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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 07:44 PM
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Boniva, once a month for protection from osteoporosis....
http://www.robertschoch.net/Wild%20Yam%20Extract.htm

For all of the women out there who are experiencing the radical effects of hormonal changes and for all you men out there on the receiving side of all the manic and hysterical behavior of your loved one, there is help available. A natural alternative for supplementing estrogen. I researched various herbs. I found Wild Mexican Yam extract cream for topical application to be most beneficial. I want to pass this information on to all of those who suffer.

Despite the known side effects, prescriptions for the synthetic form of progesterone are still being handed out to women with menstrual problems, osteoporosis, and menopausal symptoms. In addition to fluid retention and salt build-up, synthetic progesterone is known to cause uncontrollable mood swings, irritability, nervousness and heart palpitations, not to mention blood clots and uterine cancers. Studies show that the synthetic form tends to have these effects because it is not 'real.' Many pharmaceutical companies manufacture a product with an altered molecular structure; as a result it no longer fits into the biochemical machinery of the body.

Today, women are discovering a safe, natural form of progesterone from which synthetic progesterone is prescribed.
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 07:53 PM
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1. i tried this with no luck. Also osteo and wild mood swings? please....
however hormone loss and osteo - that I know. I have osteopenia - curse of thin white women, especially those who hit menopause early. Tried the cream for hot sweats of perimenopause, used it for 4 months, no change.

What did help me was simply adding a couple common garden sage leaves into a cup of tea - letting it steep for 5 minutes then drinking it. This would stop night sweats for several days. Maybe other women will also find relief with sage tea?
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 07:56 PM
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2. Let's take it from the experts....
http://search.lef.org/cgi-src-bin/MsmGo.exe?grab_id=0&page_id=117&query=menopause&hiword=MENOPAUSAL%20MENOPAUSIC%20menopause%20


Benefits of Black Cohosh

Black cohosh (Cimicifuga racemosa) is a North American perennial herb that has been used to treat gynecological complaints for centuries. Native American healers and American physicians alike have prescribed black cohosh for relief from hot flashes and other menopausal symptoms.54 Listed as an official drug in the U.S. Pharmacopoeia from 1820 to 1926, black cohosh has been rediscovered by research scientists and menopausal women.18,55 Several recent clinical trials of exacting randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled design have shown that black cohosh is indeed effective in reducing the severity, duration, and incidence of hot flashes and night sweats.6,16,17,56

A recent study at the Mayo Clinic in Scottsdale, AZ, examined the safety and effectiveness of black cohosh in reducing hot flashes. Weekly hot flash scores were reduced by 56% among women receiving black cohosh. Researchers noted that previous studies reported relatively high placebo effects in tests of treatments for hot flashes, but in this trial, placebo effects ranged from only 20% to 30%. “The efficacy found in this trial seems to be more than would be expected by a placebo effect,” according to the researchers. Women taking black cohosh in this study also reported less trouble sleeping, less fatigue, and less sweating.57

Another recently published study compared the efficacy and safety of black cohosh extract to a standard hormone replacement regimen (low-dose estradiol administered by skin patch). The researchers concluded that the two treatments were equally effective in reducing hot flashes. Both treatments significantly lowered LDL, but only black cohosh raised beneficial HDL. In addition, both patient groups experienced significant improvements in menopause-associated symptoms of anxiety and depression. Effects were noted within the first month of treatment and continued unabated for the three-month duration of the study. Neither treatment affected liver function or altered levels of follicle stimulating hormone, luteinizing hormone, or cortisol. The estradiol treatment, but not black cohosh, slightly increased levels of the hormone prolactin.58

Because of the potential estrogenic activity of black cohosh, scientists have carefully evaluated whether it is capable of influencing the growth of hormone-dependent cancers. Researchers at Northwestern Medical School who performed a series of sophisticated laboratory analyses of the extract concluded, “Black cohosh extracts did not demonstrate estrogenic activity in any of these assay systems.”59 However, German researchers found that black cohosh appears to exert estrogenic effects elsewhere in the body. They concluded that the botanical product demonstrated “no action in the uterus, but beneficial effects in . . . bone.”60
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 09:46 PM
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3. Experts?




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More like snake oil peddlers.

They get away with it by inserting this waiver after their absurd claims:

The FDA concludes that there is little scientific evidence supporting this claim.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 05:19 AM
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4. Black Cohosh..... from the experts...... I take copious amounts
of snake oil and I will outwork most people half my age... then again, maybe I'm just lucky.



Questions and Answers About Black Cohosh and the Symptoms of Menopause
Office of Dietary Supplements • National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine • National Institutes of Health
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A randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trial in 80 menopausal women compared 8 mg/day of a black cohosh extract (as two 2-mg tablets of Remifemin twice daily) with placebo or conjugated estrogens (0.625 mg/day) <8>. At 12 weeks, scores on the Kupperman index and the Hamilton anxiety scale were significantly lower in the treated groups than in the placebo group; the scores of participants using black cohosh were somewhat better than the scores of those receiving the estrogen treatment. This is one of the few studies in which hot flashes were scored separately from other symptoms. Daily hot flashes decreased from 4.9 to 0.7 in the black cohosh group, 5.2 to 3.2 in the estrogen group, and 5.1 to 3.1 in the placebo group.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 10:29 PM
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5. You "forgot" to post the link to the studies.
Funny how that always happens when the results don't support your claims.

Although some study results suggest that black cohosh may help relieve menopausal symptoms, other study results do not. Studies of black cohosh have yielded conflicting data, in part because of lack of rigor in study design and short study duration (6 months or less). In addition, interpretation of these studies is complicated by the fact that different amounts of black cohosh from different sources were used in the various studies and their outcome measures were different.


Anecdotal "evidence" from snake oil users and/or pushers isn't evidence.

I think I'll stick to getting medical advice from actual medical professionals.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 05:12 AM
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6. It's your funeral.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 10:09 AM
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7. Oh,that's right, I forgot. Doctors are paid hit men for the medical mafia.
It's the quacks who make millions of dollars duping gullible customers who will save us all. :eyes:
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 06:00 PM
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8. Well, if you must ask.... then I must tell.....
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0FDN/is_2_7/ai_85522989


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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 10:28 PM
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9. I asked for a product that has absolutely nothing to do with this subject?
The subject being quackery and fraudulent claims made by for profit altie drug corporations, of course.
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