Psychiatrists want to call being angry a mental illness. How utterly mad! Hoarding also to be added

[BridgeTheGap]

Do you live surrounded by clutter - ancient copies of magazines, your children’s old toys, articles you’ve clipped out of newspapers over the years?
If you find it hard to throw out things of limited or no value, you could be suffering from hoarding disorder.
‘Hoarding’ is just one of the new mental conditions being added to the psychiatrists’ bible, or the Diagnostic And Statistical Manual Of Mental Disorders (DSM), to give it its proper name.
Other new conditions identified as possibly needing professional help include binge eating - which is said to affect many people who are seriously obese - and ‘cognitive tempo disorder’, which seems very like laziness (symptoms include dreaminess and sluggishness).

There’s also ‘intermittent explosive disorder’, which involves occasionally becoming very angry suddenly.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1251309/Psychiatrists-want-angry-mental-illness-How-utterly-mad.html#ixzz0kRhEtzdz

[ixion]

1. yeah, if you're not a mindless, emotionless automaton, you've got

some type of so-called "disorder" :eyes:

[smirkymonkey]

2. I think I might have that laziness, sluggishness thing.

I wonder what kind of meds they would give me for it?

[aquart]

3. That "intermittent explosive disorder" is NOT "being angry."

It's a brain chemistry problem and classifying it as a disorder means someone will start looking for a way to treat it.

As for hoarding, I'm messy and I have trouble throwing things out. But I know a hoarder. There's a real, scary difference. It's also possibly inherited, because my friend's mother was also a hoarder.

[hlthe2b]

11. I know many a severe PMS sufferer who experiences

"intermittent explosive disorder." I know that I did, myself on occasion years ago. Somehow labeling hormonally-influenced behaviors as mental health disorders is not likely to do a lot for women.

Yes, I know many of these will be refined in terms of definition, but the line behind "early stages" of behaviors (hoarding for instance) and full fledged disorder are likely to be fuzzy. Plenty of OCD behaviors have been labeled as such over the years, but little research has gone into finding treatments. Trichotillomania, for example.


I am not anti-mental health profession at all. But, I am old enough to remember when homosexuality was a DSM disorder. Categorizing what is "normal" and not, is a difficult process, and one which "hard science" has provided little, in terms of underpinnings.

[aquart]

17. Well, the brain chemistry IS being affected.

And those hormones are way out of wack. Do you think it's better to dismiss it as just being "on the rag"?

[Duer 157099]

4. Jesus, I hit the trifecta!

Lucky me! WooT!

[hlthe2b]

5. You know... if your "normal" includes NO ONE without at least one

of these "disorders," then something is REALLY wrong with your definitions. Good Lord, I'm not sure I know ANYONE who is "normal" given the inclusion of so many subjective "disorders>' Between depression, anger, ocd behaviors, occasional or frequent binge eating or hoarding--that just about captures everyone I know. :shrug:

[Duer 157099]

8. That's because you only know interesting people

The normal people are out there, but they are so boring that you don't notice them.

[hlthe2b]

12. LOL... perhaps, so

[Duer 157099]

6. "Most bizarre of the proposed additions is one defined as

‘getting a thrill at being outraged by pornography'"

This is sounding like a diagnosis for Teabaggerism is imminent

[dixiegrrrrl]

7. Intermittant explosive disorder has been around for a long time

as a DSM diagnosis, and it is defined by sudden rage, not be "being angry".
Massive over the top temper tantrums over essentially nothing, completely disproportionate to the situation.
I worked with a Dr. who had it, the entire staff lived in terror of his outbursts, he would actually throw things at people.
He eventually had to leave his position.

[BridgeTheGap]

10. Road rage probably fits here too. This is also one the indicators of borderline personality disorde

[Deep13]

9. Psychiatrists realize what no one else wants to know.

Human behavior has causes and effects and is as predictable as any other kind of cause and effect once all the relevant factors are known. Somply giving certain human behaviours moralistic and judgmental labels like "lazy" or whatever explains absolutely nothing and contributes nothing to the solution.

Obviously, psychiatric disorders are outside normally functioning behavior so being angry is not an disorder. Having an explosive temper over the least little thing probably is.

[Warpy]

13. Have you ever known an exploder?

These are the bosses who throw things at employees, flying into rages seemingly over nothing, the most abusive human beings out there.

This isn't anger folks, its rage and it's sick beyond belief.

As for the hoarding, there might be a fine line between slobbism and sickness, but hoarding things like rotten milk for two years because it's impossible for you to throw it or anything else out is SICK.

These are both good classifications.

[Speck Tater]

14. I love the way charged language makes something perfectly reasonable sound crazy.

I used to know a person with "intermittent explosive disorder". Believe me that is NOT the same as getting mad now and then.

And as far as hoarding is concerned, I have a family member who has that problem, and it damn well IS a mental disorder.

But by twisting and distorting the intent of those new diagnostic criteria some ass hole commentator can make it sound like it's the mental health profession that has lost its mind.

Why do small minded people always ridicule the things they don't understand?

(ed:typo)

[Kceres]

15. Having had to clean out my Aunt's house when we moved her to assisted living....

I can tell you that there is no way in hell hoarding like that is not a mental illness. You simply can't live in that kind of filth day-in, day-out and be "normal." It was three years ago and I still have nightmares.

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[Manifestor_of_Light]

18. Hoarding can destroy families.

My mom and grandma were hoarders and it destroyed my relationship with my mom. She fell over her stuff, I got sick with sinus infections when I went to see her, it took me and my DH 6 yrs to clean out after she died, and there's still too much stuff here. She wouldn't let us touch anything when she was alive, and when I started throwing junk out a window, she dissociated and started cussing at me and growling like she was in The Exorcist. And she had no memory of it, which is how I figured out she had dissociated.

However, under the present guidelines in the DSM-IV, she would not be diagnosed as a hoarder, because one of the criteria is that the hoarding bothers the person doing the hoarding.

Mom blithely ignored her family. She had no problem with it and couldn't understand why we tried to do an intervention, which was useless.

Intermittent explosive disorder is real. I've known some people that randomly erupt like volcanoes.

Raging bosses are impossible to deal with. I had one that was a civil district and I quit. After I quit, he could not hold court because there were no court reporters in Houston that would work for him. He would yell at the clerk, or the lawyers, or me, randomly. He told one pregnant female attorney (who is now an appellate judge) that "she better not have that baby in HIS courtroom". :wtf:

:wtf: :banghead:

[HuckleB]

19. The Daily FAIL!

http://www.behavenet.com/capsules/disorders/explosivedis.htm

[supernova]

20. My ex had IED

and I believe it was part of his being a borderline personality.

It's scary living with someone who explodes like a volcano for no reason. For years after we split I had his temper tantrums in my head. :-( Sometimes he would throw things at me. or punch walls. Part of the reason I left is because I felt that at some point he would cross that line and hit me.

And the sad thing is, when I think of him now, 15 years later. We're not laughing, or making love, or out with friends. He's screaming, raging, face purplish, and spouting all kinds of hateful gibberish.

[groovedaddy]

21. This really pisses me off and I can't explain why! Now, where are my pills!?! n.t

[supernova]

22. Not funny.

[groovedaddy]

23. I meant to reply to OP and somehow replied to your post instead. I'm sorry! I used to be married

to someone with BPD, so I have some sense of what you may have gone through. I did not mean to make light of your situation at all. It's a living hell being with someone like that. My ex crossed the line several times on the physical side, endangering me and the kids while driving. It's a serious illness when left untreated.

[Odin2005]

24. I got attacked by a coworker with IED last summer.

[LeftishBrit]

25. This is the Daily Mail. Don't take it seriously.

It's the British tabloid equivalent to Rush's talk show.