13 signs instead of 12 - what do we make of this

[2Design]

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/nationworld/wdaf-whats-your-new-sign-shift-in-zodiac-adds-13th-sign-20110113,0,7283824.story

[Howler]

1. Thank Goodness for Rick.

He got us all squared away 2Design.:hi:
Still.. unless you are a professional there is alot of nuance as well as math to astrology that is really complicated and down right confusing.

[Lucinda]

2. I don't use the Sidereal system - most Westerners use tropical I think

I'm sure Rick will have something else to say about it :)

[Ricochet21]

3. Exactly

apples and oranges
I don't know who "released" this confusion. It raises its head every few years and has no validity.

[Lucinda]

6. I am seeing it everywhere this time!

Lotta confused people in my FB friends list :)

[Ricochet21]

4. HERE IS WHAT HAPPENED

Apparently two things got confused (Jupiter conjunct Uranus) and one of those has two parts.
FIRST STORY:

There are 2 different zodiacs. Tropical (Astrology) and Sidereal (Astronomical)
They WERE together 2,000 years ago and will not coincide again until 26,500


SECOND STORY:
Ophiucus is called the "13th CONSTELLATION" that lies between Scorpio and Sagittarius. And, it overlaps each. Some "astrologers" have for years tried to INSERT it as a 13th sign.

not
no

not gonna happen, doesn't work. Astrology is a magical system based on the NUMBER 12, 13 doesn't work in this system. The reason it's based on 12 is because, IMHO, 3 x 4 = 12 and the really reliance is upon 3 and 4.

see: http://www.starself.com/newsletter41.html

for my newsletter on Ophiucus

a bunch of stuff stirred up over little :hi:

[Ricochet21]

5. Do you see how Ophiucus overlaps Scorpio and Sag?

Today's "dates" are trying to insert it between 2 real zodiac signs.