Two big dates to watch...

[ricochetastroman]

July 21 and July 30

On the 21st, Saturn goes back into Libra to stay for apprx 28 mos. On the 30th, Mars moves into Libra. On each date, each planet will trigger, once again, the Pluto in Capricorn and Jupiter/Uranus in Aries. I have no idea what will happen physically, but it's likely to be very instrumental - big turning points.

The reason this kind of thing keeps happening and will continue for the next 14 years is that the ERA of Pluto in Capricorn started in 2008 and everytime these transiting triggers add on, such as these two dates in July - things happen.

It will be the same ole same ole theme, cleaning up the old junk. I know, I know, I'm tired of it too, but I thought you might be better off with a heads-up.

Remember, this whole thing is personal, very personal as well as collective.

One things good that is very possible with Saturn, it may cap the well; I hope.

Peace to all :hi:

[catzies]

1. My birthday is the 30th. I've had too may triggers this year so far, thanks anyway!

Can I say no thank you? ;)

Just kidding....thanks for who you are and what you do. :hug:

[ricochetastroman]

2. Sure, you can say no.

Let's all say no and have planets disappear! That would be cool. I wonder what would happen then. We just want happy planets, right?

:hi:

[stellanoir]

3. In as much as I rarely ascribe to the dualistic benefic/malefic shtick

a colleague of mine who is a western astro chick had her Vedic chart analyzed years ago and she came back all happy and saying, "all my bad aspects disappeared."

Poof.

Totally cracked me up.

I concur with you as to those triggers though.

Pass the popcorn please.

[ricochetastroman]

5. Yes, "bad" aspects are a mental framework

good for her. We have challenges, but think of how amazing we're gonna be after we whup em :hi:

I'll have a Coke

[catzies]

8. That is funny!

:popcorn: Here you go, popped fresh this morning. :)

[Dora]

4. Interesting!

I have a friend who is leading a shamanic women's healing circle on the 21st, and I'm attending. How opportune that she selected this date. I have no idea what to expect, but I'm looking forward to it even more now.

[ricochetastroman]

7. As Saturn faces off the other planets

there is no way to predict it. It will be facing Uranus in Jupiter in Aries. All of these new "revolutions" we have started on 5/27
will need to be tempered; i.e., face the test of reality.

Then, the big one, Saturn squaring Pluto, on and off for 2 years or so. That's the whole new regulation movement, controlling the bastards the stole/steal our money and health, etc. :hi:

[Delphinus]

9. So,

you're saying that those who are harming us will be stopped? Or at least reigned in? (Saturn squaring Pluto)

[ricochetastroman]

11. Absolutely not

That's not what I'm saying. It is confusing. Saturn square Pluto means hundreds of things. It marks a time of grave turning points. One of the things is that Saturn tries to corral things and make them work. One way is USA trying to stand up to BP, etc.
Other ways mean that Saturn is trying to "calm down" the destructive energies of Pluto. There are so many ways to talk about it.

There is no "will be stopped" because we are the energy that can stop it as well as the energy that needs to be stopped.
Hopefully, "they" will be stopped but its really us fixing what is wrong with us (our own corruption). It is a mass thing, a collective must fix. As you can easily see, the Shit has hit the fan. We knew it was coming; we just kept putting it off.

With Saturn (which stands little chance against mightly Pluto) trying to affect Pluto, their influences will go back and forth.
Saturn will TRY to stop the destructive energies of Pluto, but THERE IS NO Saturn, it's the Saturn (common sense, realism) within us: that's what Saturn is - the SENSE of facing facts and fixing it. I hope that clarifies this somewhat as I know it's very hard to explain.

No magic energy is going to come from somewhere and fix anything. Saturn symbolically reflects the feeling that has been shifting inside of us for some time: that we need to face our pile of crap and clean it up. It's also, paying the bills that we let pile up for years while Pluto was in Sag from 1995-2007.

The showdown between these two grim planets is what is making the world seem so heavy right now. It would be silly for me to continue on this vein without pointing you to the master on the subject, astrologer Richard Tarnas and the article below.
During 9/11 Saturn opposed Pluto. A similar transit as the square now. I refer you to an article Tarnas wrote days after 9/11; the theme couldn't be more true now. He describes at least 30 descriptions of the archetypal combination of Saturn and Pluto in this article. http://www.gaiamind.org/WTCNotes.html

:hi:

[Hestia]

15. I don't see it as nefarious, Saturn is exhalted in Libra, and it appears the message

will be "we" "us" vs "me". I think it will be a hard realization that we are all in this together but it is time we woke up and work together to solve problems, rather than fight.

[ricochetastroman]

16. You are exactly right

Even though Saturn is exalted, the real pressure is the triangle, the tsquare between Jupiter/Uranus opposite Saturn and all at right angles to Pluto. Like 3 tight guitar strings, MARS, on the 30th will add its pressure. Mars is a trigger and even though it will be coming out of Libra, it will still be martian like, which means it's an instigator. IT WANTS TO SEE ACTION.


It's very likely to be agitating, but in the long run, will be knocking loose more crap that needs broken up; that's how I see it.
That's why we're having all these nuclear talks.

I think that if we get into early Aug, the well cap will hold. I said that I thought that the Saturn opp. might stop it; and it looks like it will. It isn't over until after Mars passes.

You are right on about the working together, Mars will agitate more stuff that will have to be dealt with. This will be felt inside most of us too. Best of luck to all
:hi:

[get the red out]

6. July 21 is the day after my b-day

Don't know what that means, if anything.

[OneGrassRoot]

10. Jumping in to give you a hug...

'cause you're on my mind so much.

:hug:

[get the red out]

12. Thank you

I am doing better. Grief is what it is, the new puppy helps :)

[OneGrassRoot]

13. Yes ma'am...it's a process

One I'm sorry anyone has to go through. :(

I am so glad to see puppy is helping...what a gift she is.

:hug:

[teenagebambam]

14. So....

...I'm having a civil marriage on the 29th, and a blessing ceremony on the 31st. Sounds like it will be a memorable weekend!