Buying a new house using Tarot - I would love your opinions.

[Quakerfriend]

OK, I know it's Friday eve and all but, I'm losing sleep over this decision. I would so appreciate any help or insight you all might be able to offer.

I bought some Tarot cards awhile ago and am not very confident in my understanding of the meanings of some of the cards.

One week ago, I went to see a house that we can barely afford and of course, I fell in love with it. After seeing it initially I came home and prayed over the Tarot deck and asked my mother who crossed over several months ago (and who happened to have been a realtor): "Mom if there's any way that you can MAKE this happen for us please show me or give me a sign!" Then I picked two cards- The first was the Magician and the second was the Wheel of Fortune. So, I thought that was a good sign :crazy:. At this point I REALLY felt like I just had to have the place. Then I began to fret. Not sure if we should spend the money. I returned with my realtor to take a second look at the house. And, I fretted some more. Beautiful old home (built in 1809) wonderfully restored but, some moisture in the basement, septic tank, acreage that would need to be tamed. etc. I still love it, but I'm very confused. I seem to be drawn to this house, like a magnet. Yet I am scared to dive in.

So, tonight I decided to go back to the Tarot and draw one more card. I asked, Would it be the "right" decision to go ahead and buy the house? The World card came up.

I would love your input on the cards or any vibration you might sense about this tough choice. Thanks girls!

[MissWaverly]

1. My two cents

Okay, I just tried to visualize something here goes, I have a photo album, it was given away
to Esso customers, it's a chalk drawing of a car going off into the mountains, and why I like this so much is this simple drawing and inside it says "We hope you have a swell time."

So this is what popped into my head when you posted.

[Quakerfriend]

2. His Ms. W- I was hoping you would come along!

Please, tell me more. I'm not clear on what you are telling me.

[MissWaverly]

3. well, I take it as a Go!

I think the image of the car driving off into the mountains means difficulties but that it
is worth the trip, the words "have a swell time." I take to mean that you will be happy
with your new house. Of course, I believe you are sensible and will investigate every detail
but I think it's a go from what my hunch tells me. Also I have been hearing about trouble with
the dollar and I believe rapid inflation is approaching esp. once we leave Iraq so I would go for a lower interest rate asap. I included the other facts, because it's hard for me to judge
what is significant. Ignore non-pertinent material!

[Quakerfriend]

4. Yes, the dollar is a major concern.

Can you believe the mental shift that seems to have occured in just the past week. Everywhere I go people seem to be very worried about gas prices, food prices etc.

And, it's almost comical to drive down a street and see house after house for sale all of a sudden.

[MissWaverly]

6. Well, my sister is making an upgrade

but she is getting one of those loans where you just pay the interest, she says that I am
a nutjob, I have one of those 15 year mortgages. She works really hard and has a traditional
mortgage on her current house, but has only paid a tuppence worth on the principal. She says
that this way it will be easier to pay the bills with the same result as if she had a traditional mortgage. She lives in Northern Virginia and the homes down there are sold on proximity to DC not the quality of construction.

[Quakerfriend]

14. No, you are not a nutjob!

We have a 10-year with 4.325% interest, and I am so thankful!

[MissWaverly]

16. Thank you

My sister and I are two opposites, she sees beyond the horizon and I can't see past my nose!
I am practical, she's a dreamer. Thanks for the vote of confidence!

[stellanoir]

5. well from my humble perspective

The Magician undeniably says "go for it." You have creative powers beyond your belief or recogntion. It is the veritable fulcrum of the essential bold stroke.

Now the other two cards are probably two of the more open ended cards in the deck. The Wheel suggests a plethora of forces at play. Some of those would hinge on your own faith. Some of them could suggest unknown supportive forces in play here as well.

The World would be similar in a way but would hinge to a greater degree on your self worth and your relationship with your immediate environment as well as the relationship between your inner and outer reality.

I would say you have a total green light with the first card.

Pull a few more cards for more details okay? But there are no overt negatives here. Not that I believe in those anyway. But they are more vague than anything else.

I've a good feeling about this for you though. Just take your time.

[Quakerfriend]

8. Thank you, stellanoir for your insights about the cards.

I just selected three more cards and asked, "How will this affect my family?"

The VI of Swords, The X of Wands, and the III Wands (upside down).

I wish I could see the path which I should take more clearly. I may visit a psychic tomorrow when I go downtown. I'll let you all know how it works out.

[stellanoir]

9. Woh now this is like one step forward two steps deeper.

Disclaimer: I've never interpreted cards online before unless I have been the one to have pulled them. I've generally done it one the phone or in person.

But if I were to venture a guess I'd say this could bode really well in a way for transition and completion and introspection and more refined inner clarity.

Yet I'm uncomfortable in terms of my lack of experience with this particular methodology and also a little nervous about generically recommending major transactions prior to early July, when Jupiter will go direct. But the degree to which that may or may not be influencing you would vary wildly based on your chart.

But what the heck, pull a couple more cards if you so desire as I wouldn't consider the III of Wands the resolution of the tale. I generally keep pulling 'em until I get a full sentence if you know what I mean.

[Quakerfriend]

12. Stella, you are so funny! Don't worry, I would never hold you to it!

BTW, what does Jupiter going direct usually bring about?

OK, I pulled three more and asked, "Will the move to this house be good for the children in terms of the school and friends etc?"

I got The Sun, the X of Cups (upside down), and The Hermit IX (upside down). The first two cards seem to point to good things in this move. But, The Hermit makes me question the first two cards. ???

Does the positioning of the cards (upright vs. inverted) mean anything?

[MissWaverly]

17. inverted means the opposite

if one card stands for wisdom, upside down it means foolish impulse

[stellanoir]

18. Jupiter going direct generally brings forth

more accessible expansive energies. And lots more laughs. :)

Well I'm not of the belief that reversals necessarily turn a positive into a negative and a negative into a positive. I mean there are 78 cards in the deck. Do we really need 156? I think not.

So the Sun says follow your heart and spirit.

Sometimes the reversal of cards can indicate the internalization of energies. So the kids mig recognize an improvement on a deep and soulfully profound level. They'll feel a much deeper and profound connection to family as well.

The Hermit reversed would indicate that socially it might take a while for them to establish connections. But they will be deeper when they do so.

It's still not the end of the sentence. But I'm currently fried.

Thanks for affirming my humor dear. I needed that after this particular week.

Will check in during the AM EDT.

best,

[MissWaverly]

7. something else that I thought of

2 things, in hard times you are better off out on a little land, you could put in a garden
if push came to shove, and also my family history has always included details of bad
investments, my grandfather lost his life savings when the banks failed in 1929, my
mother held stock in a supermarket forever and finally sold it for what she bought it
for with no profit. But in our family, we have never lost money in land, it may drop
but it comes back up. Every single investment in land, even my father's lot that he
did nothing with sold at a substantial profit. Something to think about.

[Quakerfriend]

10. Funny, I was just thinking about the land.

First, I totally agree with you. But, the taxes on the land can be burdensome.

Right before I read your post I was thinking about the idea of buying back two acres that the owner of the house had subdivided and are currently for sale.

Part of my dilemma is that I so love the land. I have always had a closeness to nature and a desire for solitude. This is not exactly the best 'desire' to have in middle age!
I used to be an avid gardener but, now the back and shoulders sort of crimp my style, if you know what I mean, LOL. I took a walk around the property last time I was there, and it was a bit scary- big trees down, vines everywhere- Of course, my personality which says 'do it yourself if you want it done right' doesn't help much! I've been looking into the in's and outs of buying a brush cutter and thinking what are you CRAZY?

[MissWaverly]

11. well, I know you love the house

but there is work to a lot of land, why don't you consider smaller acreage, goggle something up
on your area. Now everyone thinks of buying a house like going to a prom, there is what you love and then there's everything else, but it wouldn't hurt to look at other possibilities, maybe the same idea with less work. My sister used to have a big lot and it was mucho work.
They had to buy a snow plow blade for their riding mower to clear the driveway in the winter.

[Quakerfriend]

13. Yes, this is what my husband is saying too. But, somehow I

feel very attached to this house. Strangely, I feel that I may have lived here in a past lifetime or something.

I am going to ask for some divine intervention tonight before I go to sleep to show me the path that I should be on. I am very much afraid of buying the place and then not being able to keep up with the yardwork. Yes, and snow plowing etc. It takes alot of money and hardwork to maintain a long driveway! My boys are only 9 and 13- Not exactly willing lumberjacks! I guess I could get them in training.

[MissWaverly]

15. Many roads lead to Rome

Like I say, it may be in the cards for you to have a beautiful garden for that is what you long for, write down everything you want in your house and put it inside your pillowcase and ask
for guidance. I have heard that it is very powerful to write things down. I would limit
it to 15 things. Remember there is not just 1 door but many.

[NJCher]

19. past lives and houses

My dear Quakerfriend: you must have missed my many posts on houses and being drawn to them and previous lives and all that. There must be a dozen or so of them around here. Having been through this myself, I've been collecting stories of people who feel this "pull." Did you know there was even a show on HGTV about people who felt this and then moved into their houses?

Maybe I will do a search for my "house posts" and pull them out.




Cher

[Quakerfriend]

20. Wow, I did not see these, NJCher! I'll check them out.

So, this morning I picked another card, the Three of Cups:

Celebration, hapiness and harmony achieved. Looks like I have some deciding to do.

:think:

[LWolf]

21. Random thoughts:

I can't really comment on the Tarot. The traditional Ryder-Waite deck, with traditional spreads and meanings, have never meant anything to me. I can read other, non-Ryder-Waite cards for some reason. Still, I get clearer answers when I just breathe, get centered, and "ask" without any cards being involved.

I'm more interested in your being "drawn" than the cards. Why are you drawn? Ask your guides, ask your mom. Then "listen" without the cards. Are the reasons you are drawn reasons to step forward, or not?

Some mundane questions to ask:

How is the "housing bubble" in your area? Is the place likely to hold it's value?

If you can barely afford it now, will you be able to afford the necessary work/maintenance?

If this is the "right" place, what compromises will you have to make, and are you willing to make them?

I did this very thing a year ago. A whirlwind move and life-change; I had to find a new place. Did I go with the practical, easy place that fit the budget better and didn't need all the work, or the place that "called" me to the point of shutting out all the other options?

I went with the place that "called" me, and am accepting the compromises I had to make to do so. A year later, it turns out to have been a good decision, even with all the compromises.

[Cleita]

22. Three major arcana cards!

Go for it. Everybody buys a house they can barely afford. If you have checked that there isn't something that they aren't revealing like it's buried over an oil well, go for it.

The Magician tells me the acreage that needs to be tamed is calling you. Because your mother was a realtor she is telling you that it's a crap shoot. All investments are. However, it's a good crap shoot if you are willing to meet the challenge.

Then your mother sent you the world card. Think of it as "the world is my oyster" and there is a pearl there waiting to be discovered.

[Quakerfriend]

23. I'm so glad you've weighed in Cleita!

Last night before I went to bed I drew 4 more cards: the Tower (upside down), Ace of Cups, Ace of Wands, and the Sun.

Then I checked my horoscope for today on astroworld, and Wow!


Personal desires
"This is a time for making plans about your personal life and for thinking about your goals and objectives, not in terms of your career but in terms of your inner feelings and personal desires. Often the demands of the outside world become so great that we lose track of what we really want in life and spend our time trying to live up to someone else's expectations. Even worse, we internalize those expectations and convince ourselves that they are our own. Now is a good time to cut through all of those ideas within yourself and to think about what you want and about yourself as you really are. On a more external level, this is also a good time to make plans concerning your household and family or the physical dwelling that you live in. Also, buying or looking for real estate is favored during this time."

And, btw, I also discovered that the house is being forclosed on on May 31st!!!! (I'm going to do a title search this week.)

I guess, Mom is trying to tell me to make an offer. I will let you know how it all works out. And, thanks again for your input!

:hi:

[Matariki]

24. Those are great cards!

Sounds like a very good thing. I'd recommmend offering your mother a nice small meal of her favorite food and drink, along with a glass of water and candle, and asking for her help - maybe making a lower offer and have it accepted for instance.

[Quakerfriend]

25. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking too. After the kids go to bed I'm

going to call the realtor and put my offer in. It will be only 60% of the actual asking price but, will still give the owner a nice chunk of change to walk away with- They owe alot to the bank. Atleast, this way they will not have to simply hand it over to the bank. They forclose on 5/31.

And, I don't feel badly about the forclosure because the family is in the building business and it seems that they have just run around taking out huge amounts of money to throw into a bunch of places. This place has been on forclosure for 2+ years and the lady just finished putting several 100K in upgrades in- including 50K of crown molding, alone! She drives a top of the line mercedes too. Can you imagine spending like that for years while you simply ignore your mortgage payment?

[Metta]

26. Augment your findings with I Ching.

Or/and one of the other means here: http://www.eclecticenergies.com/ :thumbsup: :donut:

[Mist]

27. I'm coming late to this thread for your original question, but I thought

I'd share a "Yes-No" way of reading the cards that has worked better for me than others: shuffle well, and count cards into the first pile. STOP when you get an ace. If you get no ace, stop at the 13th card. Do the same for a second pile, stopping at 13 cards, OR an ace. Do the same for a third pile. If you get 3 aces, the answer is YES, 2 aces, the answer is PROBABLY (study the other top-lying card carefully though), and one ace is PROBABLY NOT. No aces would be NO. Study the cards in the pile (I generally look at them from the bottom up, as that's how they're dealt) to get insight into the question or situation.

[Quakerfriend]

28. An update:

Well, first of all, thank you all for your encouragement. We made an offer and tonight, the eve before they are about to foreclose on this property, the owners refused to even counter our offer. They responded by saying that we "were not even on the same page" and that our offer was "below what they paid for the land alone."

Of course, I know exactly what they paid for the whole kit and caboodle (?). And, I seem to be the only one who knows that they have been in foreclosure proceedings for 2 years and, in fact, just had another lien put on one of the subdivided acres that they could not sell. These people really play the system! Pay no mortgage and no taxes for years...

It seems that perhaps they have won a bit more time via their lawyer. Needless to say, I am very sad tonight. I would never want to take someone's home from them. However, my offer would have left them with several thousand of their own after they paid the bank.

They are quite brazen HOPING that they will get the price they want within the next month or so. Oh well, I hope that everything works out for them.

But, I love this house and I will keep on watching the foreclosure docket. I will keep you all posted.

And, thanks for teaching me a thing or two about Tarot!

[NJCher]

29. Yes, keep an eye on it

They sound like "operators." I've done a dance or two with these types. :crazy:

Keep us posted on this, please. I am very, very interested in this saga, as I explained in an earlier post.




Cher