Does anyone have answers to this website

[Beaverhausen]

http://www.petakillsanimals.com/petaKillsAnimals.cfm

It was posted on another website I go to. I'm wanting to prove that this info is false.

thanks.

[AFSCME girl]

1. Hi Beaverhausen,

I am a member of PETA and have never heard anything about them killing animals. If PETA has an adoption center or vet clinic at their headquarters, I would imagine that, under certain circumstances, some animals would have to be humanely euthanized ~ i.e. an animal is brought in mortally injured and cannot be saved or something like that.

I also clicked on the "7 things you didn't know about PETA" link, and I knew all of those things except the assertion that PETA stands outside of elementary schools "preying" on youngsters (I'm paraphrasing) in order to turn them vegetarian.

In my opinion, this looks like a bunch of malarchy....

:hi:

[Beaverhausen]

2. That was my first reaction

that the animal are being euthanized at a shelter.

thanks!

:hi:

[Goblinmonger]

8. I don't think they "prey"

but they do have an anti-KFC protest that involves a guy in a chicken suit. They often do this protest across the street from elementary schools. How do I know? They actually did this in my town about a month ago. Then they move the protest across the street from the local KFCs.

[livinginphotographs]

9. A guy in a chicken suit! The horror!

Then they have to go home and be terrorized by a guy in a purple dinosaur suit! Won't someone think of the children!!!! :sarcasm:

[Goblinmonger]

10. I know

Horrible, isn't it. I think it is a pretty cool campaign, but I agree with it, so there you are.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

3. That moronic claim was made on Penn and Teller's Bullshit.

He also said he would rather kill every chimpanzee by hand than have one human die :eyes:.

Sometimes, in fact far more often than people realize, putting a compnaion animal to sleep is the only kind option. I remember this one couple who had a dog. The dog was paralyzed and needed a blood transfusion every single week. He had to be carried everywhere he went and they used a towel to hold up his middle so he didn't soil himself. That was inhumane for that dog.

My boss had two very old cats. One was so thin, every bone stuck out on his body. You could see every rib and every vertebra. He couldn't eat without throwing up, so he stopped eating. His fur was falling out and he would have seizures. It was cruel to force him to continue living.

Sometimes the abuse committed against the animals is too great. I posted awhile ago about a dog that came in with nearly all her skin gone. The owners told us that they had been camping and had tied her to some randome RV. The RV owners drove off in the middle of the night and dragged the dog with them. She tried to run but eventually was just dragged. They said the owners of the RV got about 2 miles before someone flagged them down. No whether they are telling the truth or not, I only know that that dog was in constant pain. She was missing skin all over her body. She had more exposed areas than areas with skin on them. Her nails were worn down to the paws and her paw pads were worn down and just bloody pulp. This dog should not have been forced to continue living so the owners wouldn't feel so guilty. But they chose to subject her to over 8 hours of surgery plus about a week of living with her pain. We could not carry her because of her missing skin and she HAD to walk on her bloody paws.

Peta doesn't kill animals that are healthy. They free animals that for whatever reason are suffering. This argument that people KILL animals is as bad as the fundy's argument that doctors who assist cancer patients in suicide are murderers.

DUers screamed for the rights of Schivo to die with dignity. She was NOT suffering. How can they deny that right to animals that are suffering.

The other seven things are equally ridiculous. Yes, Peta protested the March of Dimes. But they don't say why. The March of Dimes was sewing the eyes of animals shut and seeing the effects of what happens when they are completely deprived of light. They take perfectly healthy animals and do horrible experiments on them. They will take pregnant animals and force cocaine, liquor and the tars and nicotine of cigarettes into them.

Peta doesn't ask that March of Dimes be shut down. They ask that March of Dimes devote their time to HELPING people rather than killing animals.


ANd then you have the "blah blah blah they attack religion" which just means that sometime, somewhere a Peta member disagreed with the Church. It's no different from when they accuse liberals of doing the same.

[livinginphotographs]

4. My brother used to work at PETA.

He assures me there is nowhere in the building where they kill animals.

And he's the one that addressed this the best: "So a couple of washed-up Vegas magicians are now an authority?"

[livinginphotographs]

5. I just read through that site

And it's so full of bullshit that it's hardly even worth addressing. (including the ridiculous, oft-repeated assertion about PETA wanting ot outlaw pets, which is patently untrue).

You have to wonder who is behind this "organization" that is so afraid of animal rights work. Meat industry, dairy, someone who has an interest in animal testing? It reminds me of the Swift Boat losers.

edit: answered my own question. http://www.petakillsanimals.com/about.cfm
"PETA Kills Animals" is a project of the Center for Consumer Freedom (CCF), a nonprofit organization dedicated to protecting the full range of choices that American consumers currently enjoy.

[JackieO]

6. CCF

some background info on the Center for Consumer Freedom:

http://www.sourcewatch.org/wiki.phtml?title=Center_for_Consumer_Freedom

[Beaverhausen]

7. Thanks for that link

that explains a lot.

[expatriot]

11. PETA does support euthanasia as the compassionate option....

of course this is true, PETA does support euthanasia of unwanted and suffering animals as a 'necessary evil' to end suffering of unwanted/suffering animals. That is the only rational stance. PETA has come out against many, many "no kill" shelters since they either have to be highly selective as to which animals to admit and/or the living conditions of the animals are horrendous in that theyt are left to spend their lives in cages, often neglected. The fact is is that there are so many unwanted animals out there that euthanasia is the only reasonable option.

Now for the Center for Consumer Freedom to try and call PETA out on this "hypocrisy" is very stupid since there is no hypocrisy in using euthanasia to end animal suffering, if it is done humanely and painlessly.

[shockra]

12. More links on CCF

From American Prospect on its CCF's founder, Richard Berman:

Consider that in addition to running the Center for Consumer Freedom, a nonprofit 501(c)(3), Berman also has another day job: He's the founder and president of an influential Washington lobbying firm, Berman & Co. According to press accounts, the firm has performed for-profit lobbying for -- you guessed it -- many of the same industries served by the center: restaurant chains like Outback, Hooters, and Red Lobster (a spokesman declined comment).

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And it gets murkier. Berman's nonprofit center, it turns out, has also been paying handsome sums for research, communications, and other services to none other than ... Berman & Co. In 2002, for example, according to its Internal Revenue Service filing, the Center for Consumer Freedom paid Berman & Co. more than $1 million.

http://www.prospect.org/web/page.ww?section=root&name=ViewWeb&articleId=8984

Berman moved into the food and beverage industry in 1975 under the mentorship of Norman Brinker, founder and owner of the Steak & Ale chain of restaurants. Berman started a government affairs program, launched his first PAC for Brinker, and worked there until 1984. In 1995, Berman and Brinker were identified as the special-interest lobbyists who donated the $25,000 that caused House Speaker Newt Gingrich to be hauled before the House Ethics Committee for influence peddling.

http://www.consumerdeception.com/history.html

Washington, DC, November 16, 2004 -- Earlier today, Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) filed a complaint with the Internal Revenue Service alleging that the Center for Consumer Freedom ("CCF") has violated its tax exempt status in three ways: 1) by engaging in prohibited electioneering against presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich; 2) by making substantial payments to the founder of the organization Richard Berman and to Berman's wholly owned for profit entity Berman & Co.; and 3) by engaging in activities with no charitable purpose.

http://www.citizensforethics.org/press/newsrelease.php?view=5

New petakillsanimals.com billboard in Times Square? And oh, boy. An unbiased news release! :sarcasm:

New billboard: 'PETA kills animals' Education effort points out nonprofit destroys 85% of pets in its shelter
Posted: May 12, 2005

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=44226