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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 02:13 PM
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German discovers longest prime number
A German eye specialist with a keen amateur interest in mathematics has discovered the world's largest prime number after a 50-day search using his personal computer.

Dr Martin Nowak, who has his own practice in the south German town of Michelfeld, stumbled upon the number last week, breaking the previous record for a prime number by half a million digits.

Prime numbers are divisible only by themselves and 1. While the first prime numbers 2, 3, 5, and 7, are easy to identify, Dr Nowak's monster prime number is more than 7.8m digits long and is written as 2 to the 25,964,951st power minus 1.

The number belongs to a special class of rare prime numbers known as Mersenne primes, named after a 17th century French monk who first studied them 350 years ago. So far only 42 have been found.

Guardian UK
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 02:14 PM
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1. Good I was worried that that field of study was suffering
Glad to see someone is still working on it.

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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 02:15 PM
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2. I have never understood how something can be the largest number.
Can't you just add a 0 or 5 or something and make it a little bigger? :)
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lazarus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 02:19 PM
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3. not and still be prime
For instance, 5 is a prime number. If you add one to it, it's no longer prime, it's 6. Add 2 to 5, and it's prime, but add 3, 4, or 5, and it's not.

Also, there's no known way to predict when a prime number will pop up.
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 02:44 PM
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7. There is no largest prime.
One of the first theorems you learn in number theory.

Another example of sloppy science journalism!
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AZCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 03:06 PM
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8. I was under the impression...
that there were a finite number of primes.

This would mean that there is actually a largest prime number.
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 04:08 PM
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9. nope. there is an infinite number.
The proof is pretty simple, by contradiction:

Suppose the number of primes *was* finite. let the set {p1, p2, ... pN} be the set of all primes.

Now, define a value q = 1 + (p1 * p2 * ... * pN). Notice that "q" is not divisible by any of {p1, p2, ... pN}. But that makes it prime, since any non-prime number is the product of some set of primes.

Therefore, the set of primes cannot be finite.
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AZCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 06:59 PM
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10. I was wrong, but there is a small error in your post
I read up on this, and while you are correct that there are an infinite number of primes, your conclusion is incorrect (I didn't think of it - Euclid did). It is possible that "q" is not prime, but rather is divisible by some prime not included in the finite set. The result is the same - the set does not include all known primes.
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 09:49 AM
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12. right, that's part of the contradiction.
If the initial assumption (there's a finite number) were true, there can't be any other primes in the set, by definition.
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aden_nak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 02:20 PM
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4. There are forty-two of them? Adams was right. ^.^
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Oreo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 02:28 PM
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6. YES!


It took them this long to realize Adams wasn't kidding about 42.
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madhat Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 02:25 PM
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5. The Jews had hidden it. n/t
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 07:21 PM
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11. GIMPS!!!!!
He was running GIMPS software. No line, no waiting ... download your copy now.

http://www.mersenne.org/prime.htm

(I would, but after a long run of Seti-at-home, I'm curring running Folding at Home in the background.)
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