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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 09:49 AM
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fire school: a parable
Edited on Thu Oct-26-06 10:48 AM by stellanoir
Okay I was messing around on windy252's "Not sure if this is accurate" thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=245x29324

yesterday and feeling as though there has got to be a spiritual solution to our collective disempowerment, and am looking for feedback from this group of very wise souls.

Knowing all too well that brevity has never been my strong suit (understatement), coupled with the fact that my lengthier posts in GD (2 examples)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=2403794

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=3569357

have rarely been flamed perhaps simply because the trolls often have the attention span of gnats, I'm torn between doing one of my long winded diatribes versus trying to hone a succinct and positive way to goose the maximum number of people to empower themselves through affirmation, prayer, dispelling the oppressive collective fear, and focusing their consciousness for the greater good over the next two weeks and throughout Pluto's transit over the Gallactic Center, if not forevermore.

I intend to refine this message over the next several days before posting it in GD.

My guidance suggests that I should share this parable with you all prior to trying to sort this all out. . .

A parable that may just illustrate why ethical use of power has been
such a rarity on our sphere:

This was written last year for a friend who was being harassed by droves of women who were continually projecting inappropriately onto him and then over reacting to his subsequent and inevitable dismissal of them.

He said he had abused seductive tendencies in a prior life and that had been his then downfall. But he was still doing it but failed to recognize it, the silly sot.

So after I overcame a nasty urge to address him as "you brute. . ." sent him this:

". . .Here's sort of a decent parable regarding the whole ridiculously obtuse process.

This is from a guided meditation I facilitated for a dear, dear friend many, many years ago. As I'm sure you are probably well aware, fire esoterically represents creative (aka sexual) energy, though all the elements certainly play a role in real intimacy. Anyway, the raw desire related to sexuality that is Martian is definitely represented by fire.

So my dear friend astral traveled to a so called "fire school" and sauntered into a classroom and sat in the back of the room. The instructor said speaking to my friend, "OMG you have such phenomenal energy and talent you don't need instruction or fire school at all. Here's a torch" and he tossed him one. "Go and inspire the world."

So my friend got all inflated and grabbed the torch and proceeded to ignite an unholy host of regressively destructive conflagrations in really inappropriate places and sooner or later got recognized and exposed as a totally insufferable and dangerous pyromaniac.

Then my friend sheepishly returned to the classroom and again sat in the back of room and got ignored for a while. Another inexperienced and insecure person entered the room, got their ego inflated, became a hot shot by experiencing the same patronizing welcome as my friend had experienced earlier. MY friend looked up, thinking he maybe might want to warn the new upstart but was just too totally ashamed of his destructive urges and prior horrific acts to do so.

Then after lengthy instruction, my friend got initiated into being a fire worker and had to go around extinguishing all the fires and clean up all the messes started by and resulting from the totally inexperienced and naive fire upstarts.

Ultimately after a seeming eternity of contending with a whole lot of suffering and needless destruction he became a fire master and protector and was an embodiment of the creative eternal fire. He became conscientious, helpful, and totally mindful of where it is appropriate to start a fire and where it is just plain NOT.

I know that's fairly prosaic but feel it is very apt when it comes
illustrating how most tend to abuse fire (aka sexuality & power) until, as the old adage goes, they get burned.

Or, as an older guy who was a total character I once tutored once said in an intensely maniacal & guttural voice, "Look I'm an EGOMANIAC with an insecurity complex. . .and there is NOTHING more DANGEROUS than that."

Like most, and like my friend in astral fire school, I abused power in at least one lifetime (as a Crusader-ughhh) and then was a martyr and a victim for countless more. An astute woman once put it this way. "You've been martyred so many times that your guides just say, "Woh there she goes again." " The palpable emotion I remember from abusing power was that after many, many prior lifetimes witnessing and experiencing far too much injustice and suffering, I got angry at God. Dumb, dumb, dumb.

Oddly enough, I remember a redemptive moment towards the end of that life where I suddenly felt an intense heart connection with one of my intended victims who had such a blindingly magnificent life spark that I spared and saved him. I've been a pacifist ever since but certainly have made a slew of other interpersonal blunders.

In this life, I've always known that abuse of seductive energies were an enormous faux pas that would result in utter disasters.

At one point though, I thought that there were basically three types of
relationships between the genders: those of teacher/student, mother/son, and those of equal partners. The former of the two are often riddled with projections and imbalances, yet with the latter anything is possible. As far as I can tell, it involves hooking up on intellectual, spiritual, emotional, and physical planes simultaneously. It is most sadly a complete and total rarity.

Though I know it is fully possible and is void of expectations.
I cling to and encourage that ideal as often as I can. Silly me."

Anyway how does all of this relate to the upcoming election you may be wondering. :)

Welp it would appear that we have collectively empowered some seriously unconscious "fire starters" who have no clue about or choose to ignore the universal law of "cause and effect." I've noticed many times before in my life that people without consciences (aka sociopaths) tend to experience few if any repercussions from the carnage they leave in their wakes. It is as though they push those repercussions into future lives as they feel no guilt whatsoever. Guilt would be the hook but for those who project their shadow outside of themselves entirely, it seems to be delayed.

Thus the predictably tiresome and painful dynamic of persecutor and victim goes on and on seemingly ad infinitum. Well if we could collectively scream "ENOUGH ALREADY !!!" maybe that would do the trick.

Yet all too many collectively indulge in spewing anger and hatred and it appears to be self defeating and empowers further those very usurpers of power.

Our government was never intended to be a rigged spectator sport. But with our voting systems compromised and the power of the so called "special interests" that would appear to be what it's become.

So what my somewhat "off the wall" theory is that there may just be a way to influence the elections with enough of our hearts and minds together in unison as that is what can never be taken away from us or undermined really. It may be the quintessence of what makes us all ONE whilst still being uniquely ourselves.

If there is any facet of technology that could be influenced by consciousness it would more than likely be computers. If you don't agree then consider asking a geek or techie or two about inexplicable anomalies.

Of course it sounds irrational but so our those in power. They have consistantly refuted all our rational tools and arguments which are inclusive of verification through copious data from mathmatical and scientific and have defied history and have done so with presumed impunity for nearly 6 years if you haven't noticed. They simply dismiss our claims as "reality based." TRANSLATION: They are using low level magic and mind control. Their's is based on falsehood and fear whereas if we draw from truth and love and humor, can you imagine what would be possible. . ?

It's mind boggling to me when * arrogantly says "I don't pay attention to polls" I wonder if anyone else interprets that statement as declaring that he has no regard for the will of the people whatsoever. Some "decider." Yikes.

How can we in this humble little forum possibly inspire as many people as possible to re-empower themselves in the simplist of ways and in short order and validate what is stated in this prayer. . .?

"I am that I am, and the divinity in me is going to make a difference on this planet. Even my small efforts will create an energy that is larger than I can imagine, and combined with the efforts of others, will create a lasting and eternal peace on earth."

Perhaps by saying something like this. . .

Every time you feel the intense sorrow about anticipating the sometimes seemingly inevitable defeat, consider stiffening your spine, focusing your mind and saying aloud or thinking really loudly and firmly. . .

"I'm co creating with spirit that any malicious code implanted or secreted in the vote tally counting software be neutralized in the upcoming elections, and any malfeasance that does occur be so blatant that it will be exposed and corrected immedietely, so that the true will of the electorate will be revealed and true justice can be restored." (feel free to modify as you feel is appropriate)

Very simply, if they can rig 'em maybe we can fix 'em. . .with our hearts and minds.

I've posted this before and I'm dead serious about it.

Having approached this issue from every imaginable traditional angle for nearly 4 years, and having written to every pundit, plutocrat, and politician I could think of to virtually no avail, this may be our only recourse that won't take years of legislative and legal wrangling to remedy this most dire situation.

It's really about equalizing the playing field by acknowledgement and expression of the powerful life sparks within each and every one of our hearts.

A wise woman once told a story of a meditation she had where she was confused because people were continually seeking her wisdom and she saw some of them holding more brilliant life sparks and some holding sparks that were quite dim. She asked for guidance on this disparity. All she heard from her guides was, "that's how we see them as well."

Yet our celebrity obsessed culture is wired for us to project our divinity (spark) externally, and our power on those who are far less than conscious of or choose to ignore universal law.

"ENOUGH ALREADY !!!" indeed.

Sorry to babble on here but I was deeply compelled to share what I have been ruminating on for a long while.

What spiritual solutions if any, do any of you sense hovering. . .?

Thanks in advance for any feedback.






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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 10:33 AM
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1. Stella
Edited on Thu Oct-26-06 10:34 AM by OhioBlues
this is an excellent post and nuanced enough that it won't be moderator deleted as a sex thread, lol.

Your style of writing is almost subliminal, as if what I just read will be working it's way into the inner recesses of my head long after I'm done reading it.

Wow!:bounce: :thumbsup:
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 03:44 PM
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4. LOL
Edited on Thu Oct-26-06 04:23 PM by stellanoir
All unsavory ludeness aside. . .what could possibly be more totally erotic than focusing and guiding collective creative energies. . .?

I know I'm a total spiritualist perve. :)

I've practised a method of healing for several decades. It is reputed to be Lemurian though who the heck knows???

It's three simple symbols that allegedly translate to "attach," "balance," and "detach." In some cases I've had to repeat the symbol for "balance" a whole lot and my hands have shaken uncontrollably. I've never charged for this service.

I dated a Doctor a long while ago and after delivering my basic medical disclaimer: that "I received my degree in Medicine from the Lance and Leech school of Medicine in the 1500's." I said, " I'm really good at headaches." His retort was grumbly, "yeah, you're good at giving them." LOL

That's why I'll forever refer to him as "Dr. Grumble." :)

I truly hope and pray my scorching prose causes you no cranial restrictions whatsoever dear. If not PM me and I'll promise to fix or instruct you how to alleviate.

Basically all one has to do is swirl the energy and blow the restriction out of one's crown or third eye.

Hoping you're much more than fine dear.
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Chemical Bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 01:14 PM
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2. That's the one.
>Very simply, if they can rig 'em maybe we can fix 'em. . .with our hearts and minds.

Bill
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 03:51 PM
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5. It figures that
a fellow in part, 13th generational American would zero in on the optimum operative phrase.

The >>>>>>>>>>insert British accent here>>>>>>>> "finest in inbreeding" I swear.

Thanks. I'll pretend to be an alchemist and boil it down considerably as soon as I can.



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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 03:07 PM
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3. wonderful. This actually reminds me of The PATTERN on the TRESTLEBOARD
The PATTERN on the TRESTLEBOARD
This Is Truth About The Self


0. All the Power that ever was or will be is here now.
1. I am a center of expression for the Primal Will-to-Good which eternally creates and sustains the Universe.
2. Through me its unfailing Wisdom takes form in thought and word.
3. Filled with Understanding of its perfect law, I am guided, moment by moment, along the path of liberation.
4. From the exhaustless riches of its Limitless Substance, I draw all things needful, both spiritual and material.
5. I recognize the manifestation of the Undeviating Justice in all the circumstances of my life.
6. In all things, great and small, I see the Beauty of the Divine Expression.
7. Living from that Will, supported by its unfailing Wisdom and Understanding, mine is the Victorious Life.
8. I look forward with confidence to the perfect realization of the Eternal Splendor of the Limitless Light.
9. In thought and word and deed, I rest my life, from day to day, upon the sure Foundation of Eternal Being.
10. The Kingdom of Spirit is embodied in my flesh.

http://www.bota.org/pattb.html
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 06:53 PM
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8. all fantastic affirmations
thanks for posting.
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 06:30 PM
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6. Good work, stella! If anyone can get away with posting something...
like this in GD, it's you! :D
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 06:46 PM
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7. We'll see about that love. . .
It'll take some time though alas, we don't have much.
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wovenpaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 09:13 PM
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9. Oohhhh-another "stellar" post .........
:yoiks:(couldn't resist)

This will give me something to think about for awhile. I'll definitely add my affirmation energies

I'm reminded of this story:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Blue

And-I thought that I read somewhere at the time, Big Blue shut off inexplicably during a game that it was losing......

This is definitely something to consider-THANK YOU for your eloquent babbling, lol.
:hi:
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 09:29 PM
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10. ooooooooooo I just long to be compared to a chess machine
Edited on Thu Oct-26-06 09:29 PM by stellanoir
Thanks so much.

How sensual. . .
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 10:35 PM
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11. How about some Gratitude?
Do you go for that?

I am grateful for the dark energies working to enslave the world into a dark, cocoon tomb.
I am grateful for the natural progression of matter and energy. As the nascent butterfly strives for freedom from her encasement, I am grateful the struggle strengthens her wings. Her shiny, colorful wings carry her up toward the light. She has learned the difference between dark and light and will never return to the tomb.

I am grateful for the exposure to the many of the low energies working to trick and steal once again.
I am grateful for the natural progression of matter and energy. As our nascent reclamation for the world begins, I am grateful the struggle strenghens the souls of our great nation and the world. Our shiny, strong, rainbow wings carry us up toward the light. We have learned the difference between dark and light and will never return to the tomb of darkness.

I ask for the transformation of voting equipment so the true will of the People is transparent. Easily, painlessly, and harmoniously.

I ask that perpetuators of fraud, deceit, theft and enslavement be exposed and their efforts thwarted.
Easily, painlessly, and harmoniously.

"For nothing less than the greatest good of all concerned".

Don't know if this helps you, but it helped me. Thanks for posting and being so thoughtful and full of life.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 05:55 PM
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12. "Prayers of Gratitude are perhaps the most powerful."
I've one I say every morning. I'll post it or a link to it in a bit.

Yes and your contribution has helped more than perhaps you know.

THANK YOU !!!

I'm gonna sit with your imput and the imput of others for a while and let them coelesce into a hopefully more focused and clear form.

You've a refreshing perspective as well.
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 06:57 PM
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13. Absolutely beautiful! Thank you for this! n/t
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 11:24 PM
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14. I friggin' love you Stella.
Edited on Fri Oct-27-06 11:24 PM by lildreamer316
Very much in tune with my thought patterns....I am nodding and agreeing to everything you wrote. The conclusion is logical.
Don't forget...I would believe in my Achem's Razor idea here as applied to what you are saying-we are made up of electrical energy. We are energetic beings. Of COURSE we can disrupt/interfere/change a computer...it's made of the same stuff we are, right?

This also reminds me of the intentions post...the book at paxtonrobey.com. In one chapter she is talking about how to change the energy of something you are getting ready to put in your body so it is not harmful, since again, basically we are all made of the same stuffs and it is your perception of what is bad for you that makes it so. She uses cigarettes (ahh..watch out GD!!) as an example, and talks about an exercises where one holds them in one's hands and imagines/projects/changes their energy so as to be beneficial, or at least not harmful to the body. (an aside..that book is amazing. I reread it almost weekly.)

Same idea you have here...I would think it would be good to visualize the inner workings of the machine or the scene when the votes would possibly be changed, and imagine either your vote singularly, or all the votes being as they were cast.

Good luck on distilling that down to something a bit more palatable for those distracted by their fear energies. (!!)
Lemme know if I can help........
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 01:23 PM
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15. Whoops
sorry nearly a week has passed and I have been so-o-o remiss in responding.

I friggin' love you too lil.

Your alluding to "Occam's (Latin spelling) Razor" gave me pause.

It is thought that his thought prefigured modernity. Go figure.

Hmmmm. . .

"Theologians wanted a scientific proof of G-d: but what Occam said, and most everyone eventually accepted, is that science and theology have different objects and require different methodologies."

Or as I like to say to the Biblical literalists, "Some people just don't get the difference between poetry and science."

"Occam used the razor to do away with realist universals, insisting that valid explanations must be based on simple and observable facts, supplemented by pure logic. Accepting these conditions means that we won't be able to scientifically prove G-d's existance or his goodness, or any other tenets of faith. Such a conclusion didn't bother him at all: he thought theology was one thing (a matter of revelation) and science another ( a matter of discovery). This idea took a while to prevail, as Galileo could have told you, but ultimately science and religion went their own separate ways. In great part, this is what modernism is about."

Or at least it used to be. Duh duh duhhhhhhhh.

Thanks hon. I'm still trying to hone this and have been advised to ixney the fire parable before posting in GD.

Still it applies beautifully to the conundrum of meeting irrationality with intellect alone and how that has seemingly doomed progressives. Time for another approach I figure.

thanks


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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 08:37 PM
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16. dang right
any sales manager will tell you, appeal to the EMOTIONS. No matter how many Spock wanna'be's in the audience. There is one Universal language. Emotion. Energy in Motion.

Irrationality cannot be com batted with logic. Did bushco say . well logically, we have to hit the star zone at the 8th quadrameter to the epicenter and take out the third quentscentile of homeo sapiens?

NO! He said . GO . GUNS HO! BOMBS AWAY! . Where does that strike you? The frontal lobe?
No. The seat of Emotionalism. The limbic system.

That is the downfall of liberals. We are oh so logical. Problem being, the rest of the world is running on Emotive Juice.

Change the message. I know it's dirty. But our life and our planet are at stake.

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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 08:51 PM
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17. bingo
Edited on Thu Nov-02-06 08:53 PM by stellanoir
we are conducting the level of discourse on the entirely wrong lobe of the brain and therein lies the problem and the conundrum.

If they are gonna hit us repeatedly with fear. We've gotta hit them
relentlessly with higher truths through our conscious minds.

Thanks for your response. I always enjoy your contributions.

Truly.

We can do this together.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 03:05 PM
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19. ixney the fire parable ..
Well. Appealing to mass audience has never been my strong suit. I have a narrow focus.

I loved the fire parable. It explained so succinctly the relationship I escaped, with my hair on fire.

The ashes are falling round about. But. So much more so for the fire starter.
I could have lived peacefully my entire life without meeting such a one. It is truly a seductive spirit. There is no logical explanation. I am not a novice at romance. But it has always been done in a rational matter. Not so for the fire starter. I don't think is a mere coincidence that he enjoys pyro in real life. There was a lovely man-made waterfall, over natural rocks. He thought to pour a flammable liquid on it and set it afire. It blew up. Burned the pump, scorched the container. Very like real life. He is an arsonist at heart. Very true to your parable.

I'm not sure you should ixney that parable. To each her own.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 09:08 PM
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18. I'm going to
try that with my smokes. Which I kind of inadverdently do.

I have long been saying that I would never fall prey to cancer. My dad went with it . .my grandad, my sister has it, for 10 years now. It won't happen to me. I refuse that energy.

Doctors tell me my lungs are clear. I've had x-rays. I've smoked for almost 40 years. But I don't see them as harmful. Someone told me the other night there is a study that something in tobacco is beneficial for the heart. Contrary to modern science, of course. All my stuff is. And? Who am I to bow to modern science?

If I give it up, it is because of being uncomfortable in social situations, which are set up by social entities. Or the smell or left overs, which I control quite nicely. No one who comes into my house knows there has been smoking here. I am considerate of others and take it outside.

I do long to sit in a tee-pee and smoke a peace pipe though. How cool is that. No 'no smoking' signs. ahhhh

The problems come when the additives are . well . added. Too many chemicals. American Spirit . no chemicals added. That's not the Native way.
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