Hey, I'm going to Whole Paycheck!

[The empressof all]

I rarely go there because it's a haul but I want to try the AnyWhey sugar substitute and they are the only ones around who carry it. I'm even gonna "cheat" on my food plan and have a gelato! :wow:

I'm gonna see if they have AnyWhey for IceCream....so get those fingers ready to help me google the sugar free Ice cream recipe's I'm determined to make a sugar free/fat free frozen conconction. Maybe using greek yogurt!

[Phentex]

1. That's a dangerous place...

so many curiosities...not enough time OR money!

How does the AnyWhey differ from other subs?

[The empressof all]

2. I got the name wrong....It's called Whey low

and their web site lied. My WF didn't carry it. I'm ordering from the web site though. I'm getting the granulated D and the ice cream one. I don't know for sure how it is but friends of mine swear it's the best substitute out there for baking.

http://www.wheylow.com/

[yy4me]

3. Great name and appropriate. I have gone there lately only to

buy Dr Bronner's soaps, recommended by the fine folks of DU. Other than that, I'd starve first before I pay their prices. I can't figure them out. There are to large grocery stores very close to WF and it is easy to comparison shop. Everyone I know says about the same thing,"nice store but too expensive". I guess they don't care.

If they were more competitive, I'd shop there but the difference is huge and my budget isn't.

[whatwasthequestion]

4. Dr. Bronner Pure Castile soap

My Peace Corp Art teacher in High school turned me on to this (and the Sierra Club) for minimalist camping, because you can use it for everything.In a pinch, I've even used it for toothpaste. A bottle of the peppermint scented is on the kitchen counter right now to make the disposal smell sweet. Also, been using it in a hot washcloth for a stye on my left eyelid. Just a touch, though; do not want the stuff in my eye.

[Tab]

5. An unusual and quirky soap, that.

I bought a few bars probably in the early 1990's, based on the wrapper alone.

From a 1988 article...

Enclosed for your enjoyment is a bottle of "Doctor Bronner's 18-in-1 Pure Castile Soap," which you can get at any health food store. The soap is great, but you'll note the label is crammed with weird religious ravings. What's the poop, Scoop? Is Doctor B. really a "master chemist and Essene rabbi"? What's the story behind his company, All-One-God-Faith, Inc.? And--this one is urgent, Cece--how about the unusual birth control method Dr. B. recommends? Should I throw out my diaphragm and stock up on lemons and Vaseline?

— Sourpuss, Chicago



Dear Sourpuss:

Not unless you like unusually thick lemonade. As you can probably tell from the copy (can you imagine a slogan like, "Eternal Father, Eternal One! Exceptions eternally? Absolute none!" on the side of a Tide box?), "Dr." Emanuel H. Bronner is inhabiting a different plane of being from the rest of us. So don't take anything he says too literally.

Bronner is an 85-year old (as of 1993) German immigrant who hangs out in Escondido, California. He's not an MD or strictly speaking a rabbi, but claims he's got the equivalent of a PhD in chemistry, which I guess makes him a master chemist. He's also not your average soap maker. Whereas Messrs. Procter and Gamble dream (well, dreamt) of enzymes and long-chain fatty acids, Bronner dreams of world peace.

Bronner wants to convince mankind of the virtues of the "All-One-God-Faith," which, together with the "Moral ABC," his answer to the Ten Commandments, will unite the human race. The details of this can be a bit hard to follow. For example: "Replace half-true Socialist-fluoride poison & tax-slavery with full-truth, work-speech-press & profitsharing Socialaction! All-One! So, help build 4 billion Hannibal wind-power plants, charging 96 billion battery-banks, powering every car-factory-farm-home-monorail & pump, watering Babylon-roof-gardens & 800 billion Israel-Milorganite fruit trees, guarded by Swiss 6000 year Universal Military Training," etc.

Talking to the doc on the phone is the audio equivalent of reading one of his labels. He can be pretty linear when he wants to be, but eventually always veers off into a rap about the Essene rabbis and whatnot, delivered in a nutty-professor German accent. Believe me, it's an experience.

Bronner has had an eventful life. The son of a Jewish German soap maker, he emigrated to the U.S. and pleaded with his father to do the same when the Nazis came to power. The old man refused. One day Bronner got a postcard with the words, "You were right. --Your loving father." He never heard from his parents again.

Initially settling in the midwest, Bronner married the illegitimate daughter of a nun, who eventually became suicidal and died in a mental hospital. (He says she was tortured by the hospital guards.) He also began devising his plan for world peace. Fittingly, he took to the soapbox to promote it. One of his listeners, Fred Walcher, was so inspired that in 1945 he had himself crucified in Chicago in order to publicize the plan. (He survived.)

Later Bronner was arrested while trying to promote his plan at the University of Chicago and was committed to a mental hospital. He escaped three times, finally fleeing to California in 1947. He's been there cranking out soap and soap labels ever since.

Despite his eccentricities, Dr. Bronner has built his soap company into a prosperous concern, mostly by sheer force of personality. In the early days he would set up a table at health food conventions. If a dealer strayed within ten feet, Bronner would pounce and not let go until he'd gotten an order.

But things didn't really take off until he was discovered by the counterculture during the 60s. With the aid of his sons Jim and Ralph, who handle production and sales, he currently sells some 400,000 gallons of liquid soap and 600,000 pounds of bar soap a year. He says he's now worth $6 million--not bad, he notes drily, for somebody who's supposedly nuts.

Bronner's birth control method involves using lemon juice and Vaseline as a spermicide. While it's true the high acidity in lemon juice will kill sperm, doctors say it could also cause your insides to become irritated or burned. Besides, Vaseline isn't water soluble. You'd be clogging up your insides and wreaking God knows what kind of havoc. With all respect to Bronner, I'd advise sticking to diaphragms.

[elleng]

6. Hey Tab!

Could use THAT label like cereal box at breakfast table, but might miss the bus!!!

How are you?

:hi:

[Tab]

7. Ah, on a rare visit

Chemo starts up again in a few days, heavier than the first time around, having some personal issues to deal with post-surgery, so not feeling too social.

I occasionally will pop something into LBN but that's about it. Had to pitch in what I knew about Dr. Bronner's soap, though.

[elleng]

8. Glad you did pitch in,

and will try to help you thru upcoming issues.

:hug:

[whatwasthequestion]

9. Yeah, I did a search

Probably a year ago and found that he-the Dr.-spent his final days in Escondido. That is about mid San Diego county and I live all the way in the most northern area-Village of Fallbrook-karma, no?

[kentauros]

12. I bought the bottle of Peppermint Liquid Castille Soap

based on the label alone, but learned about it through the Church of the SubGenius' book High Weirdness by Mail and I've been using it as my "body wash" for the last twenty years. Great stuff! :D

[The empressof all]

10. I saw a documentary about him on one of the cable channels

It was several years ago but probably gets replayed every once in a while. Of course I don't remember the name of it but he was a character! His kids still run the company.

[eleny]

11. I love their ground turkey thigh meat

It doesn't have the skin in there so it's less fatty and oh so tasty. The burgers chew like a beef burger, almost. We love 'em.

[The empressof all]

13. I have bought the turkey before.

I use it to make teriyaki meat balls. I mix it with some panko, garlic, ginger, Sri Racha, Sambal and green onions. Bake them up and throw them into some Yoshida's Gourmet sauce that's been reduced with pineapple juice. I also throw the pineapple in to the sauce too. It's one of my daughters favorite meals ---Sweet and Spicy.

[eleny]

14. Wow! I don't know some of those ingredients but it still sounds so good