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Sweet Freedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 10:47 AM
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Iran?
Lots a posts floating around DU that we're purposely provoking Iran to start another war. What say the members of this forum?
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 10:53 AM
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1. duh would be the first answer
I have read enough. IF FUCKING GEORGE FUCKING BUSH goes after Iran. Get a funeral plot.
Or maybe you won't need one because you will be vaporized where you stand.

I cannot imgaine the madness that plots this course.

Take away the football.

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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 11:26 AM
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2. Ain't gonna happen.
Edited on Thu Jan-11-07 11:31 AM by BlueIris
I've been getting flamed all over the place on other sites for posting this, but my feeling about the world's situation overall right now is still--'kay, it's not positive, but the climate is stable. My impression of the Iran situation specifically is that Bush is being set up to take the fall here in some way, which is something we've predicted before around these parts. I don't see it "going nuclear," nor do I see a significant crisis looming. I just--I don't feel the potential for that at this time. Haven't since June of '05. To me, the Somalia move feels like a superficial one on the part of who or whatever wants Bush out. It's not intended to be anything more than smoke and mirrors, and yes, I know how horrifying that characterization is considering that it's costing actual lives, but that's the way I think the operators see it.

I'll admit, I'm thinking positive thoughts about the region, and praying for continued (relatively) calm waters there, but I'm not getting the sense that a catastrophe is on the horizon.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 12:47 PM
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4. I agree with your read
Don't see it happening. It's the talk. The fear factor.

When he started talking Iraq, my gut knew, he was going in.
Not the same feeling.

Hope we are right.
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Sweet Freedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 12:40 PM
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3. One "no" and one "duh" :)
What do the astrologers say? (Just curious about the charts).
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 12:51 PM
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5. Does anyone have
Iran's chart? We would be talking ancient.

Iraq is one of the oldest civilizations . at least it was semi civilized before the us marines got there.

How do you chart this stuff?
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 01:54 PM
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6. I expected to find jack and, um, shti, when I Googled that subject, BUT
Edited on Thu Jan-11-07 01:55 PM by BlueIris
someone else has been asking your questions, votesomemore. Here is what s/he has posted re: Iran's natal chart:

http://www.astrologyweekly.com/countries/iran.php

Solid reasoning, there, if you ask me, though I'm not sure if the chart information that can be gleaned from either the original appoximate date of Iran's inception (guestimated on that site to have been about May, 1501) or the more precise secondary chart begun February 1, 1979, is of much value.
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divineorder Donating Member (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 12:53 PM
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12. Astrologer Here
A nation gets a new chart when there is a change in governmental principle. So Iran has had several charts. While events in one chart (wheels in wheels) can echo in the following chart, the chart for the change in principle is the operative one. So use the 1979 chart.
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Sweet Freedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 08:03 PM
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7. Already happened?
http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/001869.php

Washington intelligence, military and foreign policy circles are abuzz today with speculation that the President, yesterday or in recent days, sent a secret Executive Order to the Secretary of Defense and to the Director of the CIA to launch military operations against Syria and Iran.

The President may have started a new secret, informal war against Syria and Iran without the consent of Congress or any broad discussion with the country.

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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 11:38 PM
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8. We did bust into the Iranian Consulate and arrested 5 people.
To "raid" a country's consulate is the same as invading their country. I'm not feeling really good about this, but I AM feeling better that after Tuesday's speech by Bush, even republicans are starting to yell and scream about what Bush is doing.
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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 08:58 AM
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10. How can he do that?
The President may have started a new secret, informal war against Syria and Iran without the consent of Congress or any broad discussion with the country.

How can he do that and get away with it? Shouldn't he be in jail for doing something like this? According to the laws of this land, he's the POTUS, not the Dictator (although we ALL know differently).
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Sweet Freedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 10:11 AM
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11. If it's true, I'm hoping he doesn't get away with it. /nt
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 07:03 AM
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9. I think anything is possible at this point. Bush is decompensating
big time. Mental status not good at all.
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