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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 01:07 AM
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Roll Mr. Orwell, Roll: HPV Vaccine Required of Immigrants
Big pharma finds another way to make money, by taking it from the desperate immigrants who
have no choice if they want to move to our country. Merck makes its money.

HPV Vaccine Required of Immigrants, but not Citizens

Wednesday, 03 Sep 2008

A single dose of Gardasil costs $162, and a complete vaccination requires three doses.

By ROXANNA HAYNES
FOX8 News

GREENSBORO, N.C. (WGHP) -- In order to become a permanent, legal resident of the U.S., immigrants now must receive a vaccine that is not required of U.S. citizens.

The Human Papillomavirus (HPV) vaccine -- known as Gardasil -- is one of five the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services recently added to the required list. The vaccine works to prevent cervical cancer, the leading cause of cancer death in women worldwide.

Ginky-Lee Torres, an immigration lawyer, questions the government's decision to impose requirements on immigrants that go above and beyond those on citizens.

...At $162 per dose, the three-dose vaccine is expensive. "It's a financial burden, in addition to every other burden they have financially in the applications," said Torres.


Gardasil hasn't been tested to see if IT causes cancer, nor if it would cause infertility.



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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:39 AM
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1. Extortion and Racketeering. n/t
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:52 AM
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2. the intent is to make it mandatory for everyone, step by step.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 07:10 AM
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3. Ladies and gentlemen, I present yet another case of
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 07:43 AM
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4. .
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mhatrw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 06:10 PM
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5. What a racket! n/t
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antigop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 09:06 PM
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6. It's not just the HPV vaccine that has been added -- CHECK THIS OUT!
Edited on Sun Sep-07-08 09:09 PM by antigop
http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=902252b10f45b110VgnVCM1000004718190aRCRD&vgnextchannel=098daca797e63110VgnVCM1000004718190aRCRD

USCIS Changes Vaccination Requirements To Adjust Status To Legal Permanent Resident

Washington – U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) announced today a revised list of vaccines required for applicants seeking to adjust status to become legal permanent residents. This revision follows guidance from the Department of Health and Human Services, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

CDC’s revised Technical Instructions to Civil Surgeons for Vaccination Requirements require the following age-appropriate additional vaccinations to adjust status to legal permanent resident:



* Rotavirus
* Hepatitis A
* Meningococcal
* Human papillomavirus
* Zoster

The requirements for these new vaccines went into effect on July 1, 2008, however CDC approved a 30-day grace period for any medical exam conducted before August 1, 2008. At that time the new vaccinations, if appropriate, must be administered in order for USCIS to approve the applicant for adjustment of status.



http://www.uscis.gov/files/article/FAQ_TB_Vaccination_Requirements_072408.pdf

VACCINATIONS
Q: What are the new vaccination requirements?
The CDC has revised its vaccination requirements. As of July 1, 2008, the following additional vaccinations are required in order to adjust status to legal permanent resident:

Rotavirus

Hepatitis A

Meningococcal

Human papillomavirus

Zoster

NOTE: Some of these vaccinations are required for certain age groups only. During the examination with the civil surgeon, he or she will review the vaccination history, and may determine that certain vaccinations are not necessary or not appropriate. Specific information on vaccines, including tables on age-appropriate vaccines and ACIP recommendations, are available at CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases (NCIRD) website: http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines
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antigop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 09:29 PM
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7. Rotavirus, Hepatitis A, Meningococcal, and Zoster have also been added as requirements n/t
Edited on Sun Sep-07-08 09:30 PM by antigop
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 12:47 PM
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11. Why are those vaccines bad?
Do you want people spreading Hep A in this country? Have you ever seen the vaccination requirements for going to places like Africa? There's a reason they exist.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 09:34 PM
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8. "Gardasil hasn't been tested to see if IT causes cancer"
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 10:30 PM
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9. From Merck insert: "GARDASIL has not been evaluated for the potential to cause carcinogenicity..."
Maybe you should condescend to yourself?

From Merck's package insert for Gardasil:

"GARDASIL has not been evaluated for the potential to cause carcinogenicity or genotoxicity."

(page 8 of package insert)
http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_circulars/g/gardasil/gardasil_pi.pdf
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 11:21 AM
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10. What vaccine has ever caused carcinogenicity or genotoxicity?
Even when certain vaccines have proved dangerous, it was not in those ways. Vaccines do not stay in your system long-term. They *may* have immediate ill-effects, which if very serious, could cause death or long-term disability.
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 01:59 PM
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12. riiiight, just test it out on millions of girls - cheaper for big pharma that way

No need to test medicines to see if they are harmful, as long as its just being
injected into the human body!

Better to just experiment on millions of people.

We dont want to have safe vaccines, we want to take risks! Yeah thats the ticket.
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 02:00 PM
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13. shorter answer: Hear no evil, see no evil
speak no evil.

That way no one can sue big pharma.

Don't ask, don't test, just ASSume that its safe, cause a corporation told you so.
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 02:13 PM
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14. Why don't you answer the question?
What vaccine has ever caused carcinogenicity or genotoxicity?
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varkam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 09:21 PM
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16. Are you all still trying to smack some sense into them?
Yeesh. I applaud your tenacity.
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 11:45 AM
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19. who knows.? Do you believe that vaccines NEVER have done those things, if so
please provide scientific evidence.
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 01:03 PM
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21. Have you got any evidence to present, or is it all just emotional appeal?
There is no reason to believe that Gardasil causes cancer. Just as there is no reason to believe that Gardasil caused a black hole to develop in the World Trade Center Building 7.

Every time your evidence is tested, it fails. Then you change the subject.

If that's all you've got, you've got nothing.
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 04:52 PM
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26. Merck put it on their package insert - ask Merck why they made the statement
why do you think that Merck went to the trouble to state on their Gardasil
package insert that the vaccine had not been tested to see if it caused cancer?

I don't have to explain why Merck did that, I am stating that MERCK themselves
said that.

Ask Merck.

They put it on their insert, so if you think it is a stupid comment, then
say something to the big boys at Merck.
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 06:46 PM
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28. You are changing the subject again--dodging the question.
There is no evidence that Gardasil causes cancer.

You have no evidence that Gardasil causes cancer.

Merck did not say on their package insert that it may cause cancer.

Your obsessive paranoia about Gardasil seems to have driven you over the edge.

So now we have evidence that Gardasil causes obsessive paranoia. But only if you DON'T take the shot.

I hope you have a speedy recovery.
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mhatrw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 03:32 AM
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29. Where are the studies showing that Gardasil does not cause cancer?
Has Merck released its carcinogenicity studies of each of Gardasil's ingredients?

Can we read them somewhere?
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 06:58 AM
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31. Where are the studies showing that Gardasil does not cause black holes?
The evidence that Gardasil causes cancer is the same as the evidence that Gardasil causes black holes.

You are just making up accusations to scare people. You have no science to support your scare tactics.

Your intense hatred fro Merck has made you do and say some incredibly stupid things.

You are beginning to sound just like GWB with his "terra, terra, terra" campaign or his futile search for WMDs.

Fear is not the answer, and all you have to offer is fear.
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mhatrw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 12:08 PM
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36. I'm just asking to see Merck's toxicity studies.
What's the problem? They had to do toxicity studies, didn't they? So why can't we see the results?
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 01:04 PM
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37. You're good at making up facts. Why don't you make up your own.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 01:29 PM
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38. They invented a new distraction because their previous scare tactics didn't cause widespread panic.
Terra! Terra! Terra!
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mhatrw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 06:22 PM
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15. How would this be measured?
How could we scientifically prove or disprove the longterm carcinogenicity of vaccines in humans? Just wondering.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 02:59 AM
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17. Find out whether people who have a vaccine are more likely to get cancer...
than people who don't get the vaccine. (Controlling of course for other factors - there is no point in using extremely poor people with no access to vaccines as the control group, as they may indeed be less likely to get cancer because they die young before the usual age for getting cancer!)

Or, nowadays, investigate whether vaccines affect cell DNA.
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mhatrw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 12:30 PM
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20. Can you cite any relevant studies that have done this? n/t
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 01:05 PM
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22. There have been many epidemiological studies of who gets cancer..
Edited on Tue Sep-09-08 01:07 PM by LeftishBrit
None have found vaccines to be one of the risks.

In any case: can you come up with any pathway by which a vaccine *could* cause cancer? (Unless, I suppose, it was contaminated by something else that did. But not vaccines themselves.)
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mhatrw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 02:01 PM
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24. Can you cite one that states this cofactor was actually analyzed?
Edited on Tue Sep-09-08 02:02 PM by mhatrw
I am not disbelieving you. I would just like to see any relevant study.
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antigop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 09:18 AM
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32. Merck's Zostavax : " .... has not been evaluated for its carcinogenic or mutagenic potential,
Edited on Thu Sep-11-08 09:26 AM by antigop
or its potential to
impair fertility."

Zostavax tm is Merck's Zoster vaccine, isn't it?

http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_circulars/z/zostavax/zostavax_pi.pdf

Page 7

13 NONCLINICAL TOXICOLOGY
13.1 Carcinogenesis, Mutagenesis, Impairment of Fertility
ZOSTAVAX has not been evaluated for its carcinogenic or mutagenic potential, or its potential to
impair fertility.


Zoster vaccine is also on the list of requirements.
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antigop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 09:39 AM
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34. Merck's RotaTeq: "...has not been evaluated for its carcinogenic or mutagenic potential
or its potential to impair fertility."

http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_circulars/r/rotateq/rotateq_pi.pdf

Page 8

13 NONCLINICAL TOXICOLOGY
13.1 Carcinogenesis, Mutagenesis, Impairment of Fertility
RotaTeq has not been evaluated for its carcinogenic or mutagenic potential or its potential to impair
fertility.



----------------------------INDICATIONS AND USAGE--------------------------
RotaTeq® is indicated for the prevention of rotavirus gastroenteritis in
infants and children


So RotaTeq(registered trademark) is Merck's rotavirus vaccine?

And Rotavirus vaccine has also been added to the new list of requirements?



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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:07 AM
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35. Nor have they been tested for the potential to create anti-matter.
Is this Cern all over again?
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 01:40 PM
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39. Can you prove that getting this vaccine won't cause new nostril pimples?
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 02:14 PM
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40. I'm absolutely certain
that the anti-matter implosion that brought down WTC 7 was caused by an overdose of Gardasil. But I can't prove it because Merck has hidden the records.
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antigop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 09:54 AM
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18. WYVBC, any info on why HPV vaccine was added to the list? n/t
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 04:54 PM
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27. I have no idea.
sorry, but I just posted the article. Don't know why the gubmt did this.

I think its a horrible idea, but the Gubmt also uses the military to
experiment on.

I.e the Anthrax vaccine that the GAO said wasn't safe, and Rumsfeld admitted
he hadn't been injected with.
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antigop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 01:39 PM
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23. I'll ask again -- why was HPV vaccine added to this list? n/t
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antigop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 11:04 AM
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25. crickets n/t
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mhatrw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 03:34 AM
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30. Because because because because
because of the wonderful things it does!
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antigop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 09:22 AM
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33. The new vaccines on the list... how many are sold by Merck? n/t
Edited on Thu Sep-11-08 10:08 AM by antigop
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mhatrw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 01:15 AM
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43. Good question! n/t
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tburnsten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 04:34 PM
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41. Of course immigration requirements are stricter
We wouldn't deport our sex offenders to other countries (though it would be excellent) and other countries wouldn't accept our sex offenders. Obviously that is different than a vaccine requirement, but the point is that immigrants have always, will always, and should always have a different set of requirements than life long citizens. It may seem a little cold, but our primary responsibility is ourselves, and requiring vaccines that will control and eventually probably play a role in the elimination of certain diseases is a very fair way to help insure the people who are moving here are going to be an asset, not a liability for the country.
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mhatrw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 02:24 AM
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42. Yeah! Keeping out those furiners' filthy HPV is our first priority!
Oh, wait. Gardasil can't cure or stop the transmission of extant HPV.

So why is the $500 Gardasil regimen on the mandatory vaccine list? To possibly protect US citizens from spreading their own HPV to around to each other indirectly by having a lot of unprotected sex with the same recent wild and crazy unvaccinated immigrants?

:rofl:

Or maybe it's just to make Merck money. Ya think?
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