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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 07:42 PM
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Somebody help me
I was putting out my trash tonight to encounter my neighbor two flights up who nine months pregnant had her cats in tow. She said, "I am taking my cats to the shelter because they sleep in the baby's carriage. You like cats I was wondering if you wanted to take them in."

THIS BITCH wasn't even delivered yet. She was on the way to the pound with her sinister looking male what ever. I am so angry! I tried to call somone to take the cats but my friend couldn't take them - they will certainly go to their death. Since then I have been actively wishing death upon this bitch's unborn child for the retribution. I need someone to give me some spiritual help in not going in such a negative direction. I have no faith. But I love our planet and the animals that live therein. Please help me!

Nancy
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 08:07 PM
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1. You can't blame the baby for its parents.
You should be concerned that she will probably do the same to the baby that she's done with her cats. I have known women who were pressured to get rid of their pets by the father of their baby because the pet would be harmful to the baby in this or that way or so they said. Usually the father was gone by the first whiff of dirty diapers. At least she is taking the cats to the shelter. It buys them some time. I have known of animals shot under the same circumstances or taken to the country and abandoned.

Be calm and focus on the cats. Try to envision them with a mother cat encircling them and protecting them. Also, do the same for this innocent and unborn child. It sounds like it is coming home to an awful situation.
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 08:16 PM
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3. Thank you
I will try to focus my thoughts more postively. It's true that it probably won't be a great situation for the child and I can't let myself try to make it any worse.
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 08:14 PM
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2. This is a tough situation to be in. I don't necessarily have a way...
to help. However, a really, really important first step is to stop actively wishing death upon her unborn child. The child is a totally separate being who is not at all a part of this situation except that it's unfortunately his/her upcoming birth that's making this happen. I find it ironic that you feel so upset about the cats being put to death but are wishing death to another equally innocent being just because you're upset with his/her mother. (I understand that the real point of it is to bring pain to the mother, but still, it is ironic.)

You can't help but have whatever feelings that you have, but to actively engage in the wish that you describe is something that you can stop yourself from doing.

I hope that you're able to find peace, Nancy. Also, I hope that the cats are miraculously saved. I would say that I'd pray or send energy, but you didn't ask for this, so I won't do this.
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 08:19 PM
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4. Hey please send all the positive energy you can
I am trying to get myself in a better place as well so send me some too! I wouldn't have written so honestly if I hadn't thought it was a bad place to be.
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 08:36 PM
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5. Since it's OK with you, I will definitely send you energy, Nancy.
Edited on Wed Jul-19-06 08:38 PM by I Have A Dream
It's good that you really know your feelings because repressing them or denying them isn't good. (It does no good to tell people to just stop feeling the way they do. Their feelings are their feelings, whatever they may be.)

I think that one way to transmute this negative feeling about the child is to actually see it as a little, separate being. You're certainly a very compassionate person given your response in reference to the situation with the cats. Given this fact, my guess is that you'd actually be really upset if something really did happen to this child.

I wish that I could do something more to help.

:hug:
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 08:43 PM
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6. Me too.
:hug:
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 02:52 AM
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7. How many cats? Maybe
Edited on Thu Jul-20-06 02:55 AM by rumpel
if we find a solution to what is causing you the anger in the first place it may help?
You are concerned the cats will be put to sleep, right?
Neither your friend or you can take the cats.

So how about checking the local listings for organizations and pet rescue groups which may take them, or retrieve them from the shelter?
Out local PetCo holds a pet adoption event every weekend.

Maybe when you talk to some animal groups in your area, you may in fact find them a better home. At least you know, you have done what you can do and may be able to spare their lives. The cats will appreciate that regardless.

Next, the issue with the woman, she did try to find a home for them, in a sense, when she offered them to you - even though it may have been a spontaneous thought and not much effort behind it - but we don't know. You may have been her last resort? Think of how much the woman will be missing out from the pleasures and fun moments she could have had with her cats. Or perhaps she did not deserve them? I don't know.

Finally, you can envision that this yet to be born child loves animals and the planet like you do, who knows - she may eventually work to rescue animals? The child may perhaps nag her parents to get a pet, that maybe someday they realize what they did? :evilgrin:

my 2 cents :)

and of course I will send you light and peace
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 06:00 AM
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8. Hi Nancy
Edited on Thu Jul-20-06 06:01 AM by OhioBlues
It seems as if you are very hurt and I'm going to guess that you've not been fond of the neighbors even before this happened. I also know that you aren't happy with your feelings about the neighbors and so your mind went into overdrive to make them suffer as well.

Try to be calm and realize where this is coming from. Our own pain always tries to find ways to release itself.

I agree with the answers from Cleita, I had a dream and Rumpel.

If I find myself wishing something unkind I usually just ask that it be taken out and erased. It's very obvious that you aren't comfortable with your own reaction or you wouldn't have come here.

I will send some healing vibes and light as well.
:hug:

edit for spelling
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japple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 08:02 AM
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9. Am sending soothing, calming energy in your direction,
dear Nancy. I am sure that my own reactions to this situation would have been much like yours. You can't help how you feel, so don't beat yourself up about it. Whenever you find yourself thinking those thoughts about your neighbor's baby, try to concentrate instead on a plan to help the woman find a home for her kitties. Even if she does have to take them to the animal shelter, at least she hasn't abandoned them. I agree with the post that mentioned that your neighbor might be getting pressure from the father (or another family member) to get rid of the cats.

Keep us posted.
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mrgorth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 12:59 PM
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10. Sorry
You wouldn't like the kind of help I'd be giving you. How DARE you wish death upon an innocent child because of some (also innocent) cats. As parents, our first job is defending our young. Well before even protecting ourselves. And yes, I'm an animal lover.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 01:49 PM
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11. K.
I've been wishing for a kitty. But I could take five. I know how you feel though. That's what I asked for last week. How do I forgive? How to accept things as they are. GWB magnifies things a trillion fold. Like debt? We are all under extreme duress right now. I feel it. I feel more tied down and stressed out than ever in 50 years.

I hope someone gives you the answer to forgiveness. Because I need a big dose of it myself. I don't know how people are holding on at this point. I know I'm not. I'm out of my freaking mind. Sounds like you are in the same space.

Wish you better.
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yellowdawgdem Donating Member (972 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 05:12 PM
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12. Life in a pressure cooker
Hey Nancy,
Sounds like your anger is very natural, and expressing that without harming anybody outright is imo fine. I would feel the same if I saw someone harming any animal. It's too bad there doesn't seem to be a whole lot that you can do here, if she was already on her way to the shelter. Sounds to me like she was probably feeling nervous, and pressured about having the baby soon, and just flew off.
I do think though, that in addition to the situation being upsetting in and of itself- that we are all under a great deal of pressure now, and I've been noticing an increase in car accidents, other kinds of accidents, health issues, etc. And it does seem, also, that I've noticed people dealing with their anger differently during this time. It's good to keep in mind that we are all dealing with these similar irritations. So I guess I'm saying don't beat up on yourself over a little natural anger coming out.
The main thing, keep a good solid distance from this woman, and try not to let her into your energy field if possible.

Peace.
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 08:52 PM
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13. I think maybe my anger made a point
and she and her so were trying to talk to me tonight. But I can't take this in as I have so many family problems to deal with - my brother is dying and I can't do anything. But thanks to this forum I reversed my negativity and just wished bright light of revelation on her and I haven't wished any ill toward her now - enlightment and love.

I hope she just leaves me alone now. I can't deal with her problems.

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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 09:01 PM
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14. I'm glad that you were able to successfully make the...
change that you wanted to make in reference to this situation, Nancy. I'm really sorry about your brother.

:hug:
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