Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Cast iron experts

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » DU Groups » Home & Family » Cooking & Baking Group Donate to DU
 
mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 05:44 PM
Original message
Cast iron experts
I inherted 3 cast iron pans from my Grandma. The Wagner I am familiar with (it is a beauty)

And there is one I am completely unfamiliar with. It is hammered like this one:



With what looks like a makers mark on the underside of the handle:



It is a beauty! I made eggs in it tonight, and am curious as to its maker. I am not having any real success with the Google, other than a single teeny weeny skillet even that owner knows nothing about.

Any cast experts, please chime in! I am simply satisfying my curiosity.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 05:52 PM
Response to Original message
1. could it be not "cast" but actually hand made?
it looks like it was hand-hammered. And the maker's mark is another clue. I have no idea how old it would have to be to be handmade but I'd guess quite old.

I have a cast iron griddle that my great-grandmother, grandmother and mother used--which would have to have been made around 1890. But that was manufactured; yours could pre-date it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 05:58 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. I don't know on that, that would be a fun fact for this skillet
there is zero other identification on it, no stamp on the back, nothing, no manufacture mark except for the #10 on the handle top, and it looks like it was struck as opposed to stamped.

and it has a beautiful cooking finish, just amazing.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 12:28 AM
Response to Original message
3. Blacksmiths made iron skillets for hundreds of years, and...
this might be one of them. Cast iron is too brittle to forge, unless there's a secret I don't know, but wrought iron would certainly make a perfectly good pot or skillet.

How old it is is anyone's guess, but if there's a museum or historical society near you, they might look at it and give you some hints.



Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 04:27 AM
Response to Reply #3
4. Thanks, I used "cast" iron as a generic
maybe now I ought to refine my google search, remove a word, and use some different terms and phrases.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 10:22 AM
Response to Original message
5. I have no hints or info at all, but that must be one of the most unusual skillets
I have ever seen. I'd love to see a picture that shows the entire piece. Be sure to let us know if you find out anything on it. How intriguing.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 05:58 PM
Response to Reply #5
12. Yarg, I have misplaced my USB cable for my camera
So I will post this weekend once I replce it (of course I will find it after I replace it)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
yy4me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 12:08 PM
Response to Original message
6. You might find some info on this site:


http://www.wag-society.org/index.php


I think yours is a casting. If I saw a rolled edge or straight edge, maybe it could be forged. As I look at your photo's, I'm 100% sure it is cast iron. Great pan, it looks about 3 or 4" deep. Could be a chicken fryer. Nothing better to cook in.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 12:48 PM
Response to Reply #6
7. In the top picture, a turned over edge is visible
and extends around the pour spout. The pan looks like it was hammered out of sheet steel with a cast handle welded on. It looks like something a local smith might have made when the store bought pan wore out.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
yy4me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 01:51 PM
Response to Reply #7
9. If that pan was made by hand it must have taken weeks. It seems
pretty heavy guage. As to the edge, it seems too square to be a forging plus, if it was soldered, wouldn't you run the risk of melting the solder under extreme heat?

I have seen pictures of hammered aluminum but not of iron. Whatever it is, it's a great pan.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 02:01 PM
Response to Reply #9
10. Here's a contemporary example
http://www.williams-sonoma.com/products/6351969/index.cfm?clg=79&bnrid=3213101&cm_ven=Shopping&cm_cat=Shopzilla&cm_pla=default&cm_ite=default

Hand hammered woks are still being produced, also, as are hand hammered steel drums for Caribbean bands. The process doesn't take as long as you think it does.

It's the crudeness of the pan in the OP that makes me think a local blacksmith must've banged it out.

BTW, melting solder is actually the point. Welding is done under extreme heat and is a more permanent joint than soldering provides.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
yy4me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 02:34 PM
Response to Reply #10
11. You are right about welding being stronger than solder.
Whatever the pan is, it's great. And...as for Williams-Sonoma...that is where I go to dream...and buy Wenol and the Amish popcorn. Can't afford much else there but the merchandise is beautiful.

The cookware you linked to is amazing. Would look funny in my 200 year old house but I can certainly appreciate it.

One of the reasons I love cast iron so much is not just it's cooking qualities but also, it looks right at home hanging in my kitchen fireplace.

It is, however, the noisiest stuff on the planet. I use one pan or another almost every day and I nest them in the stove drawer. What a racket getting them in and out.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 08:41 PM
Response to Reply #11
15. What I really really really want is one of these
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 07:05 PM
Response to Reply #10
14. The "hammered" effect on the sides is very regular, like a pattern
none on the bottom, handle or inside of the pan, and also none on the BOTTOM of the pan
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
yy4me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 01:47 PM
Response to Original message
8. Tried to search more about your pan. Could not find what I was
looking for but I found this site that has a great deal of Info about Cast Iron.

http://whatscookingamerica.net/Information/CastIronPans.htm
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 06:01 PM
Response to Original message
13. I have some MUCH better photos on the camera
Edited on Thu Jul-23-09 06:01 PM by mtnester
unfortunately, I have misplaced ny USB cable. I will post them this weekend

I am on a mission on this, and I thank you all for the links and info. The pan itself is about as deep as an average size roma tomato stood on end, and really only has room inside for two eggs..so frying chicken is out, unless I do 1-2 pieces at a time.

It is lovely, and feels great in my hand, and I will for sure post good pics this weekend (see my post upthread about probably finding the USB card after I replace it)

:)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Lorax Donating Member (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 11:20 AM
Response to Original message
16. I don't know
I don't know but I am jealous. It looks like a beauty.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 02:45 PM
Response to Original message
17. Well, it appears some douchebag from conservative cave is fascinated by my question and hates
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 01:26 PM
Response to Reply #17
18. Well, aren't they cute? It looks like their hobby is hanging out at DU
looking for things to make fun of. How original. Sounds to me that someone needs to get out more or at least develop some other interests.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
yy4me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 02:51 PM
Response to Reply #17
19. PLease folks, read this whole link, its priceless. Antiques and
ebay folks need to see it too. Too funny! Several Gotcha's toward the end and I thank them.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Sat May 04th 2024, 02:39 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » DU Groups » Home & Family » Cooking & Baking Group Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC