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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 04:13 PM
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Was Ted Kennedy's brain tumor caused by cell phone radiation?
When I first heard that Ted Kennedy had brain cancer, I wondered if this could be the reason - the very likely frequent use of a cell phone.

Now we find this story:

Ever since the fateful news last year that Senator Edward Kennedy was suffering from a brain tumor, the rumors have abounded as to its origin. Tongues wagged that he was always using a cell phone, which in turn sparked speculation as to whether that was the cause of his illness. With all due respect to the grieving Kennedy family and the late Senator himself, there should be an open discussion in the light of all the information and disinformation.

It may be only a coincidence but a report was just released yesterday on the subject of mobile phone radiation and its effects on the human brain. The title is "Cell Phones and Brain Tumors--15 Reasons for Concerns", written by an international group of scientists from the USA, Canada, Australia, Brazil, Austria, Germany, the UK, Finland, France, Greece, Ireland, Russia, Spain and Sweden. (See the link to this report at http://www.radiationresearch.org/pdfs/reasons_us.pdf)

http://www.examiner.com/x-7281-Detroit-Alternative-Medicine-Examiner~y2009m8d26-Was-Ted-Kennedys-brain-tumor-caused-by-cell-phone-radiation

:scared:

RIP SENATOR KENNEDY.

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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 04:15 PM
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1. I heard it was the new gardasil vaccine from Monsanto.
Or should I say- Monsatan?
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rcrush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 04:16 PM
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2. Are you joking?
Seriously is there really a vaccine from Monsanto?
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 04:19 PM
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5. Of course he's joking
Christ. :eyes:
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 04:23 PM
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6. Of course
If he was serious about that, they would fire him.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 04:33 PM
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10. Well, this is a joke thread.
The idea that people think cell phones gave Kennedy cancer is hilarious.

Yes, you people are being serious. But you're still hilarious.

Like the timecube guy.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 04:51 PM
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14. I have no way of knowing whether Teddy got cancer from a cell phone or not
or for that matter, even how often he used a cell phone (though I would assume he did have one)

Now that said, I'm not ready to dismiss the possibility that cell phones ARE responsible for SOME incidences of brain cancer either. It is comparable to putting your head inside a microwave, after all.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 05:00 PM
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16. We have no way of knowing if Evil Santa gave him cancer.
But anyone who's halfway intelligent knows this is bullshit.

"Now that said, I'm not ready to dismiss the possibility that cell phones ARE responsible for SOME incidences of brain cancer either."

Well, you wouldn't, Sebastian, but you'd believe anything.

"It is comparable to putting your head inside a microwave, after all."

Well sure. In the same way that an electric blanket is comparable to a thermonuclear bomb.


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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 05:05 PM
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20. Electric blankets don't contain any nuclear material.
But cellphones DO emit microwave radiation.

As for Evil Santa.... I think he's busy passing out poison candy canes (sweetened with HFCS, of course) to insurance company lobbyists.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 05:08 PM
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21. Actually, they have hundreds, maybe even thousands of atomic nuclei.
Some scientists even believe that electric blankets may contain millions or more.

"But cellphones DO emit microwave radiation."

So do electric blankets, if you want to get technical.

"As for Evil Santa.... I think he's busy passing out poison candy canes (sweetened with HFCS, of course) to insurance company lobbyists."

Is that what he does? I thought he gave magic healing crystals to GOP-paid trolls who want to make DUers look like imbeciles.
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kimmerspixelated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 05:01 PM
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18. It's not a joke to ask a question.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 05:04 PM
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19. There are such things as stupid questions.
And sometimes, yes, they should be laughed at.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 04:17 PM
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3. I rarely hold the cell phone top my ear
Just not taking chances. Besides, I like hands free chatting using the speaker.
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 04:24 PM
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7. that seems like a wise idea
I don't happen to have a cell phone. I was thinking about it I'll admit.

Now I am back on the fence with this question - do I want a cell phone or not?

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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 04:21 PM
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35. The article I read also included portable phone -- using Speaker on that now
:scared:
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 04:18 PM
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4. umm cancer runs in their family
And he was in his seventies which is also a factor. But let's ignore genetics and the biology of cancer for the woo-woo reason with absolutely no data or evidence. That's the ticket! :sarcasm:
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 04:28 PM
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8. Cancer doesn't "run" in families...
The pre-disposition does.

And there are dozens of studies linking cell phone useage to brain tumors. Especially for those who used the giant, brick sized phones of the 90's.

http://www.techtree.com/India/News/Your_Cellphone_Might_Cause_Brain_Tumor/551-105854-893.html

http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/consumerblog/2009/08/can-a-smartphone-damage-my-childs-brain.html

http://www.aboutmyarea.co.uk/Staffordshire/Cannock/WS11/News/Local-News/138945-Mobile-Phone-Brain-Tumour-Risks

These are the most recent articles I've read.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 04:35 PM
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11. So, wait...
you're saying a pre-disposition to cancer runs in families, but cancer doesn't run in families?

Wouldn't a pre-disposition to cancer running in families, ipso facto, mean that cancer also runs in families?

"And there are dozens of studies linking cell phone useage to brain tumors. Especially for those who used the giant, brick sized phones of the 90's."

There are webpages saying studies linking cancer to cell phones.

But nothing approaching legitimate science.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 04:44 PM
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12. Yes, that's what I'm saying
There is a difference. You can have a predisposition and never encounter sufficient carcinogens to actually get a cancer. It's much like the common misconception with AIDs/HIV... they don't kill people; the opportunistic diseases do.

Seems to me there were a lot of legitimate scientists putting their names and affiliations on the reports I linked.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 04:58 PM
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15. Exposure to carcinogens has nothing to do with it.
People with genetic predispositions to cancer don't get cancer because they are exposed to environmental carcinogens, they get cancer because they have a genetic predisposition.

Just because not everybody who has the predisposition to cancer gets cancer, it doesn't mean cancer doesn't run in the family.

"Seems to me there were a lot of legitimate scientists putting their names and affiliations on the reports I linked."

Bunch of fucking loons, the lot of them.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 05:10 PM
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22. Thank you, Mr. Cell Phone Company CEO...
For your expert, unbiased opinion.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 05:12 PM
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24. You're welcome, Gene Ray.
I can't believe how much money I'm getting now that Monsanto has bought out Verizon Wireless.
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dynasaw Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 04:32 PM
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9. Neurosurgeons on Dangers of Cell Phone Use
The study, by Dr. Vini Khurana, is the most devastating indictment yet published of the health risks.

Dr. Khurana warns that people should avoid using cell phones wherever possible and that governments and the mobile phone industry must take "immediate steps" to reduce exposure to their radiation.
http://www.bio-medicine.org/medicine-news-1/Mobile-Phones-3A-More-Dangerous-Than-Smoking-20376-2/
"It is anticipated that this danger has far broader public health ramifications than asbestos and smoking," says Professor Khurana. He believes that the three billion people in the world that now use the phones worldwide are at risk and that their death and illness from cell phone use could exceed the harm from smoking.

The groundbreaking study draws on growing evidence that use for 10 years or more can double the risk of brain cancer. (To learn more go to http://www.mybiopro.com/awengrove)

Cancers take at least a decade to develop, invalidating official safety assurances based on earlier studies which included few, if any, people who had used the phones for that long.

Earlier this year, the French government followed Great Britain in warning against the use of mobile phones, especially by children. Germany also advises its people to minimize handset use, and the European Environment Agency has called for exposures to be reduced.

Professor Khurana is a neurosurgeon who has received 14 awards over the past 16 years. He has published more than three dozen scientific papers and reviewed more than 100 studies es on the effects of mobile phones. He has put the results on a brain surgery website, and a paper based on the research is currently being peer-reviewed for publication in a scientific journal.

Noting that malignant brain tumors represent "a life-ending diagnosis," he adds: "We are currently experiencing a reactively unchecked and dangerous situation." He fears that "unless the industry and governments take immediate and decisive steps," the incidence of malignant brain tumors and associated death rate will be observed to rise globally within a decade from now, by which time it may be far too late to intervene medically."

Ofcourse the American public is not about to get any warnings--cell phones are BIG business. :-(
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 04:45 PM
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13. BIG business...
There you have it.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 05:01 PM
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17. Chemtrails.
Proves everything.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 05:11 PM
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23. Who pissed in your Wheaties?
I'm seriously getting tired of you... weird.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 05:12 PM
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25. The Illuminati.
They're in league with the Joos.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 04:44 PM
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36. I am more than grateful for these findings


Even if they are less than perfect, I'm going to use other options.... I use the speaker phone for cell and home whenever
possible.
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Jane Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 05:50 PM
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26. Well even if it turns out that cell phones make rose petals fall before
your every step, for two days now I've heard each and every friend of Teddy say that he whenever they had anything good OR bad happen that Teddy was the first one to call them.
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rj5690 Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-28-09 03:24 AM
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27. No. What nonsense.
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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-28-09 10:44 AM
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28. peer reviewed abstract
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19328536?ordinalpos=21&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

1: Surg Neurol. 2009 Sep;72(3):205-14; discussion 214-5. Epub 2009 Mar 27. LinksCell phones and brain tumors: a review including the long-term epidemiologic data.
Khurana VG, Teo C, Kundi M, Hardell L, Carlberg M.
Australian National University, Australia. vgkhurana@gmail.com

BACKGROUND: The debate regarding the health effects of low-intensity electromagnetic radiation from sources such as power lines, base stations, and cell phones has recently been reignited. In the present review, the authors attempt to address the following question: is there epidemiologic evidence for an association between long-term cell phone usage and the risk of developing a brain tumor? Included with this meta-analysis of the long-term epidemiologic data are a brief overview of cell phone technology and discussion of laboratory data, biological mechanisms, and brain tumor incidence. METHODS: In order to be included in the present meta-analysis, studies were required to have met all of the following criteria: (i) publication in a peer-reviewed journal; (ii) inclusion of participants using cell phones for > or = 10 years (ie, minimum 10-year "latency"); and (iii) incorporation of a "laterality" analysis of long-term users (ie, analysis of the side of the brain tumor relative to the side of the head preferred for cell phone usage). This is a meta-analysis incorporating all 11 long-term epidemiologic studies in this field. RESULTS: The results indicate that using a cell phone for > or = 10 years approximately doubles the risk of being diagnosed with a brain tumor on the same ("ipsilateral") side of the head as that preferred for cell phone use. The data achieve statistical significance for glioma and acoustic neuroma but not for meningioma. CONCLUSION: The authors conclude that there is adequate epidemiologic evidence to suggest a link between prolonged cell phone usage and the development of an ipsilateral brain tumor.

PMID: 19328536
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tinrobot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 12:11 AM
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29. He's right handed, the tumor was on his left side.
I'd think the tumor would be on the side where he holds the phone to his ear.
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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 11:45 AM
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31. I'm right handed and always use my left ear for the phone
Why? I think it is because my other hand is free to write things down, or do whatever. Occasionally I use the right ear, but it actually feels somewhat weird to do that.

But, if he always held the phone on his right ear, then yes, that is logical.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 12:27 AM
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30. It was diary.
Old people drink lots of diary. I know this because a trained chemist told me. :evilgrin:
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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 11:46 AM
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32. How do you drink diaries?
I never even heard of old people writing much in diaries, much less drinking them.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 12:51 PM
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33. It's a joke reference to another thread. nt
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rj5690 Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 05:17 PM
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34. Not likely
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