Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Need book & site suggestions on building Linux puter, for Christmas.

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » DU Groups » Computers & Internet » Computer Help and Support Group Donate to DU
 
dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 02:38 PM
Original message
Need book & site suggestions on building Linux puter, for Christmas.
I wanna get some books/sites for Mr. D. who wants to build us a couple of Linux puters.

He is very skilled at building computers but has set 'puter stuff aside for the last 4 years,
busy in the woodworking shop since we moved.
And he refuses to go past Windows 98, since Gates is forcing constant upgrades in OS.
Firefox is as far as we have gone.
Mac is not his cup of tea.

So, any good x-mas gifts and/or site suggestions I can gather for a very very intelligent guy who needs updating on what the latest Linus models can do nowdays?
tips and tricks also would be nice.

Or
Any warnings about why we should NOT go Linux?


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 04:11 PM
Response to Original message
1. Best thing would be to download a Live CD
of different versions, Burn them and run them on the computer without actually installing them.
Ubuntu is fairly easy and straight forward.
http://www.ubuntu.com/
Mandriva is pretty good
http://www.mandriva.com/en/product/mandriva-linux-one
SuSe
http://software.opensuse.org/
There are others. Just search the web.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 04:11 PM
Response to Original message
2. Hrrrmmm ...
Up front, I'll address the last question. This is a long piece, but you might want to familiarize yourself with it. It's legendary anyway. Linux is not Windows.

IMO, the only reasons to avoid Linux are these:

1) You are addicted to high-end games. If you're still using '98, I doubt that's the case.

2) You have some need for specific, proprietary software that you need to run at maximum efficiency with no professional technical support, e.g. a CAD system.

3) You aren't willing to learn a new way of doing things.

The last element is usually the show stopper for most folks. Linux is different. There's a lot of layered stuff on top of it to help the transition from Windows, but the bottom line is they are not they same (thank gopod), and they won't be. This is often what throws people. There will be a learning curve.

The physical building of a computer for Linux is no different than one for Windows. The only real thing you need to watch out for is hardware that isn't supported for Linux, which isn't a great lot these days really. In fact, Linux tends to deal with older hardware better than Windows does 'cause drivers are sometimes hard to find for those older things.

If you're thinking of building new from scratch, it's fairly simple as far as the base system is concerned. Motherboard, CPU, hard drive, optical drive, graphics card ... it's actually difficult to find one that doesn't work with Linux now.

The challenge is sometimes in the peripherals, e.g. wireless networking, printers, scanners, etc. My general strategy there is to go to NewEgg or some similar place and search reviews of hardware for the word "Linux" and see what has been said. Naturally that strategy works better for products that have lots of reviews. And, with all of it, if you're not afraid of looking for an answer in the Internet wilderness, you'll generally find a solution.

My advice for a gift would be to decide on a distribution for a beginner system. For that I'd suggest either Ubuntu, SuSE, or Mandriva. They'll all work, and I suggest them because of the vastness of documentation and online support groups for newbies as well as printed books that deal with them. (There's also Fedora/Red Hat, but I have had show-stopper problems with it and so don't recommend it to those new to Linux.) Then, order the disc/box set from the organization that distributes it. Note that you don't have to do this; you can just download it and burn it to a disc. But for a gift, it's nice for aesthetic reasons since the disc is customized. Plus, at least with SuSE, you can get a book.

Then, get the most recent version of the Linux Bible. It has reference material and lots of information for several different distros (SuSE, Ubuntu, et al are Linux distributions or distros).

Some websites:

http://distrowatch.com/

http://www.linuxhardware.org/

http://www.linuxquestions.org/

http://www.linuxhelp.net/

Intro to Linux This is for the more hands-on stuff and is generally not distro-specific, e.g. basic Linux commands and such.

Hope that helps.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 04:29 PM
Response to Reply #2
3. My dear RoyGBiv..
Your response is exactly what I needed.
In fact, it is going to be THE gift !
You provided good links, and a key link to the Linux Bible.

the reference to Red Hat was esp. helpful.

Neither of us have the 3 caveats you mentioned above.


Thank you...I am going to e-mail the above to Mr. D. 's puter, and he can take it from there.

Nice present.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PennDem Donating Member (146 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 05:30 PM
Response to Original message
4. Just a thought...
Build or buy a Windows box and experiment with all of the flavors of Linux in a virtual machine environment. You can build them, break them, delete them as often as you like as you learn and maybe replace the Windows install down the road.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Mon May 06th 2024, 03:07 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » DU Groups » Computers & Internet » Computer Help and Support Group Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC