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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 03:02 PM
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some thoughts on reincarnation
About reincarnation...
When this reality happened..
The true spirit ( one word among many words for it is Sophia the Aeon's)realized that there was a celestial error,as in the making of a spirit trapping materiality system,(evil) or(darkness) as some new agers call it something had to help. So transcendent spirit devised a PLAN OF RESCUE. It had to find a way to help the spiritual beings that were trapped in this dimension to get out of here.It sent Avatars Christ Buddha and other teachers like Boddasatvas ..to teach people with spirit in them, to protect themselves and awaken from programming.

The physical has to die. It is a 'shell' or as buddha put it a vehicle that houses(traps) spirit.. The consciousness will be evacuated out of this recycling system of reincarnation will cease as each bit of spirit is drained from this reality through deaths and intervention.(hence the buddhist idea of bubbles or realities evapoorating as spirit "evolves" out of various hells)

To me the physical is flawed and it is not worth keeping. It is totally polluted, it is diseased and sick state that is self destructing because it has been made without spirit.The Earth is dying and is not infinate.
So in order for this materiality to have shape,spirit beings are trapped here ,it keeps it "alive" so to speak.As spirit leaves and people without spirit become more frequent, the Earth dies. It can be seen in how civilization and "capitalism" that benifiets the few is destroying entire nations resources ect.

This reality is a parasite and predator upon spirit..We are forced to die here because the bodies have been created obsolete on purpose.It keeps us confused about what we are.

The maker of bodies is a HALF MAKER a false "God".You know about PLANNED OBSOLESCENCE.That is why we die.It keeps us afraid.It keeps us addicted to life here.It keeps us in a state of control.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_obsolescence
Our consciousness however does not die. When we die we are recycled,or "reincarnate"again (some remember it others don't) In between lives we go in the astral somewhere,getting programmed(convinced to come back here willingly maybe) to go into another body again..because we have nowhere else to go.

Since sex happens in this world everywhere because human bodies are programmed to reproduce themselves with intense urges and intense fantasies and sentimentalities,there is no shortage of fetuses that will become babies to put spirits into. (this is why people like the fundies call abortion evil because they are agents of the archon,evil hearted bullies (the fundies think abortion is murder but see no evil in Abu Gharib or war..WTF??!!)

Servants of the evil force,waving bibles telling others how to live so that trauma and abuse will not stop.What these"believers"don't get is they are making sure spirit stays trapped here and the cycle continues so evil can feed upon the emotional energy generated when good people are abused and exploited and injured when spirit is trapped in bodies..)
Trauma has a side effect of scarring spiritual perception and ability to trust oneself .(How convenient for the evil principle)

So this recycling system and traumatizing process is going on all the time. (Believe me I tried to escape this cage after a death and ran right into some force that slammed me right back,painfully into this body.)This is true based in my own EXPERIENCES.
The suffering of spirit sustains this evil realities existence.
Your experience before birth may be different or you may believe what the recyclers handlers told you. I dunno. Only you know your own inner truth.

Buddhism's goal is to ESCAPE the cycle of rebirth,ultimately.Why is that? Also Other religions speak of ESCAPING this trap somehow too. Some discuss the end of this reality a separation of good from evil.as in Apocolypse..Which means getting out of this trap too.

The whole planet is sealed off in a wall.I have seen it in visions,ran into it before I was born. If you die on earth, your consciousness goes up into the astral planes somewhere.. and you come back and start life all over again in here in a new body that goes through shit again and your emotional pain sustains the archons until your body wears out,you go back into the astral get programmed or run into a wall again and come back here again.Hence the "feedback loops" reality has running everywhere things interact.

About KARMA. Karma it is claimed is like moral "cause an effect".That's another way of saying it's yet another system of reward or punishment for doing good things and punishment for doing bad things. Well,karma is total bullshit, because if you look at people, if you regress people ,It's the same good beings that are always punished and the other ones always go free because it is their world,not the good principles world.Look at Bush How does he GET AWAY with his insane crimes without his come uppance? How can evil hearted thugs(smart evil hearted thugs) get away with so much crap and cause such strife and not suffer one iota the agony their victims suffer and they feel no pangs of shame or guilt for their crimes??

Because they are devoid of spirit.It takes one bully to terrorize an entire school and feed off the emotional anguish their bullying causes and every time it is the most gentle, creative,sweet kids that are abused the most in bully situations. Why is that? Because gentle creative emotional and empathic kids have a stronger infusion of spirit.

The Stanford experiment and the Stockholm syndrome,and battered wife syndrome, where in the hell does THAT come from? Maybe it is a form of demonic possession?

Karma is a trick by the archons or evil principle to fool people into accepting punishment and strife as their self caused problem as their own fault for not being good enough.People are forever being traumatized here. Good people are forever being traumatized, because they are the ones with the energy that the parasitic,predatory evil needs to feel alive and in control. These fake evil beings do not have any Divine energy in themselves they are just there to extract energy from the True Beings and feed and they do that by all the sadistic crazy making things, that they do to goodhearted beings.


In alot of ancient texts there are stories of twin gods. One creates beauty and whatnot,the other death and pain and sociopaths.
Even in the bible they admit Gods when they use the plural form of Elohim. The Orthodoxy seeks to rewrite this and say evil is not evil.
They try to say all is one,spirit and materiality are one but reality does not reflect this oneness ..in fact to be one it must be struggling against itself ..and if it struggles as one principle,what is the one struggling against if it is all the same? It is impossible to be ONE reality here in a war of principles.

So I have come to the conclusion there are two creators, Two principles. One conscious good and one evil.They are mixed and at war here.One principle is the evil one that made this reality and stole/trapped spirit here,(hence consciousness in matter and reincarnation ect.).The other "creator"is different a transcendent kind of reality that I am at home with because of the nature of my kind of spirit seeks it.I can see this other reality through my imagination.I try to share it with my art, writing or creativity.That's what alot of transcendent spirits do,they sing beauty in this cage.

Being a creative,questioning person and anti authoritarian I clash with the sick beings made from this reality by default,and it seems they seek out people like me to give people like me hell.Because certain people it is said they have a "strong spirit".. This material reality is not my home.It is a mixed state quite unnatural for me and so it hurts.
I have hope that this mistake will be "corrected"


This cage called Earth will be opened soon and we that suffered here will go home soon .How it opens,when or in what way I don't know.. all I know is rescues will come for the spirits that want out.I dunno of my body will die as I step aboard a craft,If I will be taken out of my body and my body thrown away, or if I will be rescued as my spirit flees this Earth,as I die as the "super-wave" tears this place apart or some other way.. Whatever way it is coming,keep your spiritual eyes open and do not be misled,stick to your own inner truth..Your Gnosis.That will insure you are where you need to be.

"There will come a time, there will occur a generation, which will not know death."

Are we the generation that will not know death?

I think this saying is not saying that we will not die, because we all physically die(planned obsolescence).
I think it means that we will see beyond death and perceive interconnecting barriers between states of consciousness,and this trap will be completely destroyed in this generation.

Of course there are people claiming to be able to help our bodies live forever.With genetic tinkering or cy-ber implants or whatever..
Beware such a prison as this " eternal life" in a body trapped in an evil system,in flesh that is dying even before it is born.
(Death and some sickness is programmed deep into our DNA. Cell death occurs as fetuses lose webbed fingers and develop etc.)
Why do you think this is? Is this the design of a "loving" god?

Just my thoughts.


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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 04:02 PM
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1. I've recently started reading a series of lectures from the 1950s...
from a channeled being. There are hundreds of lectures available on-line, but this particular one made me think of what you're discussing.

http://www.pathwork.org/lectures/P021.PDF


This is lecture 21 of 258 lectures.

The entire list of lectures can be found here:

http://www.pathwork.org/lecturesObtaining.html

I find them extremely interesting, and I've gotten some inspiration from them. However, I realize that you may not personally resonate with them.
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