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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 11:19 PM
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MEDICARE FOR ALL - forget the claim denying, price gouging, cold blooded, greedy Insurance Companies
Edited on Sun Feb-21-10 11:19 PM by WillYourVoteBCounted

http://www.medicareforall.net/


http://www.medicareforall.org/pages/Home

NOT PUBLIC OPTION!
Only a few would get to participate in public option
and the rest would be forced to help make insurance companies CEOS get richer.

The INS cos would dump all sick people as they already are doing.


MEDICARE FOR ALL.

It works,
It is humane,
It is dignified,
It is cost efficient, and
Its worked in many other countries.

MEDICARE FOR ALL:

There's no lifetime limit
Not pre-existing conditions
There's more choice in dcctors and hospitals
It is proven to work and has improved the health of our seniors

I don't mind my taxes going to Medicare for ALL,
but
If folks want to buy insurance let them do it on their own dime,
but don't make me help pay the multi million $ bonuses of Insurance Co's CEOs.


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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 11:37 PM
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1. K&R!!!
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demodonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 11:54 PM
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3. Medicare For All needs to be EXPANDED and IMPROVED from Medicare as it exists now.

My mother has original Medicare with very, very good supplemental insurance. Nonetheless we have had to fight tooth and nail for every scrap of care and therapy she has gotten since she had her stroke in January 2006.

Time and time again, she has been denied the care she needs and can't even get surgery or decent pain management for her unrepaired broken hip. She's been lied about, threatened with a fraudulent guardianship by a hospital (she is fully competent & still serving as a Judge of Elections!), and even threatened with JAIL.

As her fierce advocate and caregiver, I have been accused and threatened with all sorts of things as well.

This week things took an unbelievably vicious turn for the worse. We are in real trouble here and need help fast. Ladies, you know who I am so contact me by e-mail if you want details.

The point is that Medicare MUST be amended so that its coverage is comprehensive and simple, making it hard for medical providers to wiggle out of providing what sick people need.

No one should EVER have to face the pure hell my dear mother and I have for the last four years.

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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 12:03 AM
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7. thats awful
Yes it needs to be fixed.

We didn't have that experience with my Mom, for some reason.

I kept my mother for 10 years, she just passed away on January 21, 2010.

We never were turned away from any treatment and I took her to whichever doctors
she wanted.

Before I took her in to my home, she had to be hospitalized every so many years.
She became much more stable once living in our house.

Now when she was able to go for physical therapy, that was limited to a certain number of visits
per year - true.

Medicare has covered everything else for my Mom since 1988.
We've always had a rather good suppliment (it was $250.00 a month) because Mom used to get
sick alot (before I took her in).

Momma had lots of problems, high blood pressure, diabetes, congestive heart failure, thyroid, irregular heartbeat, she had a hip replacement, arthritis in her spine.

She also got a pacemaker. She had even more conditions but anyway, for some reason she was not
denied care - but she had the regular medicare and Mountain State (out of WV) BCBS.

I would contact my congressman if we had been treated that way.

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veness Donating Member (251 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 03:16 AM
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16. So sorry about your loss, Will... Peace to you. n/t
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 12:54 AM
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10. so sorry you and your dear mother have been put through hell...we went through
something similar with my mother in law..in fact since her death my hubby has had to pay so many of her hospital bills..it is over whelming..and wrong on all accounts!

And i am damn sick and tired of the propagandists here at DU that want to shove this piece of shit they call reform, that is selling us all out, down our throats!

This is not what i have worked my lifetime for with the dem party..it is dispicable at best!

I just wonder who is paying these people that are posting the propaganda off??

It makes me sick.

Good thing i can't see them face to face..it would be more than ugly!

Anyone who has faced this so called travesty of health insurance debockle knows what is being offered right now is a pile of horse shit!

And if they don't ..they don't want to know!..or they are on someone's payroll and it is not to the benefit of Americans in any way. It is a total corporate bail out package..having nothing to do with "HEALTH" OR "CARE".
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demodonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 01:15 AM
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13. Fly, I hope & pray your mother in law & husband didn't have to deal with THIS...

...it's really bad. And as I said, my mother has both original Medicare and very, very good supplemental insurance.

To correct all these problems, Medicare for All must cover everything so that no supplemental is necessary. And as I said it needs to be simple, so that these corrupt hospitals can't wiggle out of providing care.

I have NO healthcare coverage at all, so if I get sick I guess I am dead. Nice to know that my fellow Americans consider me 'expendable'.

:cry:

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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 01:20 AM
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14. Oh we have dealt with alot ..but what is being offered right now will not help you and will help
Edited on Mon Feb-22-10 01:52 AM by flyarm
very few in the future.

I say we have dealt with alot ..and i don't mean it that way...we had to watch my mother in law die ..she was put through hell...what my mother in law was put through was a disgrace and if we had been able to take her to Canada she would have not been put through the sheer hell she was put through..to her death..it makes me embarrassed to say I am American! What she was put through was malpractice and legalized murder in my book! We would not have tolerated what was done to her if she had been an animal in this country.

This health care reform is not for "Health Care ..or reform"..it is the biggest bail out package for the insurance corps/ the hospital conglomerates and big Pharma.. ever to sell out the American people,.

It is a disgrace that it can even get as far as it has.

it will benefit so few that it isn't worth the paper it is written on!

The fact is ..it will dilute and destroy more people who have insurance ( good and bad insurance alike) than it will help the number that don't have insurance.

You will be forced to pay for insurance ..and very very very lousey and limited insurance ..that won't cover you for shit..or you will be fined ..or punished federally..in whatever way they want to punish you. But add to that.. people with good insurance will see their insurance coverage drop to the shitty level..so we will all be forced to pay for shitty coverage ..or be punished and fined .

It is only a win win for the insurance big boys and Big Pharma and the big hospital conglomerates.

Trust me on this ..Hubby was VP of his union for 11 years ..he was at the negotiating tables of collective bargaining for years and years and worked extensively with the union health insurance clauses in the union contracts.
We just went to the winter Union meetings to speak directly to the union members about it..even though we are long retired.

This bill that is being put forward is a travesty to the American people..and the biggest give away to the insurance corps...with NO CARE in sight!

I will carefully wait to see what the White House puts out tommorrow ..but I am not optimistic..because it was Obama and Teamn Obama that made secret deals with Big Pharma and the Insurance big boys...and hospital conglomerates. I hope with all hope they got their wake up call in the past few elections and understand the American people will hold them accountable in the Nov Elections if they fuck us over with health care.

I certainly will hold them accountable..they have to earn my vote. And that includes everyone in my state legislature.
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Lifelong Protester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 11:49 PM
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2. I've been away most of the weekend, but want to know
Is anyone else here signed on for the virtual million person march on the 24th? Call your Senators on that day, demand MEDICARE FOR ALL
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 11:56 PM
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5. thanks for bringing that up, here's link to sign up for virtual march
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 11:55 PM
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4. Sounds like you....
...are "begrudging" the Millions/Billions that the Health Insurance CEOs are sacking away?
I mean, look at all the baseball players!
Oh, and, its ALL about the sacred "Free Market"!!!

Obama would NOT be happy with you.


"And EVERYONE has a share" shouted Milo as the American bombs began to fall on their own base.
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 11:57 PM
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6. you are right I've been
really bitter and clinging to my pistolas since I found out that my cousins in
New Zealand and Australia had medicare for ALL.

Its paid for by their taxes.

Everyone in.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 12:45 AM
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9. bvar22..I hope you don't mind but i copied one of your posts and posted it in another thread..
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PHIMG Donating Member (814 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 12:21 AM
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8. Improved Medicare for All - Cadillac reform that pays for itself
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 12:54 AM
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11. Recommend
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 01:13 AM
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12. K&R n/t
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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 01:46 AM
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15. I've taken to calling it Medicare Eligibility For All.
Medicare For All makes it sound mandatory, and seems vulnerable to the paranoia about a government takeover of the medical care delivery system.
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 08:54 AM
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17. K&R
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 04:50 PM
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18. Hear, hear!
:P
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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 09:08 PM
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19. K&R!!!
Everybody in Nobody out!
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Konstanze Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 08:22 PM
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20. Support Health Care Reform on Facebook
I don't really agree with Medicare for all and I am for the public option. I think what is really important either way is that there is a health care reform very soon. We need it. I founded a Facebook group to support the health care reform. Please join to show your solidarity. http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=323215664865&ref=ts
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