectic.net/tarot/cards/aleister-crowley-thoth/review.shtml

Where do you sell your jewelry?
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 06:18 PM
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49. very interesting
What a great review!

Why do the troth cards have a bad rap?

And the author of the review expresses my feelings exactly about
the power of the cards intimidating her at first, took her a while
to get them. Very interesting.

But they sound perfect for me, the astrology and spirituality parts are right up my alley. (my friend is correct as usual :)

I do not sell my jewelry, it is just a hobby! I make spiritual jewelry. For meditation, for prosperity, for clearing bad energy at home and work, for grounding etc. That kind of thing. Make it for friends according to their natal charts or what they want or I think they need!

And of course for myself to wear and my dear statues on my altar!
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 07:30 PM
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53. Now I'm getting interested in that deck
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thoth_Tarot

The reviews talk about the 'dark' conotation that Crowley has. And, as you mention, the complexity might put some off. But, before I looked, I think I had it confused with another deck.

From the wikipedia article:
Rider-Waite card Thoth equivalent
I: The Magician I: The Magus
II: The High Priestess II: The Priestess
VIII: Strength XI: Lust
XI: Justice VIII: Adjustment
X: Wheel of Fortune X: Fortune
XIV: Temperance XIV: Art
XX: Judgement XX: The Æon
XXI: The World XXI: The Universe

Very interesting.

What a great hobby!
I really didn't mean to hijack this thread. Love talking Tarot.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 07:40 PM
Response to Reply #53
54. Oh I am the Highjack Queen, blame me :( or Stella, she actually holds the crown!
Edited on Sat Jan-27-07 07:41 PM by cassiepriam
(see Stella, just as I said, paybacks are hell :( )

And Tarot is psychic isn't it?
I guess it is kind of related to the thread topic. :(
Sorry!

Anyway the deck I have is:

Aleister Crowley
THOTH Tarot Deck
Designed by Crowley
Painted by Lady Freida Harris
by US games systems
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-28-07 02:49 AM
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75. LOL
If gaining an ill gotten crown for hijacking a "Delete" thread is really your idea of a vicious payback I'm starting to truly question your Mars placement. LOL

:hi:

Crowley is an unusually sticky wicket as were many members of the Golden Dawn. They were interestingly most active during the Neptune/Pluto conjunction in Gemini at the beginning of th 20th century. They all appear to have been total characters but there is consistently some cerebral quirks that were predictably far more about head than heart.

Yup he knew a whole lot and I know plenty of people who I respect enormously who use his deck exclusively and have for years and would never use any other.

Yet turning people temporarily into stone and cocktail parties is very bad form IMHO and not an especially wondrous example of uplifting or redemptive magic or spirituality. That sort of stuff makes us all look as though we just play idle parlor games.

Still, I remember coming out of my existentialist phase, where I only wore black silk vintage dresses and shit kickers a quarter of a century ago and knowing all these people that got deeply into Crowley and Zeppelin. They would oddly invariably disappear for a few years and then return, only to seem extremely bewildered.

I've just always been concerned about his primary agenda and have harbored an uncanny revulsion to him for some inexplicable reason. Maybe it's due to something trivial. Maybe it's something more. Not sure.

But that is not to say his works don't have power or offer tremendous insight for others.

I hope and pray they will for you but I'll happily acquire a "gummy bear deck" or perhaps a Tarot of Baseball if you'd like something a bit lighter. :)

No seriously, I probably have about 30 decks. I've pretty much used the multi ethnic and somewhat obtuse "Wheel of Change" deck for many. many, years. Though for close friends and myself I use a really wild deck I was gifted with by a surrogate adopted baby sister. She funnily found it at a Roman flea market. It looks like a repro from Victorian times but is Italian.
Most of the cards do not correlate with traditional Tarot cards. However some do. It's really a cool deck.

There are probably tens of thousands of decks out there at this point. I always joke that anyone who has any graphic skills whatsoever who then has a spiritual awakening will believe that it's their divine purpose to create a new Tarot deck. Perhaps it would be ideal if we all created our own but alas, not all of us are graphic artists.

Last night pseudo beau was jokingly suggesting that I craft a "Perot Tarot" . I joked back that one could probably base it upon his funny expressions exclusively. He then said that he had worked with a company that was affiliated with one of Perot's companies in the late 80's and could provide me with innumerable quotations. Oh joy. Now there's an offer a girl can't refuse.
/sarcasm

Ahhh somehow, I don't think that such an effort is truly aligned with my soul's purpose, but we had a good laugh, especially since I had just told him that though I am sitting on over 5000 pages of spiritual and reasonably crafted writing that I don't know how to market, all I want to promote is "Ooga, Booga, Smooga, Wooga" (aka total gibberish.)

Look, most folks start with a version of Rider/Waite and then branch out from there. But whatever one is really drawn to often works.

I've been doing card readings for decades but have never read a single Tarot Book. Though I did study (Jungian) symbolism, numerology, and astrology for many years before endeavoring to do so.

Like dream interpretation books, many times we as individuals, hold different associations with certain symbols, whilst others are more universal.

Again, it like astrology, is an experiential art, and not a science.

I like to describe the Tarot as flashcards from the underworld (aka unconscious.)

So anything goes. You just have to determine which representations work best and really resonate for you.

Good luck with it and if I can help in any way you know I will.

It's just that I was hung up in Russia when Crowley was around. And he didn't make Rasputin any more warm and cozy.

Yikes.


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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-28-07 09:21 AM
Response to Reply #75
77. I have to go easy with that placement,
or when I am finished no one lives to see the dawn :(.

Many thanks for the tarot info. Very interesting about Crowly. Now I am intrigued.

The way I am wired I have to get into the science of any endeavor first.
All left brain. Then when I have mastered that, I can let go and the right
brain kicks in. But right brain works best when it has data to hang onto
and work with. And I am very visual, do great with visual stimuli. Kicks in my right brain big time.

But may have to get gummy bears or Hello Kitty. Agh, no sports please.

I am going to have to read the books first. I cannot go in cold I decided.

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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-28-07 03:23 PM
Response to Reply #77
86. I did a bit of noodling
around after becoming interested in your deck. When I order it, and I will, based on the reviews on aeclectic.net, I will get this book > (amazon link) http://tinyurl.com/yrmh67
"Understanding Aleister Crowley's Thoth Tarot". Just reading the excerpt on amazon changed my view of Crowley. I might even get Crowley's own book on the deck.

I'm really glad you brought this up.

I'm the same when it comes to processing and expressing information. I need a lot of left brain food, and then the creativity takes care of itself. I was in a lovely pottery store last week, and just the visuals of all the artwork got my creative juices flowing.

I would ixna the gummy bears or hello kitty. Those are for kids! ;) After reading about Thoth, I am convinced you will do more than fine. I believe it will open up a brand new horizon for you.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-28-07 06:59 PM
Response to Reply #86
91. I just bought gummy bear vitamins, they are the kind I take :)
I thought tarot cards to match would be nice.

Actually I am looking forward to the Crowley cards.
Sounds very interesting......... we shall see how I do......
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 07:49 PM
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55. Here is a picture of the deck
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 08:00 PM
Response to Reply #55
56. If I got that deck
it might teach me more about astrology! I don't know much about the Golden Dawn.
Actually, they are psychic, aren't they? Tarot absolutely has a way of reaching into alll levels of consciousness.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 08:09 PM
Response to Reply #56
57. That is why my friend thought I would like this deck
as it is very astrology and spiritually oriented.

I know nothing about the golden dawn :(
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 08:25 PM
Response to Reply #57
60. You don't need to!
He put the teachings in the deck! At least that's my understanding.

You're getting pretty good at that photobucket stuff.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 09:01 PM
Response to Reply #60
64. Great. Oh and I had a good photobucket teacher. Thanks Dream.
She is really going to regret this, I have posted three pictures in about 15 minutes. I will drive everyone insane fast :(.
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davsand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 04:37 PM
Response to Reply #23
101. Make your own book, Cassie
Seriously. Get a notebook and then go thru your deck a card at a time. Write down what each card makes you feel and what you think about it. Later, as you get to the point that you are looking at the "traditional" meanings associated with the cards you may find that what you felt was more accurate for you.

I'd suggest (and this may be whimsy on my part) that you put that deck in your pillowcase and sleep with it for a while before you try a reading with it. Probably sounds odd, but "breaking in" a deck does take some time, I think. There is a lot of stuff out there that declares you have to _____ (insert some mystical thing here) with any deck in order to protect it. I've seen it run the gamut from wrapping it in silk to keeping it bound by chains of gold. Frankly, I keep some of my decks in my bedside table and more often than not they are still stored in the boxes they came in. Other decks are hanging out on bookshelves or on tables.

I love the artwork in the Tarot cards and it never ceases to amaze me how beautiful it can be. Some folks really LOVE the Motherpeace deck (--it is ROUND!) and they will never read with anything else. Others are in love with different decks for whatever reason. I have maybe three or four decks that I use most often. Probably the one I reach for first is my Aquarian Deck. It is very Art Deco and the colors just turn me on for some reason.


Your feelings may vary and that is OK!

Good luck with this new beginning--it is very exciting and heady stuff! I've been learning about Tarot cards for over 25 years and I still have a long way to go!



Laura

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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 01:00 PM
Response to Reply #20
25. Maybe you need these cards.
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 01:04 PM
Response to Reply #25
26. This is another deck she might like
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 02:14 PM
Response to Reply #26
28.  LOL how pretty. Japanese flavor. I had no idea there were
so many kinds of Tarot cards.

Yes maybe I am not ready for the grown up cards :(

The ones my friend gave me are very powerful.

Can you blow up the world or anything with Tarot cards
by accident? :)
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 11:41 PM
Response to Reply #28
42. What deck is it? n/t
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 06:39 AM
Response to Reply #42
46. Crowley's Troth Deck
From the cover it looks like the cards will be very beautiful.
The energy coming from them is very good, but powerful.

My friend thinks I am ready for prime time. :(

I should have started with Hello Kitty and Gummy Bears.
The tarot version of a training bra. :)

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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 02:07 PM
Response to Reply #25
27. This cracked me up. I was totally not expecting Gummy Bear Cards
Edited on Fri Jan-26-07 02:08 PM by cassiepriam
(And no Stella it doesn't hurt :))

Actually Dream, don't laugh. Maybe that is what I need to do,
get Gummy Bear cards, they won't seem so formidable. Then work
my way up to the big time :(

And heck no, nothing is sacred around here that I have noticed! :)

Edited to add: I do take Gummy Bear Vitamins, it is the only vitamin that doesn't make me sick!
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 09:34 PM
Response to Reply #19
38. Do you remember the Journey of Souls discussion?
Edited on Fri Jan-26-07 09:34 PM by rumpel
I always felt, that this forum is perhaps a representation of what we do as a group or nearby groups in LBL? Perhaps we belong to the same class and/or some are our counselors?
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 06:41 AM
Response to Reply #38
47. Yes. That is the feeling I have too Rumpel.
Some sort of parallel experience.

Do you get any more about that?
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 08:49 PM
Response to Reply #47
61. the sense of home
Edited on Sat Jan-27-07 08:56 PM by rumpel
the study groups, independent study and later discussions with all about discoveries, interaction with other groups and helpers (as on DU) albeit not on the same plane as this forum, and counselors all over the internet - everything and everyone is accessible at once as in LBL - in light energy form. It all feels way too familiar.
This group feels more like an inner group of a larger group and while we belong to many groups at the same time - I don't know, maybe it's closer to "home" in the level of work undertaken by all here independently as well as together. - a direct connection perhaps, even though somewhat fuzzy, to that realm and existence.

I dreamt once of "blobs" of bright energies - but each one of them were beings. We were chatting, as if I went home, it felt home, it felt soooo good - good laughs, and I woke up feeling so great. I never experienced that feeling before and since. I was convinced at the time, that I must have snuck back into that realm - sort of cheating...:)
but it was very reassuring that the experience here is not all there is to it.

to add; perhaps we are to re-member and work on all the levels to aid the 3-D level as a whole...:shrug:
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 09:06 PM
Response to Reply #61
66. Yes I feel the energy you describe, very much so.
Yes and I get the 3D feeling as well.
Working on a number of planes at the same time.
Weird feeling at times, but a good one....
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-28-07 01:23 AM
Response to Reply #66
70. I agree..
and if this sense is what it is, it's really exiting....
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-28-07 09:22 AM
Response to Reply #70
78. Mind blowing if true.............
No wonder we are tired all the time.
Working on too many levels!

There has to be a Heavenly Spa somewhere....
hot tub, etc.... That is where you will find me :)
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 01:33 AM
Response to Reply #78
93. the crystal shower
:)
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-28-07 03:11 AM
Response to Reply #66
76. OMG
When I post my GD prayers, I feel the most amazingly unusual energy. I'm nearly entirely disconnected from three D.

The repercussions are exponential on the collective level. It is as though I'm just floating and flirting with higher energies for a while, immersed in both the collective and higher forces.

Then it stops and I wonder what would happen if I really ever personally grounded that energy into real life. That gives me great pause and I do treasure my anonymity so. Consternation invariably follows. hmmm

The effect of these efforts is in some regards, completely immeasurable. Yet when that energy strikes, it's all consuming and feels so compelling, that I can't resist.

Have to figure out how to strike a balance some day I guess. Maybe I will.

Continually wafting between 12th and 1st and 3rd and 8th house energies is quite the wild ride. Yikes again.

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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 02:11 AM
Response to Reply #76
94. that is exactly that realm,
the existence is supended somewhere in space - and it feels mighty good to connect to other energies :)

I feel this energy on a 3D level with animals, too btw

stand-by:
as a pre-schooler I have to look up the 3rd...perhaps also 8th.....

Ah! 8th, yes.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 02:16 AM
Response to Reply #76
95. Your energy is raising
the consciousness of the physical and spiritual Universes, and all living things.
Keep it up, please. Don't fight it.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-28-07 01:49 AM
Response to Reply #61
74. What exactly is LBL?
As mentioned elsewhere, I have been listening to David Hawkins. A few weeks ago I went with a friend to A Course in Miracles group. I found it too slow paced for my taste. But they also talk about Hawkins and use his books. That friend gave me the cd set.

Anyway, I like what he says about Enlightenment, or the Raising of Consciousness. He tells his audience that just by hearing him discuss consciousness, theirs is raised, and that of the whole of the planet. He uses quantum mechanics, etc., put into a spiritual perspective. I love it when they do that :D When any of us, you and I, practice the art of spiritual growth, all of mankind benefits, to one degree or another. The Unity Field. He also uses kineseology to calibrate people, events, items, and so on.

In this forum, I definitely feel that all our intentions to grow spiritually are nourished.

But I don't know what LBL is.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-28-07 09:26 AM
Response to Reply #74
79. Lives Between Lives
Refers to the work we do in between incarnations in the spirit world.

Where we do our life review, meet with our spirit guides, Ascended Masters and make our soul plans for the next incarnation.

And do whatever work we need to do in the spirit world.

Michael Newton PhD writes extensively about this plane, and does LBL regressions.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-28-07 03:35 PM
Response to Reply #79
87. Oh so LBL
would fall into that category for which there is no verifiable answer. I don't mind speculating, but this is one area I will not codify for myself.

Abraham Hicks says our purpose is to experience Joy. Others I read say the purpose of life is spiritual growth, which seems obviously would lead to Joy. I'm working on that premise.

Before I had ever heard these, at least consciously, a past life regression seemed to leave me with one, what I believed to be, pale conclusion. Find and experience more Joy! I started a development workbook. One exercise had the student write their own definition for positive words. The first three I wrote contained "joy" as part of the definition.

If there was an LBL meeting, they surely told me to go seek Joy.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-28-07 06:46 PM
Response to Reply #87
90. Correct, not verifiable in the strict scientific sense. But if you ever get
a chance to read Newton's work, his evidence is very compelling.
He has done thousands of in between life regressions and the results
are astonishing. Actually his book is the one that made me start
believing that there is much more around us than we currently know.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-28-07 10:46 PM
Response to Reply #90
92. I'll read the excerpt
on amazon. There is certainly more than we currently know, no doubt about that.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 06:57 AM
Response to Reply #92
99. The name of the book is [b] Journey of Souls.[/b]
by Michael Newton. His next one was Destiny of Souls.
And he also has a professional manual for those interested
in doing LBL work.

Newton is like Brian Weiss, MD. Newton is a psychologist,
Weiss is a psychiatrist and they both were just doing routine
clinical hypnosis in their practices and they stumbled upon
all this past life and in between life material coming up over
and over again. They were highly skeptical at first, but they went
with it for awhile and at some point could no longer deny the validity.

Brian Weiss wrote MANY LIVES MANY MASTERS.
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 02:32 AM
Response to Reply #90
96. for me Newton was profound
I was actually researching scientific material on a story I wanted to develop, because of my own experiences. So I collected tons of scientific consciousness research material, then I found "The Inifinite Mind", by Valerie Hunt, PhD, and I moved on to Newton's books.
The fascinating thing about Newton is that he himself had not set out to compile the data as he ended up doing, and he had initially not believed it. He was just seeing patients...

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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 06:47 AM
Response to Reply #96
98. Yes, I agree. His book was the turning point for me. No doubt about it.
And yes the fact that he was a PH.D., licensed psychologist,
with scientific training, and was quite skeptical about the whole thing makes his work more credible. Also established medical professionals have a lot to
lose by going public with this type of thing. They can have their license taken away, they can be the subject of ridicule by their colleagues, etc.

And I was really looking to see if he was leading the subjects
with his questions. But you can clearly see that the subjects are
very clear and firm in their information and rarely let themselves
be lead. They even argue with Newton and refuse to give pat answers.
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Bluestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-28-07 01:22 AM
Response to Reply #19
69. What a Beautiful Card--What deck is it? n/t
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 12:54 PM
Response to Reply #17
24. Sweeeeet! We get to ride cassie's coattails!
cassie, does this mean that I may now coast my way through this life spirituality-wise?!! ;) I can be like B* where he started on 3rd base and thinks he hit a home run!

:)


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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 02:20 PM
Response to Reply #24
29. Since my "promotion" is probably only from the Heavenly Latrine
Edited on Fri Jan-26-07 02:31 PM by cassiepriam
to the Divine Mess Hall, I wouldn't get too excited. :(



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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 04:29 PM
Response to Reply #29
33. WARNING: hey if you keep dissing yourself like that
we may just have to stir up the "gotta love cassie" conspiracy again.

:hi:

"Oh the amazingly wonderful places you'll go."

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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 04:42 PM
Response to Reply #33
34. Gee, where is Skinner's nuke option when you need it?. :(
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 11:40 PM
Response to Reply #29
41. Uh huh...
:eyes:

:rofl:

:woohoo:



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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 08:59 PM
Response to Reply #41
63. You've got the ooga booga avatar!
I clicked on your post, moved on and had to do a double take...

:rofl:
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 09:59 PM
Response to Reply #63
68. Isn't it great?!!
:rofl:

DUer soup made it in response to my request for one from helderheid. (I didn't want to make one myself without her permission since the image was hers.)

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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-28-07 01:25 AM
Response to Reply #68
71. love it!
don't know much how to play with avatars and other such stuff people do here on DU (except posting pictures - that - I learned)

:)
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-28-07 09:28 AM
Response to Reply #71
80. Oh heck Rumpel it is easy with photo bucket. You can make any image into an avatar!
Edited on Sun Jan-28-07 09:29 AM by cassiepriam
(LOL Dream you are so going to regret teaching me how to use photobucket)

You have created a monster :)
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-28-07 11:03 AM
Response to Reply #80
82. Naaaa. You, however, are definitely going to feel that way about me with astrology.
You're going to be cleaning up my messes all over the place here! :)

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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-28-07 11:07 AM
Response to Reply #82
83. Not called messes. Called LEARNING and GROWING.
That is how you get good at something.
Get on the training bike and ride.
Don't worry if you take a spill.
Just dust yourself off and get back on the bike.
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-28-07 11:25 AM
Response to Reply #83
84. By the way, cassie, I don't think that you'd be able to create an avatar that...
could be used at DU using Photobucket. When I tried to do this in the past, it made the file have a .png extension (which DU doesn't accept) and it's bigger than what DU allows. (I knew that I had tried this before, but I just tried it again just to make sure that Photobucket hadn't changed to be able to make them in our format.)

(There may be some way to do it in Photobucket, but it's not as simple as choosing resize to avatar.)

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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-28-07 12:48 PM
Response to Reply #84
85. Sigh, just when I thought I had the world by the tail :(
Nothing is ever easy is it ????
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-28-07 03:55 PM
Response to Reply #85
88. heheee
You're doing great. Avatars have to be loaded from your local machine. I use google image advanced image search and select "small" for size. Save it to hard drive. Upload with the option feature on DU. Photobucket is great for the embedded images.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-28-07 06:43 PM
Response to Reply #88
89. Yikes, that sounds easy :( (not)
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 09:02 PM
Response to Reply #41
65. Dream did you use photo bucket for that???
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 09:55 PM
Response to Reply #65
67. No, I asked heiderheld if she could make an avatar for us to use, and DUer soup...
Edited on Sat Jan-27-07 09:57 PM by I Have A Dream
made this in response to my request.

If you want to use it yourself, this is the procedure that you'd have to use for a Windows system: (There may be something easier, but I don't know it.)

Right click on my avatar, and then click 'Save as...' to write the file to your desktop with a .jpg extension. Then click on 'Options' above, click on 'Edit your profile', follow the instructions under the 'Avatar image' section, and then save your revised settings.

There may be a way to do this wthout writing it to your local machine, but I don't know how to do it any other way.

If you want to use it and have problems, I'll help you to figure it out.
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-28-07 01:28 AM
Response to Reply #67
72. I wonder if OPMC will be up for it...


:rofl:
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-28-07 11:00 AM
Response to Reply #72
81. That's funny, because I wondered it also!
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 02:33 AM
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97. we have to keep an eye on it.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 09:01 AM
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100. Press beginning to report what I have been saying for several years now.
Edited on Mon Jan-29-07 09:07 AM by cassiepriam
I maintain strongly that the number of US and Iraqi deaths are being vastly underreported, as is the injured toll. And I have gotten flamed for saying that in GD who say the WH numbers have to be correct, there is no way to fudge them. (I find that belief so naive). I also think the American troop desertion rate and fragging is not being reported at all, yet is happening. It will come out sooner or later.

Suicide rates, drug and alcohol use will be high, as will PTSD. Much higher than in Viet Nam.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2707327

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