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spinbaby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 07:17 PM
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So, is salmonella in eggs no longer a problem?
This weekend I watched Martha Stewart make egg nog with a dozen raw eggs in it and no mention of pasteurized eggs. Is salmonella not a problem anymore? Does all that bourbon and rum kill off the salmonella? Is Martha just clueless?

I like a good meringue pie topping, but I'm afraid to make it nowadays because of the salmonella warnings.


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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 07:30 PM
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1. I will never trust a raw egg again unless it is specifically labeled pasteurized...
Perhaps others have more recent information, but Martha seems to have cluelessly omitted some data.

Hekate


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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 08:23 PM
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2. The salmonella, if it is there, is on the shell
Cracking the egg quickly contaminates the egg. Washing the shell before cracking should be all one needs to do.
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hippywife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 08:56 PM
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3. I guess I should be a little more careful.
We have our own eggs and the shells are never dirty it seems, like no chicken poop or whatever. I know you're supposed to but I haven't been washing them, just cracking them. So far no problems but never hurts to take care.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 09:57 PM
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7. Your own homegrown eggs are very low risk as your hens are unlikely to
be infected. The current Salmonella problem in eggs is pretty much a product of industrialized agricultural practices. Factory farms.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 09:56 PM
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6. Nope. The eggs get infected by the hen before they are laid.
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wakemeupwhenitsover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 09:11 PM
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4. Years ago, I watched in episode of Martha and a viewer
wrote in and asked about salmonella since Martha uses raw eggs in so many of her recipes. Martha responded that she'd had her chickens for years and they didn't have salmonella.

Bully for you Martha. What about the rest of us who buy our eggs at the store?
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:46 PM
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10. she probably has houses full of fancy breeds of chickens


hell her chickens probably have their own planes!


:rofl:

:hi: wakeme, how are ya?
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wakemeupwhenitsover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 01:38 PM
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12. Doing great sweetie.
How are you? Miss you! :hug:
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 04:29 PM
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13. good - kid is huge and has great grades, husband is doing well
work is a little slow, so more time for reading, decorating and a little R and R.


:hug:



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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 09:27 PM
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5. Restaurant reviewer in our area constantly complains when she orders rare or medium rare hamburgers
and she gets them overcooked. It's like she's completely unaware that you're not supposed to be able to get rare or medium rare hamburgers in a restaurant nowadays due to E-coli - it's completely against health department regulations almost everywhere uniformly. Most menus even state this right on them.

I pay a lot more attention when she actually succeeds in getting one, because then I know what restaurant is clueless.
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Retrograde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 06:40 PM
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8. a local restaurant still serves steak tartare
yes, raw. If the place buys good quality meat and handles it properly I doubt it's any more dangerous than anything else coming out of its kitchen. I wouldn't trust it at a large chain restaurant, but I've never had problems with the small place. I'd say the restaurant is not so much clueless as confident of its sources and techniques. (And yes, it is more expensive than a cooked burger.)

Back to eggnog: I make mine with a dozen raw eggs and enough alcohol to sterilize a small clinic. It takes about a month to mellow enough to be drinkable, in small quantities, since it has a month's worth of cholesterol - about half of what the original recipe called for!
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 08:28 PM
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9. The issue with hamburger meat is that 99 out of 100 places are not
grinding your burger meat to order from one piece of meat.Bulk hamburger is ground from many individual pieces of meat which is why the issue lies with hamburger and not steak. It is the SURFACE of the meat that is contaminated with E-coli.

Hamburger disseminates the surfaces of many pieces of meat into the bulk. That is why HAMBURGER ground from many pieces of meat MUST be cooked thoroughly in order to kill the E-coli.
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hippywife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:56 PM
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11. And there's no amount of money
that could encourage me to eat raw meat the came from a huge meat processor via a feedlot! :puke:
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