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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 07:44 AM
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Thinking of getting an EMF meter

Anyone use them?
What did you find around the house?
Were you surprised?

Any tips on purchasing?

Thanks
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 07:54 AM
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1. Save your money and make a dowsing rod out of twigs in the back yard. n/t
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 07:57 AM
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3. *chuckle*
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 08:09 AM
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4. Sound advice
It's cheaper and picking up twigs doesn't enrich some opportunistic scumbag.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 07:57 AM
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2. Going ghost hunting, are you?
Save your money or, better yet, donate it to a candidate's campaign.
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 06:13 AM
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13. no

It was for health or I would have posted elsewhere.

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wuvuj Donating Member (874 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 09:18 AM
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5. Some people are more sensitive...
...to EMF. EMF pollution is becoming MUCH more prevalent. It's something like GMOs...you are the experimental Gpig?
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 09:29 AM
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6. Anyone who claims sensitivity to EMF should claim their million dollar prize, or STFU.
Edited on Tue Oct-26-10 09:30 AM by Ian David
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wuvuj Donating Member (874 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 12:13 PM
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7. EMF sensitivity and the paranormal...
...are not exactly equivalent. You'd have to be real stupid not to expect an organism to be sensitive to EMF to some extent.

Since our civilization is pretty much saturated with electrical use and fields there MIGHT be some resistance to the idea that EMF is a problem?

And a lot of people live in cardboard boxes...and only peek out now and then. What they see outside the box scares them.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 12:39 PM
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8. If you can prove that you can sense or manipulate EMF with your body, it's paranormal.
Edited on Tue Oct-26-10 12:40 PM by Ian David
Randi has said he'll give anyone a million dollars if they can do this.

This includes people who claim EMF is making them sick and stuff.

It's paranormal because it's counter to what is "normal" or to what is called "reality."

I am sure that a million dollars will buy you whatever EMF-free environment you think you need.




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salvorhardin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 06:47 PM
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11. Yes, that's true. We live in a sea of electromagnetic radiation.
But the problem is, we always have. The sun, cosmic background radiation, natural radioactivity... those are all a thousand times greater than the strongest human made radio signal. Every single day the sun pours more EMF radiation into every single square meter of the surface of the Earth than all the cell phones, broadcast towers and WiFi access points in the world. And unlike the EMF generated by any electronic device in our everyday lives those all, in part, are sources of ionizing radiation which can damage our DNA.

So if humans, outside of certain very rare diseases such as cutaneous or erythropoietic porphyria, aren't particularly sensitive to these very strong sources of electromagnetic radiation with which we evolved, why should anyone be even remotely sensitive to the much weaker human made ones?

Sure, in special circumstances, such as strapping strong electromagnets all over your head and then pulsing them in very particular ways, you can directly stimulate the human brain. But that's not the same as wearing a pair of headphones or putting a cellphone up against your head. The difference in the relative signals is great and since the strength of any radiation falls off as a function of the square of the distance, the effective radiation that actually reaches our brains is so weak as to be inconsequential.

No matter how one looks at this problem, there's no reasonable explanation for why anyone should be affected by the kind of electromagnetic radiation in our everyday environment. That doesn't mean there aren't people who are sensitive to it, but it does make them extraordinarily unlikely. And since the sun, CMBR, etc. are all so many orders of magnitude stronger, if there are such people then they would be sick with or without human generated radio frequencies. Which means the only way to alleviate their symptoms would be for them to live in thick lead lined faraday cages with no windows and only nonelectric sources of illumination. After all, the sun isn't going anywhere anytime soon.
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 03:22 PM
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9. I recall reading a research article once about a woman
who was having strange "religious" experiences that were traced to her clock-radio next to her bed. The EMF (I suppose) from the device was causing her brain to have abnormal activity. They moved the radio and the experiences stopped.

I have a couple devices that detect EMF and they are fun to play around with. Get one and experiment for yourself.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 06:15 PM
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10. Cool story, bro!
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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 07:22 PM
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12. I used an am radio
to detect a problem with a microwave oven. There was a lot of static on the radio when the microwave was on. I used it on another microwave oven, and no static. The first one must have been leaky. It actually belonged to a friend. I asked her about it and she told me to throw it away, so I did.
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salvorhardin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 12:26 PM
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14. An AM radio is incapable of detecting microwaves
A commercial AM radio in the U.S. detects and decodes amplitude modulated signals in the medium wave band (520 KHz - 1,610 KHz). Microwave ovens emit radio waves at 2.45 GHz. In other words, microwave ovens operate at frequencies over 1,500 times greater than sn AM radio is capable of receiving.

The static your AM radio was picking up was related to normal electrical interference related to the microwave oven's power supply. The other microwave oven probably simply had a better power supply that didn't result in as much interference.
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 01:47 PM
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15. Here's a page with instructions on how to build one.
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