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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 11:10 AM
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Religion sues Utah town to display '7 Aphorisms'
Religion sues Utah town to display '7 Aphorisms'

By The Associated Press
08.05.05
SALT LAKE CITY — The Summum religion has sued the city of Pleasant Grove for the right to display the other set of laws they say Moses brought down the mountain.

The city has refused to allow the Salt Lake City-based religion to erect a monument enumerating the Seven Aphorisms, principles they say underlie creation and nature, with a public memorial that includes the Ten Commandments.

Summum leaders believe these were initially passed only to a select few who could understand them, but that Moses also delivered a lower set of laws, the Ten Commandments, which were more widely distributed.

Pleasant Grove's memorial sits in a secluded area that honors the city's heritage. The monument has been on city property since the Fraternal Order of Eagles donated it in 1971, and Summum wants the right to put its monument of the Seven Aphorisms there also.
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http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/news.aspx?id=15635
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mbperrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 11:13 AM
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1. Moses is Moses...if the 10 Commandments are a legal
heritage, surely the 7 Aphorisms are....

BTW, after the commandments and aphorisms came the 14 Suggestions, 27 Excuses, and 1 Cure for Flatulence....

;)
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 11:16 AM
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3. There's a cure for flatulence?
Please post it!

--p!
Praise Be Unto Beano®.
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mbperrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 11:20 AM
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5. If only I were of the elect!!! Haven't been admitted to inner mysteries.
;)
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 11:15 AM
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2. Ah, yes! Now it begins.
We'll see what the issue really is -- a desire to restore a moral background that America never lost, or a hypocritical ploy to extend privilege to a radical, fundamentalist Protestant Christian social movement.

--p!
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moose65 Donating Member (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 11:17 AM
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4. Ha Ha!
It was only a matter of time before one of those "other religions" sued to have their commandments/statutes/tenets posted on public property. One wonders how the right wing would respond to a massive attempt by Muslims/Hindus/Wiccans/etc to have such public exhibits. Of course, the right would fight for these groups' rights to do so, wouldn't they??? }(
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 11:25 AM
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6. Here's a link to the Seven Aphorisms...
http://www.summum.us/philosophy/principles.shtml

it's made-up bullshit like every religion, but at least the Ten Commandments will fit on a monument.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 11:53 AM
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10. It's not even Hebrew
It's Greek pagan philosophy with a couple of sections that have been "spiffed up". (Although "psychokinesis" is actually derived from Greek, it wasn't a Greek word at all.)

It may be made-up bullshit, but the bullshit artist didn't even put any work into it. The standards for bullshit have certainly fallen.

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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 11:28 AM
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7. Bring back commandments XI through XV!
"...and so I bring you these fifteen..."

(Thud)

"Oy! These *TEN* commandments of Almighty God!"

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omshanti Donating Member (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 11:40 AM
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8. I demand the flying spaghetti monster be displayed!
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 12:50 PM
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11. Well, I'm for the Invisible Pink Unicorn, myself, ...
Well, I'm for the Invisible Pink Unicorn, myself, but one could argue
that because it is invisible, it is *ALREADY* on display everywhere!

Tesha
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 11:42 AM
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9. The civil war to declare which religion (or brand of christianity) rules
Whose religion, whose bible, who's brand of christianity?

If this is supposedly a "christian nation," then which "christians" does it "belong" to?


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