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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 08:40 PM
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DU professional psychics and readers--ever turn away a client?
Edited on Thu Dec-01-05 08:40 PM by BlueIris
I'm asking because I believe I've had my requests for a reading basically rejected by a local psychic/medium three times now. Every time I ask to set up a reading or when she's available, she basically makes excuses about why she can't do it. I'm a regular customer at her rock/bookstore, I always pay cash, I've invested lots of money there, and I'm polite, friendly and most of all normal. I'm starting to wonder, is there something wrong with me? Is she getting a weird vibe? Can any psychics here think of a reason why she would be turning me away? I'm not obsessing over it, I just think it's strange.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 10:15 PM
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1. Why not ask her?
Do you know for a fact that she does other readings?

I'm not psychic, but do Tarot readings. I can't think of a reason why I would ever deny anyone a reading. One I did indicated the woman was very hard to get along with and was causing most of her own problems (which is usually the case anyway). I didn't tell her that outright; only suggested she take some action to ameliorate her situation. She kept writing back and asking more and more questions and making excuses why her life was so miserable. I had to put a stop to that.

Let us know how it goes?
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davsand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 11:13 PM
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2. I have refused to read for people.
Usually it has been people that I know TOO much about already. I just HATE to read for friends because if I know someone too well it colors my perceptions in the reading.

To give an example, if you have a buddy that has had a LOT of issues with his/her mom it can be really easy to look at a Queen that comes up in a reading and see it as "the Mom" rather than being open to all the other stuff that can be carried or implied by a Queen in a Tarot spread.

Is it possible this is what is going on here?

Something that also comes to me is the question of what is her tradition? Is it possible that she doesn't feel comfortable with what she presumes are your interests (based on your purchase of reading materials and supplies?) We have folks even here at DU who are quite open about the fact that they are ____(insert tradition here)___ and they have no desire to deal with ____(insert some other tradition here)_____. Most of them don't hang out here in this forum, happily...

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Now, I doubt this has anything to do with your situation, but I did refuse to read for a guy one time because he creeped me out SO bad that I didn't even want to talk to him, let alone establish any kind of bond. He felt "icky" to me and I learned a LONG time ago not to ignore that kind of red flag.

Like I said--I do not think this is what is going on with your situation, but if I'm being honest, I have to admit that I have refused to read for someone based purely on my gut reactions. Yes, I can be a stone bitch sometimes. :)

I agree with the suggestion that you simply ask her what's up. It may be some mundane thing that has nothing to do with you. If that is the case I bet she'll tell you.

Good luck, and I'm gonna be wondering about it now!



Laura
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 06:19 AM
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3. Just wanted to say--
I don't think any reason that you've given for not giving a reading would equate (in my mind at least) to you being a stone bitch, as you said.

I think it's smart to listen to those vibes when we get them. I've only been disappointed with myself, or sorry when I DON'T listen to those feelings.

Good for you for listening to yourself and honoring that. Those feelings exist for a reason.

Sorry to the original poster--not trying to hijack your thread. Just felt I needed to say that. :)
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 06:34 AM
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4. This doesn't equate to there being something wrong w/you--
Edited on Mon Dec-05-05 06:35 AM by bliss_eternal
in any way. What is her perception of you? Not sure--couldn't say for sure (as I'm sure you know).

But to be honest, if I spent lots of money at someone's store, and felt that they weren't being honest with me about their ability to read for me, I may be inclined to stop spending money at their store. But that's just me.

I'm sorry that you do feel that she's been putting you off and making excuses. :hug: That's a sucky feeling regardless of her reason behind it.

If she feels that she may not be the best reader for you, for some personal reason or vibe that she is getting as a sensitive or a reader, that's a whole other issue. If that is the case, I would think it would be great if she could be honest about it--but in all fairness, how would one say something like that, without hurting someone's feelings (yours)?

If this was the case, that isn't saying that there's something about you that is 'negative' or 'bad.' It could be that you remind her of her best friend and she doesn't feel she could read you appropriately because of this. Or perhaps you remind her of someone that hurt her in her life, and she can't get past that.

It could be a myriad of reasons why. Bottom line, it's her issue, not yours. It would be nice if she could be frank about this, but she may feel ridiculous about her feelings and not really know how to deal with the feeling.

But again--these are all 'possibilties' that may or may not be valid reasons.

If some of that is going on, she may not want to say anything about it and risk losing you as a customer, since you do spend a lot in her store. So maybe, from that perspective it is easier for her to 'make excuses' and put you off--rather than saying she may feel that she is not the best reader for you...

I hope that what I said here made some sense, and wasn't confusing. It's late and I sometimes don't make a lot of sense when it gets late. lol.

I hope that you will let us know how it goes--

Take care!
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 04:24 PM
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5. For the record, if I had to make a guess,
I think it is possible she doesn't want to read for me because she has picked up on something she doesn't want to tell me. Which is fine. I do have other people I can solicit spiritual and psychic advice from. There's no way I'd want to make a reader who well, doesn't want to read for me, do something she doesn't want to do. That would be stupid and kind of wrong in my book (not to mention a waste of time).

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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 03:38 AM
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6. I understand--
I hope that you didn't think that was what I was saying. I wasn't. Just tossing different ideas out there, of possibilities...

I also didn't like the idea of you being down on yourself, for her (poorly hidden) choice.

Hope that you do see another reader--an honest one that won't give you the run around. You deserve that much.

:grouphug:

I just hate hearing about professionals acting, well--um...unprofessional. Really bugs me.
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davsand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 10:42 AM
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8. Even if she did pick up something "bad" don't panic.
I dunno, maybe I'm letting too much of my tradition show here, but IMO, many things that are ahead of people are driven by the choices they make. Free will is paramount, and as a reader I will try and inform clients rather than scare them.

If I am looking at a spread and something jumps out at me like an auto accident (I am just pulling this out of nowhere so don't get freaked out) I'll talk to them about being sure to wear seatbelts and making smart choices about who they get in a car with. The LAST thing I'd ever do would be to tell them "You are maybe gonna die with a broken neck in the next 6 months because your drunk buddy is gonna roll the car you are riding in."

The choice to wear a seatbelt can save your life. The choice not to get in a car with your drunk buddy can keep you safe. In that way, as a reader I am able to help people make better choices sometimes and maybe avoid painful or bad things. Usually it is stuff that is not as extreme as the example I gave you just now, and a lot of the time it is a choice that you can make or not.

I always begin a first reading with a discussion of the fact that the reading is based on what we know NOW. Things DO change, and the reading itself might generate those changes. The future is mutable.

Good luck finding a reader that you have a good feeling for. That identification really IS most important.



Laura
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 05:23 PM
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10. Yeah, I know.
And I confess that at the times I wanted my readings done, I was pretty lost. My attitude was less, "tell me what might happen, what's coming through for me, what issues are you getting 'hits' on," and more "tell me what I will do/tell me what to do." But still, her attitude was more like an apprehensive resistance to my request, not a curious "you don't need a reader, you need a life-coach" response.
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ebayfool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 01:49 PM
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11. I've had one, a very dear friend at the time, stop reading for me.
Edited on Thu Dec-08-05 01:52 PM by djmaddox1
Had little to do w/what she was seeing - just when 3 times in a row, when she sat down w/the cards, something horrible would happen to interrupt the session.

A car went out of control & came to a stop within inches of the window we were sitting next to.

A baby fell down the stairs w/a glass bottle in hand & landed at the bottom of the steps which were right at her open front door (apts). The bottle gashed the poor baby's cheek, & had to be rushed to the ER.

Police cornered a suspect, guns drawn & highly tense, in the courtyard directly in view of the above window.

Girlfriend calmly folded the cards, put them down away from us & said "That's it - for whatever reason - you are not meant to get a reading!". We never pushed it again after that, though I have had successful readings w/others over the years since then. However, none were as direct, detailed, or deep as my friend had done before we were blocked!

Could be she is getting some signal that a reading is just not to be done, but not necessarily that she sees something bad coming - just not the right time &/or place?

As an aside - Yay! Finally found a couple bucks to 'retrieve' my poor little misplaced star so I can group post!
LOL!
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Thirtieschild Donating Member (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 10:37 AM
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7. Sometimes you just don't connect
In my own experience you don't connect equally with everyone. Eons ago I practiced astrology professionally. The success of the reading depended on how well our charts connected - my reading was completely uninspired, was strictly out of the book unless I had a conjunction with the other person. I remember a Scorpio whom I couldn't read - no conjunctions, no connections. I finally asked him if he really wanted a reading, that I suspected he chose the one astrologer in the area who couldn't connect with him. Sent him away, unread and uncharged.
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 05:18 PM
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9. Interesting. And I thought it might be about lack of connection.
Or, an awareness that though we connect, it isn't necessarily in a good way. I have (non-psychically) sensed that while she's nice, friendly, and caring, there's some clash between us in an emotional/intellectual contrast.

Your story about the Scorpio is great. Choosing the one reader he didn't connect with? Nothing against all you Scorps out there (I love you the most, even though you're soooo bad for me) but that is so a Scoprio would do.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 02:12 PM
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12. Once.
Edited on Thu Dec-08-05 02:13 PM by Cleita
The guy was such a loser that I knew there was nothing in his future but bad luck, much of it due to his own perfidity, and the cards confirmed this. Actually, it made me stop doing readings for friends and acquaintances from that time on. I concentrate only on political or other figures that I have no personal interaction with now.
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 08:43 PM
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13. ...ouch.
Well, I hope it's not because she's decided I'm a "loser" or that there's too much bad luck in my future for me to be worth a reader's insights about it.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 08:51 PM
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14. I don't think so and I didn't mean to make you feel bad.
I was just being honest about what happened to me. Maybe she sees something she doesn't want to discuss with you. Some people can do it with grace, but some of us can't and prefer not to make a situation worse that may not even happen.

I honestly think that sometimes it's best not to know the possible future because it could influence your choices in life.

I'm sorry for upsetting you.
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 09:14 PM
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15. Okay, I think I've finally got an explanation. It's kinda funny. Kinda.
Edited on Mon Dec-19-05 09:24 PM by BlueIris
I'm pretty sure that the psychic/medium/bookstore owner won't read for me because...her staff found out I'd been going to a Tarot reader that these people don't like. Yup. The whole story is pretty strange. A few weeks ago, while buying sage in their shop, I mentioned something about my reader, whose name is Sharon, and who works out of another store in the same block that Reluctant Psychic's store is on. I don't even remember what I mentioned, it was something about the Albano-Wait Tarot illustrations. R.P. was actually out of the store that afternoon. Her staff went all a-twitter when I mentioned that Sharon and I do such great work together...now (some of you on this forum may recall that at times I've found her kind of rude). Then they told me this bizarre little tale they'd heard from some random woman, who claimed that Sharon basically attacked her on the street outside Sharon's own workplace--by attempting to, if you can believe this, put a "hex" on this person, who subsequently fell off the curb in front of Sharon's store and broke her ankle. Apparently, after the woman got out of the hospital, she searched for witnesses to the incident and what freaked R.P.'s staff out was this woman's assertion that no one saw it.

I politely laughed at these people, and calmly explained that on many occasions, Sharon has lectured me sternly against seeking any kind of vengeance against anyone, trying to hurt people, or basically doing anything else negative to anybody or anything. Because, you know, intentionally hurting others is wrong. I can't imagine Sharon doing anything bad to anyone else on purpose or in any other sense. They didn't believe me! They think my Tarot reader is some kind of scary miscreant. I respectfully told them that they could believe whatever they wanted, but they might want to consider the source of any gossip they heard about any stranger. It occurred to me today that R.P. started acting slightly weird around me after that day, and that her refusal to read for me probably has something to do with her disapproval of my support for my other reader. Which, if I'm right is--insane. And one more reason for me to remember not to ask this person for help again. Just thought I'd share.
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PinkTiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 09:06 PM
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16. I think I understand what the problem is.
Psychic ability is not always there to be turned on or off, and some people I can't read at all. For example, family - can't do it. Friends? Nope. I can do strangers quite well. But when I sense that someone is really fighting demons, and I also sense that they won't listen to what I tell them, my instinct is to not read. Also, some people just aren't receptive. I know it when I look into their eyes. It is very possible that this lady feels nothing when she sees you - nothing in the psychic sense, anyway - and this is why she can't do you. Or maybe she knows you too well.

Once I get to know someone, I no longer trust my instincts. I can't tell where my wishful thinking begins and the truth ends.
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