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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 07:17 PM
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Dodo skeleton find in Mauritius (BBC)
Edited on Sat Jun-24-06 07:26 PM by eppur_se_muova
Scientists say they have discovered part of the skeleton of a dodo, the large, flightless bird which became extinct more than 300 years ago.

One of the team in Mauritius said it was the first discovery of fully preserved bones which could give clues as to how the bird became extinct.

Last year, the team found a number of dodo bones at the site, but said the current find was more "significant".

The bird is thought to have been hunted to extinction by European settlers.

No complete skeleton has ever been found in Mauritius, and the last full set of bones was destroyed in a fire at a museum in Oxford, England, in 1755.


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more: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/5113372.stm

Interesting finds. They will be looking for DNA remains. Wouldn't it be an amazing breakthrough if one of the icons of human-caused extinction could be revivified from bits of DNA? The ivorybill woodpecker (status ?),
passenger pigeon, dodo, Steller's sea cow ...

on edit: there has been some earlier analysis of dodo DNA, see http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/1847431.stm
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 08:00 PM
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1. poor babies. couldn't get away. What kind of person walks up and
kills a defenseless animal just sitting there?
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 09:58 PM
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2. A republican? nt
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 06:19 PM
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5. A hungry one.
You travel a long ways by boat, you get to an island that has fresh meat coming up to great you, and you would you (the omnivore) do? Kill, cook, eat. Yum.

But the dogs and pigs left behind (and their descendants) did their share of destruction, destroying the birds eggs.

The bird lived on the ground, laid eggs on nests on the ground.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 12:33 AM
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6. Humans are brutal
Edited on Mon Jun-26-06 12:34 AM by Viva_La_Revolution
We (probably) killed off all the major fauna in the Americas (woolly mammoths, horses, camels)

we killed off the large mammals in Australia and New Guinea.

Hell, we even killed off the Passenger Pigeon (which numbered in the millions just 150 years ago.)

I'm pretty sure we killed off the Neanderthals too, but I like to think they fought back.

We can be a murderous and glutinous species :(
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 10:09 PM
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3. Does that mean that they're going to clone and create a dodo after all
these years?
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freethought Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 11:21 AM
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4. Unfortunately, it's not very likely.
Edited on Sun Jun-25-06 11:43 AM by freethought
There have been a number of postings about resurrection of extinct species through cloning with the DNA coming from parts or preserved specimens. Just about all of them have been abandoned.
The problem is that DNA degrades over time no matter how the host specimen is preserved or stored. With mounted or stuffed specimens it looks like you have a viable preserved specimen or at least parts of one. The problem is that that mounted specimen has been treated with chemicals and stuff to preserve it which degrades the DNA. Even if you freeze a DNA sample, it will degrade over time regardless of the method of storage.
Some biologists in Australia made an attempt to resurrect the Tasmanian Tiger, a predatory marsupial.
The DNA was to come from a fetal specimen stored in alcohol. Same thing happened, the DNA had degraded too much. I do remember that the project may be back on with the discovery of a new DNA source, I don't recall where they were getting the new genetic material.

It would be amazing if they found a viable DNA source or found a way to reconstruct the genetic material but the old adage "Extinction is Forever" still holds.
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Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 11:47 PM
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7. It's already been done.
He's called Dubya. :rofl:
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