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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 05:38 PM
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Maryland Crab Cake Pasta (Crab cake pasta? Are you nuts?)
Maryland crab cakes are arguably the best in the world. There are as many variations on them as there are crab cake cooks. Secret - even mystical - ingredients abound. Blue haired old ladies have them at tea time. They're sold for a very dear price ($15 per, or more, in places) at raw bars and seafood bars frequented by attorneys standing side by side with sanitation workers. Restaurants in the best part of town fail to sell bad ones, and the seediest dive you can imagine has wait lists when they have a reputation for good ones. The very best crab cakes have no bread or cracker filler. Just mayonnaise and egg as the binder, the seasonings, and jumbo lump crab meat from either the Chesapeake Bay, the North Carolina coast, or Louisiana (all at least $25/lb).

Here's my spin on them .... as a sauce for macaroni. Think of it almost as Alfredo meets Freddy. I made this up a few years ago and have never shared it anywhere or ever seen it made. Only a few guests and family have ever had it. But now I think it may ready for prime time - although it is still a prototype. Call it Version 0.99. So here ya go. I would ask only that anyone who makes this let me know what you think of it .... good or bad.

As for time, this is another sauce you can start at the same time you set your water on the stove. This is a nice, quick meal. Maybe 15 minutes start to finish.

Here's what ya need:


Flour and butter for a roux. I used exactly the amount you see in my butter dish and a commensurate amount of flour ... say three or four tablespoons full. Macaroni - I like Farfalle for this, but you can use any pasta that will hold the sauce and the crab meat. Long macaroni, like linguine, won't work as well. Tabasco, Worcestershire, no salt, no pepper. Not shown here is mustard, but it is in a later picture. Old Bay (a seasoning blend that is the quintessential crab cake seasoning, marketed forever by McCormick's - a Baltimore company, by the way). Clam juice. You could, I suppose, also substitute some white wine for this. Or maybe even sherry, but that's not how I make it ... or at least how I've made this so far. And of course the crab meat. Now .... as I said above, jumbo lump can run upwards of $25 a pound ... or even more. And I've used that for this dish. But this time I used (non jumbo) lump. Smaller pieces, but just as yummy. You could also use back fin or even claw meat. They both taste as good - certainly in a dish like this. But the downside to both back fin and lump is the presence of shell bits. You need to be careful to pick over the meat to get 'em out. They won't hurt you, but picking them out of your teeth at dinner kinda reduces the whole cache of an elegant dish ... yanno? :shrug:


Okay, now make a roux. Melt the butter. Add the flour to it and stir - pretty much constantly. Cook the roux until it juuuuuuust starts to brown at the edges. In the end, you want it to have the color shown in the picture and a consistency of about wet sand.


Add the clam juice - slowly ... a tablespoon at a time at first. The liquid will immediately be absorbed by the roux. Add a bit more.


Keep doing this until the roux/liquid volume has doubled and is nice and smooth. Some people use a whip to mix their roux ... and that's fine. I don't. I just add the cold liquid slowly and stir virtually nonstop for the first minute or three. Once you get about a half bottle of the clam juice in, you can add more at a time. You want a nice thick, smooth sauce. Be careful after you get a whole bottle in. The exact amount of liquid needed depends on the precise volume of your roux, the temperature of the ice atop Mt Fuji, the number of left handed redheads in Dublin .... you get the idea. Just don't add too much. There's no way to thicken a roux based sauce other than making more roux and adding the thin sauce to the new roux ..... just add carefully and in small amounts again when you get close to the viscosity you want and you'll be fine. For this batch, I ended up using 1-1/2 bottles of clam juice. I then drank the leftovers!


Now add the tabasco and Worcestershire to taste. A good amount is 10 drops or so of the tabasco and maybe a tablespoon or two of the Worcestershire. Mix to blend in.


Add some mustard (a classic crab cake ingredient). Say a tablespoon or two ... to taste. I'd avoid American yellow mustard. Use a darker one. Guildens, maybe. For me, however, I really *do* like Grey Poupon!


Add the Old Bay. If you've not worked with this before, taste a bit of it before you use it so you can take a more educated guess at how much to use. It has some (red pepper) bite to it. We like that, so we use a good bit of it. 4 tablespoons, probably. This is also the essential flavor in the dish, so if you prefer things less hot, you may want to omit the tabasco. Try to use a goodly bit of the Old Bay.


Mix it all up and adjust the seasonings as needed. Note ... no need for salt or pepper ... the ingredients (including the crab meat, which is already cooked) have plenty.


Add the crab meat.


Fold it more than stir it so as to keep it as intact as possible. It is kinda fragile ... not totally, but it ain't beef! So just be gentle. This is the completed sauce.


Drain the macaroni. Fold in the sauce and enjoy. I prefer a nice dark beer with this instead of wine. The flavor of this is "big" to say the least. It can stand up to a red wine or a beer. White wine with this seems, to me at least, wimpy next to it, hence my preference for a really dark, thick stout or porter or dark ale.

Again, if ya try this, please lemme have your comments - good or bad.
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The empressof all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 05:47 PM
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1. That looks delish!
I'm gonna try that with some Dungeness Crab. At times we can get it for 2.99 a lb so when it's cheap I'm always looking for new things to do with it. Thanks!
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 05:58 PM
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2. How much crab meat did you use?
I can't seem to find it. This is a "must try" for me. I love crab. We used to go crabbing in Jamaica Bay in Queens. Or just get bunch at the fish market and get the kettle going.

Btw, I think your choice of tee shirt is so funny! Heck - at least get yourself one that says Delmnarva!

We drove around Delmarva many years ago. Camped out at the Cherrystone Campground on the water somewhere in the Chesapeake Bay area. Watched a crab boat catching crab off the shore of some beach while a big family was crabbing off a pier. The thing about the whole Chesapeake is that the air has the sweet fragrance of crab. It's days like this that I miss the east coast so much. thanks a million for your recipe. I'll let you know how it went as soon as I fix it. We even had crab cakes on Christmas Eve last year.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 06:11 PM
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3. Doh! How dumb am I ?????? A pound of crab meat
Edited on Thu Apr-14-05 06:11 PM by Husb2Sparkly
Kind of an essential point, the amount of crab, huh? :blush:
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 06:31 PM
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4. I kinda thought you meant a pound
By the looks of it in the bowl and how you talked about the price per pound. But I wasn't truly sure. No problem. And again - thank you so much Hubs. This is a very special thing for you to do for us, letting us in on your v.99 and with pictures to boot! You won't find a Repudlikin doing something like this. No siree!

We are so grateful, Hubs!!!
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Phentex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 03:16 PM
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12. You want duh? I just scanned the recipe
three times looking for this answer before I scrolled down to see the other responses.

This sounds like a good dish to try. I'll let you know when I make it.
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Lugnut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 10:19 PM
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7. Delmarva
Is our favorite vacation spot. We camped at the state park on Assateague several times back in the 80s. The past few years we've rented a house for a week at Bethany Beach DE. Mikey's in BB has the best crab cake sandwiches I've ever tasted.

I need to stop at the local seafood store to check out the lump crab meat to try this recipe. It looks great and know it tastes great as well.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 12:27 AM
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8. I like to write once in a while
And one of my favorite poems (short) is about that trip on the Delmarva Peninsula. It's here in case you'd like to see it. Just about something we saw there. http://www.incurableart.com/poetrygallery/delmarva.html
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Lugnut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 11:37 PM
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14. That's beautiful
Thank you for sharing it. :)
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 12:29 AM
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15. Thank you
It's been many years since we were there but sometimes I dream about the place. Maybe it's because I took a turn at driving the truck with the camper and came to a sceeching halt at first sight of a crab stand. I think I even scared the crabs when I was backing up! Neeeeeyooooooowwww!

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Lugnut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 11:06 PM
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17. Heh
I tried my hand at the towing the camper thing too. I did great going forward. Going backward was another story. I just couldn't stop making Ls, Vs and even an S or two.
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hippiegranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 06:51 PM
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5. you have very nice hands!
:)

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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 02:40 PM
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11. You mean these old things .... ?
:)
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Beausoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 06:29 PM
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16. I was thinking the very same thing.
Lovely hands.
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Celeborn Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 10:05 PM
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6. That looks great!
I think I have my dinner for tomorrow night, thanks! :9 :D
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 02:10 PM
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9. It sounds very, very good
though as a Chesapeake purist it makes me want to cry because when I look at that bowl of meat I see 3 unborn crab cakes ;) Regardless, you say it's good and your method convinced me so I'll try it soon.

One small suggestion and I really hope you won't mind but a man who knows enough not to break up crab lumps and to use Baleine salt should really check out Maille mustard. I dropped Dijon cold after trying it.

Ok, now off to order some Chesapeake Bay jumbo crab meat. My flat wallet thanks you...

PS. Please tell me you cleaned that stove for these photos. No cook has any right to have a stove that clean!
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 02:40 PM
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10. Hahahaha ... couple of things .......
This in no way replaces crab cakes. It is **in addition** to crab cakes, not instead of them. And while I tend to use lump or jumbo lump, that's only because it is so available here and often on sale. This is an excellent way to use lower cost crab meat. Back fin, for example, often gets mixed with lump for cheaper crab cakes, even in restaurants ... and for even cheaper ones, that's all they use ... no lump at all. Back fin and claw meat go into crab soup, stuffed crab, etc. This use of crab meat is more akin to those items, at least in terms of the specific type of crab meat one can use. Just by way of comparison, where jumbo lump might be $25 per pound, not on sale, claw meat on sale could be well under $5 a pound. When the catch is good locally, claw meat can go to less than $3 and jumbo lump might go down to $15.

In terms of purism ... its kinda the same as the old joke about the rich person's kid .... "Oh no, Mom .... do we haaaaaave to have lobster agaaaaaaiiin?"

Maille mustard, huh? I'll look for it. You say you dropped dijon in favor of this. I found this on the web at surfasonline.dot.com (which simply turned up in a Google search). It leads me to think it is another type of dijon ... not so much different from Grey's as better than Grey's?

Maille: mustard at its finest, based on a recipe dating from Antiquity, founded in 1747 in Marseilles, Maille produces its traditional, flavorful Dijon mustard with the same techniques used by their company for decades. 250 years of mustard-making expertise stand behind the finesse and flavor of this outstanding mustard. It goes brilliantly with all types of food - meat, fish, cooked or raw vegetables - and is a welcome addition to dressings and sauces. Their classic Dijon mustard is great for use with mustard souffle, remoulade sauce, as well as various game dishes.



The stove ... nope, not cleaned up for the pictures. Musta been the lighting (or lack thereof). The stove is all stainless so it is easy enough to keep in pretty good shape with a simple wipedown, but I can assure you it is no cleaner than anyone else's. When I do anything in my wok or do a quick saute item, there's spatter everywhere! Sometimes we clean it and other times it just sorta gets smeared into the corners.

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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 04:49 PM
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13. Lol!
In addition to? What a meal! I just clicked on your profile and understood everything. I should have guessed you were in the Chesapeake area you lucky, lucky devils! Hat's off to you, you know your crab! She-crab claw soup too I'll bet!

The thing about Maille is that, unlike Grey Poupon, Maille is authentic French, I mean really, truly made in France and that they've been in the business for 250 years. It's truly a fine, fine mustard. Honestly, I would have never known. I had to marry a French guy, grandson of the head cook at the French Presidents' Summer Retreat, to find out these type of things. The first time I met him, over his first meal in the US, at my house, not being a mustard fan I pulled out Grey Poupon and well, I heard about it later; he wanted to know what kind of an imitation I was trying to pawn off on an unsuspecting public. I checked the jar and blushed - made by Nabisco, somewhere in the US. Honestly, try Maille- the taste is zippier and it doesn't have that slight after-taste. Let me know what you think. I rarely saw anything other than Maille on French dinner tables in the Southwest :shrug:

I'm not a big mustard fan and I could tell the difference but I think for cooking Grey Poupon is fine. Just had to tease you because I was so impressed the other day when I saw the Baleine salt.

Check out some mustard hints from the Maille website. I never saw their site before until now...

    To vary the taste of your pizzas, savoury tarts and quiches, coat the pastry with 4 tablespoons of Traditional Mustard.
    * To give more taste and colour to grilled poultry, coat it with two tablespoons of Traditional Mustard before putting it in the oven. It will make it tender and golden.
    * Coat pork chops with Maille Tarragon Mustard a few hours before grilling them, they will stay tender and have a delicious flavour
    * Enhance the flavour of peas by eating them with a teaspoon of Maille Fine Dijon Mustard on your plate.
    * To prepare an ideal sauce to accompany red meat, mix a teaspoon of Maille traditional mustard with a tablespoon of low-fat crème fraîche.
    * As an accompaniment to raw vegetables or cold meat, mix 1 pot of natural yoghurt with 1 teaspoon of Maille Traditional Mustard, a little curry powder, chopped chives and 1 spoon of balsamic vinegar. Feel free to vary the quantities to your taste!
    * To make chicken breast or turkey less dry, add a sauce made with Maille Dijon Mustard, hot water and slices of gherkin.



http://www.maille.com/maille/en/CustomPage.aspx?TopElement=TopElementDefault&MiddleElement=Home&BottomElement=NavigationHome

And I'm still jealous about the stove. Mine only looks like that AFTER I've cleaned and scrubbed- in other words, once a week ;)
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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 10:20 AM
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18. sounds fantastic!!!
Would you also have a good recipe for the actual crab cakes?

:9
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 02:04 PM
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19. Here's a link to a site with a recipe
The recipe is from a local Baltimore restaurant, Angelina's. A prototypical converted rowhouse neighborhood place.



It was, when I used to go there, a really nice neighborhood kinda place. Looks like (from their web site, anyway) they've gone a little sheshee/frufru. We used to go there many years ago when we lived in that part of town. Their crab cakes were always excellent. I haven't been there in years, but when we first moved to Baltimore (1979), I hired one of the guys who had worked there. Being new to Baltimore, I asked him how they made crab cakes. He gave me what is essentially this recipe. But he said I should not use the bread; that classic crab cakes don't have any. I'm sure purists can argue that all day long, but now, all these years later, I still don't use any. But lots of people I know do. The amount in this recipe is quite minimal, and, in or out, it probably doesn't make a whole lot of difference. Just one of those mystical things that surround so many regional, authentic recipes.

Another thing is the seasoning. They suggest salt and pepper, with Old Bay as an option. I suggest Old Bay as a standard, and salt and pepper as unnecessary. Again, one of those things that can be argued all day. Most natives I know use the Old Bay and no salt and pepper. They also show the mustard and worcestershire as options. I'm here to tell you, any self-respecting baltimoron (said with affection) will not eat a crab cake that omits these. Interestingly, my recollection of the crab cakes I've had there all include the mustard and worcestershire ... and the menu on line doesn't have the option for one way or the other ..... maybe its a way to get your crab cakes to be inferior to theirs so you'll buy theirs! (I really doubt that, butcha never know.)

So with all that criticism of the recipe, here ya go. I point to this one because they do an excellent job of describing not only ingredients, but the process and the mark of a good crab cake. Use this as a starting place and then have fun!

http://www.crabcake.com/crabcakes.php
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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 03:42 PM
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20. Thank you!!! I may just try that this weekend! (nt)
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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 11:09 AM
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21. I made the crab cakes this weekend!
They were excellent! They didn't hold together too wonderfully, but only broke in half. I am wondering if maybe it's because I used Egg Beaters instead of real egg. Anyway, thanks for the recipe! It was very good:-)
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 01:12 PM
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22. Glad you liked them! But now you gotta try this pasta recipe. As to the
crab cakes breaking, I'd bet it *was* the egg beaters. Another reason they could break is if, in total, you have things too wet. A little extra worcestershire, even too much mooseturd, when combined with everything else could dilute the egg enough that it no longer works like a good "glue". Also, the crab meat may have been wetter than it might have been. Sometimes it needs to be squeezed (gently, gently, gently) to get the excess water out.

If you're doing the pasta, none of this is an issue ... just for crab cakes. I dare say all crab cake recipes that have been around for a while assume fresh crab meat, which is far drier than frozen.
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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 11:44 AM
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23. I made the crabcakes again this weekend...
this time, I used a real egg, and just a little bit of breadcrumbs... about 1/3 of what the recipe called for. They turned out great! Stuck together just fine, and the breadcrumbs were not really even noticeable.

I mean, they tasted as good as any I have had in a restaurant! So, thanks again for providing the recipe!!!

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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 12:14 PM
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24. Yup ..... I'll betcha the eggs were the difference
The albumin in real egg whites acts a sort of glue to hold everything together. Heat (cooking) activates it.
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