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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 09:56 PM
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One more HUGE step toward our fascism nation.....Are we THERE yet?
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The new bill creates a new national ID card ("Let me see your papers") by federalizing driver's licenses. The plan is to establish federal guidelines in the design of licenses that can be used as a means for tracking people. These standards are unnecessary unless the government is developing a social strategy that is so heinous that it's bound to generate more enemies. The increased repression and the greater disparity in personal wealth suggest that this is the case.

Democracy Now elaborates on the new national ID: "There's all sorts of new technologies that could be incorporated into the driver's license to link it to all sorts of public and private-sector databases. And you could also imagine putting an RFID chip in the license that would allow it to be tracked remotely
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http://207.44.245.159/article7518.htm

I get so frustrated when you all talk about the 2008 election. Do you REALLY think there will be one? HAVA will be the law of the land. Every precinct will have TT voting machines. The damage he will do in the next 4 years can never be reversed. My only peace comes with knowing, at least I won't be blindsided like most of America.
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proudbluestater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 10:01 PM
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1. Yes, we have arrived at fascism. I think it was in 2001
when the Patriot Act was printed at 3:45 AM and voted on at 11 AM without a single member having read the "newly-revised" edition that was amended by Bush/Ashcroft in the dead of night. That marked our arrival.

The bill had been agreed upon. But -- oops, wait, we have a few items to add. Then you can vote on the 300 page bill which will be closed to comment and voted upon unread.

I blame the Democrats as much as the Republicans on this.
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thoughtanarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 10:04 PM
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2. It's a convenience really...
to help expedite your passage through the "safety checkpoints". Once martial law is declared, the well prepared sheeple can go through the express lane...
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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 10:21 PM
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3. Can I cry now?
Proudbluestater..You are correct on HOW it happened...and yes, I certainly do blame the dems as much as any one. They will never see my vote again...

THOUGHT! I'm sure glad you have a sense of humor. I don't like being inconvenienced, so this is a good thing.Thanks for pointing it out.

:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:
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thoughtanarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 10:30 PM
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4. Sorry, I must react with only humor...
When I post stronger reactions I tend to get followed around everywhere by a cable service van...

...it makes me jumpy...

:freak:
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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 10:40 PM
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5. You're very funny.....
Welcome to DU....We might as well laugh I have no idea what else to do? :shrug:
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thoughtanarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 10:46 PM
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6. Thanks! My first welcome...
I know what to do...

hoard water and duct tape and plastic sheeting (not sure why though)

Do not get social security cards / federal ID for your children (they'll thank you later)

and remember: In case of emergency -- DUCK and COVER



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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 11:17 PM
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7. National ID card.....chapter 2
this article is even more fun.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/yates/yates99.html

Something tells me that there will be no place to hide. As long as you use technology, have a job and have ANYTHING in your name from Corportate America they will find you/
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thoughtanarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 01:59 AM
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8. can't we publish these bills here and translate the legalise ourselves?
to uncover stuff like this before it's voted on?

that would make a great group... It sucks finding out about this BS after it's cleared house & senate. Don't our reps read anything?
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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 09:12 PM
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9. They deliberately make these bills
900 pages of legal Bushit so no one, including reps have time to read it...then they ADD more Bushit at 3AM so no one is there to challenge it.
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