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NAO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 08:42 PM
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What was the worst thing Clinton did, based on Christian Morality?
What was the worst thing Clinton did, from the standpoint of Christian Morality?

a.) The Monica Lewinsky Affair. (committed adultery)

b.) The "Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act of 1996." (ended welfare)


Check your Answers using The Bible.

For information about answer "a" see John 8:3-11
For information about answer "b" see Matthew 25:31-46

Would you like to change your answer now?

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John 8:3-11

The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group and said to Jesus, “Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery. In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?” They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing him.

But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger. When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, “If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her.”

Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground. At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman still standing there. Jesus straightened up and asked her, “Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?”

“No one, sir,” she said.

“Then neither do I condemn you,” Jesus declared. “Go now and leave your life of sin.”

Matthew 25:31-46

“When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his throne in heavenly glory. All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.

“Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’

"Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you?

When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’

“The King will reply, ‘I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.’

“Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’

“They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’

“He will reply, ‘I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’

“Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”
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ret5hd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 08:43 PM
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1. i would say not intervening in Rwanda...
i think he realizes it also.

but i also realize that he felt that his hands were largely tied, politically speaking.
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Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 08:59 PM
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4. Yes... although it was probably impossible
Given the post-Somalia blowback and the widespread disloyalty within some sectors of the military high command, he was nearly hamstrung. On the other hand, he could have simply bulled it through and damn the consequences, which he didn't do.

I'd put signing off on welfare "reform" a close second. It was one of the few things he did that everyone knew would cause more suffering than it cured.

Of course, when he left office, fewer people were poor, fewer were unemployed, and fewer were deployed in harm's way. That's one trifecta that Chimpy can't even hope to hit.

So a :toast: to the Big Dog, warts and all!
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 08:44 PM
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2. Genocide - Can You Find Anything In The Bible
About ignoring the genocide in Rhwanda?
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 08:47 PM
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3. Tax hikes on the rich.
Oh, that was FRISTIAN morality. Never mind.
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cap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 09:02 PM
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5. either: have way too much fun
:)

OR

Beat the Pharisees at their own game.
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Psephos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 09:02 PM
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6. Rwanda n/t
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 09:15 PM
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7. Have questionable birth status ?
Who's really "his daddy"......was mommy really married to him ?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 09:33 PM
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 09:43 PM
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10. You have just posted false witness.
What does that make you ?
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vonSchloegel Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 09:52 PM
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11. Not certain I beared anything false

but as a devout Atheist, it's irrelevant to me. Just playing the game within the parameters set by the initial post.

I remember Billy Graham saying that there was no sin worse than hypocrisy. Under those terms, pretty much every politician in Washington is going to hell.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 06:37 AM
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12. Well, that's pretty unfair.
Clinton "pretends to be a devout christian" be going to sunday services and carrying his personal bible, and that being a devout christian means he is implicitly asserting that he is without sin, and therefore his going to sunday services while not being perfectly sinless makes him a hypocrite and a pharisee. Whew!

By puttting all that baggage on the simple act of going to services on Sunday, you actually assert it is more christian to play golf unless the person is in an absolute state of grace. Maybe the churches Clinton went to were, well, a little more tolerant.
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vonSchloegel Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 02:41 PM
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13. I'm not saying
that only those without sin should be allowed into church, I'm saying that Clinton only went to church for a photo op. That's the difference. Except for the papal funeral, I highly doubt he's been to church since he left office, and he probably won't be back until the Hillary prexy bid goes into high gear.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 04:40 PM
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14. So what you are saying is even worse.
Reading the heart of Clinton, you are saying that he didn't have ANY good intentions in going to church on Sunday. Just a photo op.

But I guess we were talking about Clinton's sins, and some base their opinion on the bible and you are basing your opinion on mindreading.



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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 04:42 AM
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 07:33 AM
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16. Telling of what?
Your real problem, of course, is that Clinton goes to church, and are particularly galled that he might go to church because he believes. Like a republican, you work so hard to declare it impossible: that Clinton couldn't actually be a Christian.

The republicans do it because they like churchgoing people but want to hate Clinton. You do it because you like Clinton but want to hate churchgoing people. You both end up in the same place: Clinton and church are really oil to water, and he's there for politics.

But there's no evidence of that, merely a set of prejudices and political beliefs having little or nothing to do with the man.

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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-05 07:58 AM
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17. I think you've got it wrong, Inland.
Hint: there may be a pizza party soon.
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jmcon007 Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 01:34 AM
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18. being a "devout" atheist....
what difference does it make to you what Clinton believes? I told a neocon once that his ilk would have absolutely destroyed King David if he were here today......or even Paul (Saul) for that matter, since he was helping with the execution of Christianity's first martyr, Stephen.
By the way, what makes you think your religion, Atheism, is any better than Christianity?
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 09:43 PM
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9. He didn't have to do anything...the Moralists had Mellon-Scaife and
traitorous FBI agents and an orchestrated political militia telling those right wing Congresspeople what to do.
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