can Obama count on 51 votes in the Senate?

[excess_3]

if so, I would suggest that 51 Senators sign a
discharge petition that would bring the House version
of health care, to the floor.

then force, a REAL filibuster, with Senators reading the phone book,
quorum calls at 4 AM, etc.
the 45 or so troublemakers will eventually give up.
................................
BTW, I think the chickenshits we got now should
be forced to watch the Hollywood movie,
'Mr. Smith goes to Washington',
so they can learn how to be Senators.

[MannyGoldstein]

1. No Worries. Rahm's New "Cave Stronger, Cave Harder" Strategy Will Win The Day

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=4042575&mesg_id=4042575

No fancy tactics needed.

[elocs]

2. With 58 Senators it would be sad if the Dems could not count on 51.

If Republicans had 58 they would laugh at the idea of not getting 51.

[YewNork]

3. If there's a tie, then the VP, as President of the Senate, would break that tie.

[mlevitt]

4. Where is Jimmy Carter when we need him?

Legislative leadership starts in the White House. We have a House bill, we have Senate suggestions, but no definitive leadership from the boss. At least Jimmy got the Panama Canal, SALT II and an ABM treaty.