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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-09-09 03:04 AM
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it's brutal out there
I just learned tonight that a family member who has been struggling in rural New England has been getting only one meal only six days a week. Yesterday he walked 28 miles to visit his two little girls who live with their mother. On the way back to his room (at night) he drank water from a lake, and his knees gave out so he sat by the side of this rural road for a bit. A sheriff came along and gave him a ride for a couple of miles.

He's decided to leave the area and go thousands of miles elsewhere to find work where there's a small support system (struggling, too). He has to leave his girls, and it's killing him.

Don't tell me about an improving economy. I don't see it. This is too much like the Great Depression.
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inthebrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-09-09 03:07 AM
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1. It's brutal out there
Capitalism has collapsed in the United States. The powers that be seem more interested in keeping up the ruse that there is security in the system.

People are pissed the fuck off everytime someone goes on about the the economy having a positive prognosis. Wall Street just ripped everyone off.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-09-09 04:41 AM
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2. Need 1 more for the page of 5
K&R

Its gonna get worse...blame it on the MBA President Bush who fucked it all to hell....and them GOOPers too
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yy4me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-09-09 05:53 AM
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3. I'm a New Englander and hear from people in all 6 states from
time to time. The horror stories abound. There are some towns where the business districts look like remains from a war zone. Storefronts empty, people just hanging around with very little possibility of finding work. Some of these towns were viable business communities just a few years ago. The jobs are gone, no-one to support the local businesses.

Just down the street you will find the great wal-mart, taking any dollars available. This same wal-mart that sent all the little mom and pop businesses out of business. The big factories have gone south of the border ot just gone. I live in fear for all of us. We are sitting ducks to be shoved aside when the next closure or downsize comes.

No cost of living increase for Social Security? Hey Washington, come to our neck of the woods and start comparing the prices of everything. A trip to the grocery store will make you sick. Never mind anything else you might mention. I feel for your uncle and see how readily this could happen to all of us.

Unemployment has hit home for me and hundreds in my small town. Never thought I'd see the day.......

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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-09-09 11:08 AM
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5. so true
He's in the lakes region of NH. He's a certified chef who has worked at the best restaurants, including the Ritz Carlton in Boston and some of the region's beautiful old inns. He's getting less than 20 hours of work a week and says that some nights there are NO DINERS in the dining room of the beautiful old resort. He has desperately tried to stay near his girls. Impossible. He's in a downward spiral there. Six meals a week. I cried and cried last night.

What kind of ghouls would deliberately ruin the economy of a country?

What is the end game for the corporatists? How is ruining the economy more profitable than making money from a thriving economy?

And what will wake the people?

(Those questions have no answers, I know.)
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-09-09 11:12 PM
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7. "What kind of ghouls would deliberately ruin the economy of a country?"
Answer that question and all the dots fall into place.
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pbrower2a Donating Member (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-06-09 08:09 PM
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11. "What kind of ghouls...?"
What kind of ghouls would deliberately ruin the economy of a country?


... The sorts of people living well at the start of Doctor Zhivago: exploiters who harbor the delusion that they are benefactors to those that they exploit. People who reward themselves well for treating others badly. People who would gladly sell out the middle class for profits as "importers" when such is easier than manufacturing.

What is the end game for the corporatists?

1. Red Revolution. Bad idea, but those happen only in pathological social orders.

2. A fascist dictatorship that tries to export its ideology where it isn't welcome and ends up defeated by those that it intends to enslave or slaughter. It's a pity what happened in Hamburg and Hiroshima, to be sure, but for most Germans (except in the Soviet and Polish zones) and Japanese, liberation could come only with defeat of thug governments.

3. A return to what made America great not only in wealth but opportunity and equity: small business formation and a government that serves the People instead of serving THE People.

And what will wake the people?

The realization that a government "in bed" with tycoons and executives brings poverty instead of prosperity for most -- with absolutely no economic security.

Debt that people can't pay back is poverty just as much as the lack of cash.


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bahumbas Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 06:06 AM
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13. what if
The world is coming on to america that is why the west economically isn't doing so well
could it be that the time has come for asia to prosper?
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lexanman Donating Member (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 03:14 AM
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14. the end game is ruining the economy
they could give a shit once they have wrung us dry. Their goal then and its happening now is to stash their money away in foreign numbered bank accounts and offshore locations and hope that we all die. A parasite has no need for a host once its dead.
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-09-09 09:24 AM
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4. K&R
:kick:
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-09-09 08:06 PM
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6. this makes me sick to my stomach. I am so sorry. I wish I could
do something but there isn't much going on here either. Its not as bad as that however. Poor man. I am so sorry. :(
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retiremesoon Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 12:48 AM
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8. MY NEIGHBOR SAYS I'M A VICTIM
You see I lost my job after 23 years with the government in Canada.They gave me $300,000. when we downsized and closed up.I don't think I'm a victim since my wife has a government job with benefits.

When I hear stories about 2 million homeless and people starving around the world I don't know how someone can see me as a victim ??

I'm sorry to hear about the suffering people are going through.I plan to invest the money they gave me in safe investments and keep giving donations to people that need a hand up.
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durablend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 03:48 PM
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9. Can someone explain to me
About these "falling prices" (greatest in 50 years) that was in the news today? On which planet are these falling prices being found? Certainly not earth!
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 07:00 PM
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The price of gas is going up 20 cents a gallon per week.
I don't think housing and utilities are any cheaper and neither is food. So what may be going down in price is "stuff" the stores aren't able to get rid of. Since income is going down, people aren't spending.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 07:00 PM
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10. The price of gas is going up 20 cents a gallon per week.
I don't think housing and utilities are any cheaper and neither is food. So what may be going down in price is "stuff" the stores aren't able to get rid of. Since income is going down, people aren't spending.
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bahumbas Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 05:54 AM
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12. It is the way of life
Well get use to it. I live in thailand and I got nothing. I spend my life trying to get good grades in school and still life sucks. Countries like Africa has embraced captialism and communism and they still live in extreme poverty.
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Glory89fan Donating Member (51 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 11:56 PM
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15. That's horrible
Hopefully things will turn out for the better for him soon.
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barsouk Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-15-09 12:10 PM
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16. Communism, Socialism, or Anarcho-Syndicalism?
So most of yooz people condemn capitalism? You can choose any of the three listed on the menu above. By the way, how does Anarcho-Sydicalism work? Did I spell it correctly?
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centristgrandpa Donating Member (314 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 06:55 PM
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17. the one-way street of broken political promises...
main street seems quite narrow based on the latest actions of team Obama. the looking glass during thee elections made main street rather large with promises of reform..tHe movie candidate comes to mind. the vail of hoPe is razor thin...
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