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oceanspirit Donating Member (146 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 08:31 PM
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I could use some help here guys
I'm in so much pain with my back right now, I could just roll up into a ball and cry. I worked too long tonite, didn't take enough breaks, and now I have my litocaine cream on my back, which isn't doing a damn thing.

MorningGlow has done countless number of Reiki treatments on me, and it has helped. So honey if you read this tonite, would you please do a long distance treatment on me. I could really use it tonite.

As you may have noticed MG, I have NO breaks today. NONE. Mike and Lori kept me until almost six tonite. By the time I left, it was a mere blizzard. Oh well, took me about an hour to travel home safely, but I'm here, and I'm safe, but in pain.

So any help from my friends here, would be much appreciated.

thanks all

Oceanspirit
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 09:10 PM
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1. Oy, back pain. I know that critter all too well.
Here are some things I do to alleviate my back pain:

1. Alternate heat and ice at the worst spot(s). I do about 20 minutes of each, and alternate about four times.

2. Lay on the floor on your back, with your lower legs on a kitchen chair. If you can handle it, lay like that for about 20 minutes.

3. Take a really warm shower, with the water hitting mostly on your back.

Those have all helped me out.

Best to you, Oceanspirit. :hug:
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 09:10 PM
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2. I'm not a healer, oceanspirit, but I'll definitely send you light and healing energy.
I'm sorry that you're in so much pain. :(

:hug:

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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 09:24 PM
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3. Is it muscular?
I can't offer relief right now, but you have my sympathy. Muscular back pain from overwork can be very painful. You may need a muscle relaxer or take some Valerian to get to sleep. In the morning if it feels better that indicates it may be muscular. If it gets worse during the day, and really sore and tired from overuse, that would be another sign. Of course I can't diagnose anything.

I have this problem at times, and I have to use a kind of vinyl type back support with velcro that I got at the drugstore. I don't ever want to get too used to it, so I take it off when I can and do stretches, yoga, etc. whenever my back acts up.

This is more of an intermediate term solution but really this does work, and keeps me from having to stay in bed and allows me to do everything I normally would, with little pain.

Of course if this is not muscular it may not be the appropriate solution.

Good luck. Glad you are safe, and take care!!
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 11:44 PM
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4. the practice of squooshing
two tennis balls into a sock and tying a knot above it and cradeling them between the nape or one's neck on a flat surface is highly recommeded. No flat surfaces aor pillows are allowed. Do it for twenty minutes after a bath as follows and you'll be fine.

Arnica gel helps as well.

12th trick of last year's "19 tricks or Weapons of Massive Creation for Global Amelioration"

"12. I stole this one from now rumored to be reincarnated, though used to
be, old "sleeping prophet" Edgar Cayce.

Take baths. If you have no bathtub available, then bathe around. Aaaand
don't tell me that you have no extra time for baths, as baths take about
15 minutes, showers take 5-10. No one is really that busy or all too
important to not be able to do so.

Cayce recommended adding 1 part baking soda to 2 parts Epsom Salts
for baths. That stuff is really cheap. and readily available. I add
my fave oil (lavender). You can add yours. Ritual full immersion is
an age old, time & tried tradition for more than just physical
purification. It is especially so for more sensitive sorts. It is great
to do during lunations. That would mean, once every two weeks or so.
It is alleged to release all sorts of accumulated psychic effluvia
from bodies and auric fields . I just know that when I take one, I
invariably feel reborn, and am reminded that I too have a life, instead
of contemplating the troubles of others all the time as is my
ridiculously inherent proclivity."
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 11:35 AM
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5. Oh dear I didn't check this last night
So sorry honey! But I'm sending good juju now.

Dammit, I KNEW this was going to happen when you were forced to sit and do that stupid newsletter all day, then learn the new procedure for putting it on the Web.

An update for everyone else--OceanSpirit has more than your usual back trouble--basically no cushioning left between many of her vertebrae. Plus severe arthritis. She's SUPPOSED to be allowed to leave early once a week and whenever she's in pain, plus get up and move around as often as necessary to prevent her back from getting this bad, but those bastards at work "forget" and insist she sit for far too long to complete a job. Callous assholes, all.

OceanSpirit, I say again that you should ask the wonderful gang here to help you manifest what you need. I don't think you should stay at our work hellhole any longer. It's not my place to tell the forum about the alternative employment you're interested in--you're going to have to do that. All I can do is try to get you to actually manifest it, and these wonderful folks can help--I mean, they are GOOD.

Don't stay where we are just to be ornery--you only end up hurting yourself. And I don't want to see that. :hug: :hug: :hug:
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oceanspirit Donating Member (146 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 01:53 PM
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6. MorningGlow Your right
I just haven't have the "guts' I guess to ask for help like that. People here don't know me well enough yet to ask for that type of help.

To the rest who have offered help for my back pain. MG is right. It's much more than just your occasional back pain. I live in a constant state of pain every day of my life for the past four years now. Been to all types of doctors. Surgeons, Neurologists, GP's etc. I have a seriously degeneration between L2 and L5, but what's more important is the severe arthritis that set in before I decided to seek out medical help. Now, the arthritis has manifested itself so severe, they can not do surgery on me. My surgeon who is a well renowned in the country, but I'm just lucky enough to have him where I live. He has worked on many 'stars' and professional athletics in hockey and football etc. Not that he is perfect by any means, no one is, but I trust his opinion. He said that if he fuses my back with the metal rod and put the screws in place it only induces more arthritis, and because my arthritis is severe he doesn't want to do that to me. I respect that. I'm in enough pain. Last week I went to my GP (my surgeon has written me off as there is really nothing he can do for me and sent me back to my GP), anyways, I threw a hissy fit, because I was in so much pain, and there really wasn't anything more he could do for me. He told me I carry stress in my back, and I should learn how to ward off the stress, yea like that is ever going to happen.

Not only am I completely sensitive to others stress, but I tend to take it on myself. I carry it in my back, and oh yea I'm also an Indigo. I have a slight mental illness also that I have kept at bay with medication. I'm bipolar II. When pissed off I tend to go off on the person who is causing the injustice I see, and feel strongly that I have to add my two cents to that situation. Does any of this make sense at all?

I'm not a writer by trade, and have a hard time expressing my feelings on paper or in this case by typing. (Ask MG,she'll tell you lol)

So, with all this said, there is no hope for relief from my back pain. MG has done several treatments for me and has given me some relief. My GP has given me a tube of Lidocain to help reduce some of the pain. Doesn't really help much. He just doesn't understand the depth of the pain I guess.

We (MG and I) attended a team building seminar last Monday. Yea, total waste of our time. The head of the HR department came over to our table to answer one of our co-workers questions, and her answer was "A very wise woman once told me something very useful and I will share it with you now," "Adapt or die" Now this isn't exactly how she said it, I can't remember the exact terminology right now maybe MG can enlighten us on that one, but basically she was saying, get used to the new administration and the way they do things, or quit. Well as we all know MG quit. I took what she said and brought it to my doctors office. It old my GP, I'm using what she said in this situation. Adapt or die. He said first of all that that is one tough woman, and she should not be working for an HR department. Second, I hope you choose Adapt. I then said, what choice do I have. God has chosen me for this type of pain to live with the rest of my life, so I haver to deal with it and stop whining about it.

It's not that I get an awful lot of help with chores around my house. Husband and son are somewhat used to my pain level and basically I think have given up and have gone back to the way things used to be years ago. Mom does everything without help, so why start helping now. Seriously, it's not their fault. I'm a stubborn bitch and don't ask for help. I just do it. I figure they know I'm in pain, and their men, and just don't think to ask me if I need help.

Man, I've just spilled my guts out here on you guys. Sorry about that, but now you know a bit more about me. I've used my spirituality to help me get through the really tough times, but isn't that considered using it for personal gain? Again, so I tend not to ask for help. Regardless of who it is.

Gp now wants me to do sit ups? I asked him if he's out of his mind? How the hell am I supposed to do that???? He said it will strengthen your abnormal muscles. ????? I'm not there to get a six pack for heavens sake. I'm not an overweight woman, I'm of average height and weight. How is this going to help my back I asked him. He told me it will strengthen my lower back. Okay, so now i"m going to try that.

I appreciate all your kind words, but I've tried most of the suggestions you all have offered, and I thank you very much. At least you took the time to write back to me. Thank you all very much. A special thank you to MG for elaborating on my back problems.

Sorry for the long ramble. I appreciate all of you.

Thank you
Oceanspirit
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 03:21 PM
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7. Oh, oceanspirit, given what you've written, is there any way that you could get out...
Edited on Sun Jan-21-07 03:23 PM by I Have A Dream
of your work situation? I know that you don't want them to think that they've beaten you down, but who really cares? In my opinion, you need to do everything that you can to reduce your stress level, which includes work-related stress, and you don't want your health to get worse because you stay just to teach them a lesson. You need to take care of yourself right now, and, in my opinion, it needs to be your highest priority.

By the way, I don't think that there's anything wrong with using your spirituality for personal gain as long as that's not what you're basing your decision on as to whether you're going to help someone. (i.e., whether or not they can afford to pay you or that you look good in the process of doing it.) We are now part of your spiritual support community, and, speaking only for myself, I want to help you in any way that I can. I'm not gifted spiritually (such as being a great healer or anything), but I will attempt to send energy and light to help ease your pain as much as I can.

:hug:



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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 03:41 PM
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8. ditto to what Dream said
Edited on Sun Jan-21-07 03:48 PM by stellanoir
Healing oneself could be construed as "personal gain" but as the old adage goes, "we can't help anyone or anything until we help ourselves." Nor can we truly contribute our best from a place of depletion. So your healing is indeed for the greater good.

Personal gain should never be at the expense of others is all IMHO.

Receiving is always a toughy for those who's inherent nature is "to serve."

Please never hesitate to ask for help in this forum.

Hold on I'll go fetch a blessing that the others have seen so many times. Yet it's still my fave. Just reading it daily helps a whole lot.

"BLESSING

I send you light to hold you in love.
I send you light to heal you in love.

May you love, honor, and cherish the preciousness and uniqueness of your own being and of each other being in this world.

May you see your own goodness and beauty reflected wherever you look. May you be contented and appreciative of all life's bountiful gifts.

May the splendor and majesty of your being guide your thoughts, words, and actions.

May your pain and fear be transformed into strength,
understanding, and compassion.

May the shining light of your being radiate peace and harmony wherever you are.

May you be suffused with happiness, joyfully celebrating each day you are alive.

May you be abundant in all wealth and rich in generosity,
sharing your feelings freely.

May you be a soothing balm of kindness and a fragrant blossom of love to everyone you meet.

May you be well whole and healthy.

May the great love and compassion of your heart embrace and help to redeem the suffering of all beings everywhere.

May the inner light of your purity and perfection dissolve the clouds of discord, despair, and conflict.

May the intelligence and wisdom of your infinite mind give you clarity in a confusing world.

May you trust that you are loved, cared for and supported by the infinite always.

May you possess the precious magic jewel of gratitude that
transforms all life into a paradise.

May pause for a moment each day to remember this blessing upon you, and calling forth the full power and magnificence of your own being, may you pass it on to all beings everywhere.

I send you light to hold you in love.
I send you light to heal you in love. "

Blessings upon your infinite soul.


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oceanspirit Donating Member (146 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 09:30 PM
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11. To all:
Thank you Thank you Thank you. Stella, I am going to copy and paste that blessing and say it everyday. Thank you to all for opening up my eyes.

Unfortunately, there is no way I can get out of work. I have to work, we need the money. I have a line on a job at where I went for physical therapy. that place was great. they laughed, they enjoyed each other there, and it seemed less stressful than the hellhole i'm in now. The only way out is to find another job.

Workplace stress is awful, but unfortunately something I must endure for awhile yet.

When I said "God chose me for this pain the rest of my life" came from my mother. She always told us that God never gives you more than you can handle. So just the way I was raised, I feel that God chose to give me this pain for some type of reason. Crazy as it may sound, it was just the way I was raised.

I just want to thank you all for your support. I do now feel apart of this community. Thank you to all!!!!!!!!

Oceanspirit
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 10:31 PM
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12. you're welcome, you're welcome, you're welcome and
Though I find some chanellings to be absolute gibberish, this one seems apropos for you dear . Feel better soon.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=245x34355
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 10:58 PM
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13. yup she can heal
I was just hesitant to suggest acupuncture though it saved me and my kid many times over because she seemed so befuddled by western medicine. Thanks for suggesting that and consider sticking around. We have a lot of fun in here.
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Morgana LaFey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 07:20 PM
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9. Hmmm
God has chosen me for this type of pain to live with the rest of my life, so I haver to deal with it and stop whining about it.

With a belief like that, you're SURE to never find relief -- unless you want to go against God, that is. Where did you get such an idea?

I don't know a lot about them, but have you tried an pain clinics? Have you tried acupuncture which is often fabulous for pain?

I wish you every good thing, including a change of mind about how hopeless your condition is and what God really wants for you (which I'm sure is to manifest Perfect Health, and I believe you can).

:loveya:
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 07:41 PM
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10. Very, very good point, Morgana!
:thumbsup: & welcome to the forum!

:hi:
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 11:39 PM
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15. see post #13
I clicked the wrong respond thingy.

Whoops and welcome.
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 11:16 PM
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14. I'm so sorry OceanSpirit...
:hug: Sounds like a terrible place. OceanSpirit, you deserve better. Your highest good in the Universe is NOT being in pain. It's there for you, when you want it. You merely have to claim it and believe you can have it.

I am speaking from experience. I came to believe that my reality and "norm" was just to be in pain, incapacitated, miserable. As I've opened myself up and starting affirming,"I'm healthy"..."I feel well"..."I feel good" etc. I'm finding that more opportunities are in my path that are helping me for example, holistic physicians, websites with great information, books, validation from unexpected sources that certain courses of treatment are right for me.

I'm not going to say it's easy or that I'm healed, yet. I'm battling a lifetime of negative self-talk and messages--from others that were in my environment. It's amazing the beliefs we adopt without being conscious of doing so. Such ideas become second nature after hearing them for so long. But I'm constantly working to remind myself I can be more and have more...as I believe it.

Case in point--there are some people in their "elderly years" that believe, "...I'm old, and as you get older you just fall apart." So guess what, they are falling apart. But there are others that refuse to believe that and have never even considered such a thing--they are more active and healthy than people half their age. Look at Jack La Lane. He watches his diet, works out--really takes care of himself and doesn't buy into the idea that getting older means illness, chronic or incurable diseases, broken hips, etc.

I hope this helps!

best,
bliss :hi:

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