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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 04:10 PM
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Intention, focus and emotion in the manifestation process
Many of us have tried to manifest things into our lives with mixed results. Those who are familiar with 'The Secret' were told that emotion was an important part of the manifestation process. However, I attended a workshop this weekend where it was taught that emotion distorts things when we're trying to manifest things. Intention and strong, laser-sharp focus are extremely important, but emotion shouldn't be employed. In fact, you should try to keep emotion out of the process as much as possible.

I haven't tried playing with this myself so I can't give this a yay or a nay based upon my own personal experience, but rather than delay sharing this, I thought that I'd put the information out there for others to try. It's worth giving it a shot if your current manifestation efforts aren't working.

Remember strong intention and focus are absolute requirements, so don't leave these out if you choose to experiment with this.

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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 06:39 PM
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1. this resonates with me, thanx,
It is a matter of focus AND letting go........not a natural combination for lots of folks.
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 10:42 PM
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4. I agree, Celebration. nt
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 09:13 PM
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2. Emotion is good; uncontrolled emotion is bad
In spellwork, passion/deep desire for what you're working toward is a must. Emotion doesn't need to be removed from an intention--far from it. And in fact, as humans, we can't completely squash our emotions--that's not possible. We're not Vulcans! :D But yes, emotions do need to be tempered, kept under control, because out-of-control emotions make the intention go haywire.

My elder used to tell the story of how, as a teenager with raging hormones and a fierce temper, she was able to (unintentionally) whip up thunderstorms when she was really angry about something. Granted, that's an extreme example, but it's indicative of what we're capable of when we don't deal with our emotions in a positive, "proactive" (hate that word) way.

The most important thing is to be in touch with every aspect of your being--the good parts and the not-so-good parts--and know how to handle your emotions, quirks, neuroses (hey, we all have 'em), and other personality traits that might get in the way of manifesting something properly.

And, of course, the disclaimer "for the good of all and the free will of all with harm to none" or something similar is always helpful to defuse anything we've let get the better of us that creeps into our intention.
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 10:41 PM
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3. I think that most people aren't able to control their emotions at all.
Therefore, until they (including me) can learn to do that, it's important to stay in balance. The easiest way to do this is to try to keep emotion out of the picture in reference to manifestation.

However, maybe what was taught was not true. I can just say that I personally resonate with it. I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that I'm much more effective in the world when I'm walking the middle path. This certainly doesn't mean to not have emotions though.

I'll see over time, I guess, once I get around to giving it a good effort. :D

As always, thanks for the input, MG. :hug:

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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 07:34 AM
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6. LOL and I don't think most people are able to remove emotions from the equations at all
It is VERY important to stay in balance. That's why we're taught never to manifest while angry--nasty things can result (see: in The Once and Future King, the scene where Merlin gets angry and shouts "Castor and Pollux blow me to Bermuda!" and POOF he's gone :rofl: ). Likewise, if we have too much irrational positive emotion invested in something we want, we'll manifest incorrectly and end up miserable (see: King Midas).

I think we agree at heart, Dream, but I'm quibbling over the implication that we can remove emotions from intention entirely. That's the part I don't think is possible. But establishing an even keel before working toward a goal--that's definitely important. :hi:
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 08:13 AM
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7. Yes, I think that we agree, MG. :o)
I need to look into it more to understand the nuances. By the way, to anyone who is interested in trying it, this method is from Alice Bailey's Theosophical works, so it's not recent New Age stuff.

I think that the big thing is that 'The Secret' says that we should try to feel the emotions. That's a big difference!

As I said, I haven't tried it yet, but I'm looking forward to doing so.

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hermetic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 06:10 AM
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5. My .02
If you didn't have some emotion about something, why would you want to manifest it? If I didn't like the color red or wearing hats, why would I want to manifest a red hat?

My experience is that the hardest part of manifesting is the letting it go part. 'Cause if you have an emotion about something then it's really hard to let go of it.

And therein lies the whole dichotomy of the process.

Just sayin'.

:hi:
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 08:15 AM
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8. Yes, there will always be emotion involved in our decision as to what to manifest.
The difference is whether to use the emotion as part of the manifestation process itself. 'The Secret' says that it's important to use it; this approach says that it's important to try not to add it to the mix.

As I said, I haven't tried it yet. :) Thanks, hermetic!

:hi:

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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 08:40 AM
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11. it is a matter of trust, I feel
Sometimes we want to manifest certain things which are not in our best interest, for whatever reason. If we truly trust the universe, we accept the result or non-result of our manifestations with the same emotion--eg, "oh good, I am glad it was best for me to manifest thus and such", and "oh, good, I am glad the universe is looking out for my best interests in not manifesting my intentions at this time."

Anyway, that works for me.

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Kookaburra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 08:34 AM
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9. Here lately I've been manifesting pretty quickly, but
only the stuff I'm passionate about. My point is there has been a good deal of emotion behind the manifestations.

Just my own personal experience.
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 08:39 AM
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10. Very interesting!
Thank you for sharing this, Kookaburra. :)

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Kookaburra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 08:54 AM
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12. Really don't know how it all works, but
Edited on Thu May-06-10 09:02 AM by Kookaburra
I know there hasn't been any "negative" emotion behind the manifestations (no hate, no fear, no anger), but in the latest one there was some desperation. You see, I really need a job and have had nothing come through yet -- not even a nibble -- so Tuesday evening I sat down and practically begged the universe to send me something -- if not my permanent job then something to tide me over until I get my permanent job. Yesterday evening I received a call from a recruiter asking if I was available for a 2 month assignment paying about 20% more than I was making at my former job. I, of course, jumped on it, and if everything follows course (keep those fingers crossed folks), I start next Wednesday. It's possible to start sooner if I want to but that would involve rescheduling a lot of appointments (doctor, dentist, brother's P.T.), so it's better to start on Wednesday.

The one before that had just as much emotion behind it -- missing a friend and really needing to hear from him, and voila: he called 10 minutes later.


(edited for typos -- this Mercury retro thing is totally messing with my ability to type)


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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 02:26 PM
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13. The Secret comes from The Master Key System
which IIRC indeed does not recommend emotion as part of the process, but a clear, still mind being an absolute in the process. I highly recommend The Master Key System to all interested in this phenomenon. Also, using the mental screen, clearly imagining that for which you wish, and visualizing a red circle around it. This fixes things in the mind. You may also if able, to turn the third eye upon the mental screen image.

I am also reminded of a story in Muktananda's "Mystery of the Mind", where a man sits beneath a wish-fulfilling tree, not knowing it to be that. His thoughts set off in search of stimulating content and he comes up with that he'd be happy if he had a beautiful girlfriend. Pop, there she is. But now he thinks, I have to have a mansion in which we may live. Pop, there it is, and in they move. This continues until he suddenly has the thought that this all could only be the work of a demon. Pop, there it is. "He will eat me up!" he thinks, and pop, into the demon's mouth he went.

"Monsters...from the Id!" -Forbidden Planet.
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