Autistics Clinically Proven Mercury Posioned; and virtually all recover after detox/nutrititional

[philb]

therapy

Autistics Clinically Proven Mercury Poisoned; Porphyrin patterns indicative of clinical mercury toxicity, while neurotypical children and their neurotypical sibling controls did not.
Press Release
Contact:s: CoMeD Director ; CoMeD Sci. Advisor
WASHINGTON, DC – Recent peer-reviewed scientific/medical studies by Nataf et al. (2006) and by Geier and Geier (2006) leave little doubt that many children with autism spectrum disorders (ASDs) are indeed mercury poisoned. These studies utilized urinary porphyrin profile analysis (UPPA) to assess body-burden and physiological effects of mercury in autistics. Today, any parent, physician, or healthcare provider can easily confirm whether a non-chelated autistic is mercury poisoned by having UPPA testing run at Laboratory Corporation of America (LabCorp) (CLIA-certified, Test#120980) or Laboratoire Philippe Auguste (ISO-certified, Urine Porphyrin Profile).


Recovering From Autism: A Local Florida Doctor Says It's Possible
By Patricia Crosby First Coast News January 22, 2007
JACKSONVILLE, FL -- When Dr. Julie Buckley talks about autism and recovery, it's more than just her life's work, it's personal. Dr. Buckley's 8 1/2 year old daughter Dani was diagnosed as profoundly autistic at the age of 4. "I think the thing that will always haunt me, was the waking up in the morning, the crying and the moaning. As a mom, all I wanted to do was it make it better," says Dr. Buckley.
And, as a pediatrician Dr. Buckley found a way to make Dani better. Through research and contacts she learned about DAN which stands for Defeat Autism Now. She delved back into her medical books and is now one of four leading DAN doctors in Florida, treating more than 600 children with autism locally and around the world.
After a few years of using the DAN approach Dani is now considered gifted in her third grade class. "Her recovery was pretty dramatic, but for each child recovery happens at a different pace," says Dr. Buckley. "All of my patients are either in recovery or are recovering, and all are feeling better," she says. (DAN protocol is chelation plus nutritional & enzyme balancing)
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=74021
Julie Buckley: Thimerosal was never in vaccines originally. We can go back to doing it that way. Yes, it's more expensive, but the cost of doing it that way is so infinitesimal compared to the cost of managing the consequences of unnecessary exposure that it becomes ridiculous really to contemplate doing it any other way.
And then there's aluminum. It is my understanding that we are capable of making vaccines that use calcium as an adjuvant. We can make vaccines differently. It's not difficult to do. It will be expensive, but it will be much less expensive than managing a generation of very, very, very sick children when they grow up.
http://www.jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/121807/met_226363926.shtml

"Chelation treatments, used to remove metals from the body, have reduced noah's lead levels and have made a huge impact.
"It was really powerful and amazing for us to watch. It was literally watching a miracle right in front of our eyes," said noah's father, Rob Breakiron.
"We have a child here who is virtually indistinguishable from his peers and that's certainly not what he was a year or two years ago," added Pediatrician David Berger, MD." http://www.ageofautism.com/

[enki23]

1. really want to hurt your kid? get them unnecessary chelation therapy

Perhaps unsurprisingly, both studies cited in the "autistics clinically proven..." bit are overwhelmingly tainted. The Geiers were found to have plagarized a large portion of their article, to have faked an ethics committee on which mark geier, his wife, his son, one of their business associates, and a lawyer involved in vaccine cases, all sat at the time. The study their "ethics committee" approved was to test the drug Lupron in autistic children, along with chelation therapy. Lupron is a compound used in rare cases of extremely early puberty, and sometimes as a method of chemical castration(!) for sex offenders. It shouldn't be much of a surprise that it might change a kid's behavior one way or another, autistic or not. Sounds like an ethical bunch, doesn't it? Then there's Nataf, who was required to, and did affirm he had no conflict of interest when submitting his article, yet somehow managed to neglect to note that he was the founder of the Laboratoire Auguste Philippe mentioned above. The very one selling its services for the porphyrin profiling. Why is it, do you think, that the field of vaccines->mercury->autism research is led by such ethically challenged assholes? These aren't minor omissions we're talking about here. It's one thing to *have* an obvious conflict of interest. It's quite a few steps further down the road when you lie to cover one up.

http://www.newscientist.com/channel/health/mg19426094.200-us-vaccines-on-trial-over-link-to-autism.html

[silverojo]

2. Who cares?

It's the kids who are important. If the treatments are helping them, that's what matters.

[TZ]

3. Oh you mean helping like this?

Doctor Charged in Autistic Boy's Death
By JOE MANDAK, Associated Press Writer
Wed Aug 22, 2:49 PM

PITTSBURGH - A doctor was charged with involuntary manslaughter Wednesday for administering a chemical treatment that state police say killed a 5-year-old autistic boy.

The child, Abubakar Tariq Nadama, went into cardiac arrest at Dr. Roy E. Kerry's office immediately after undergoing chelation therapy on Aug. 23, 2005.

Chelation removes heavy metals from the body and is approved by the Food and Drug Administration for treating acute heavy metal poisoning, but not for treating autism. Some people who believe autism is caused by a mercury-containing preservative once used in vaccines say chelation may also help autistic children.

The boy's parents had moved from England to the Pittsburgh area to seek treatment for his autism. They have filed a wrongful death suit against Kerry, and the Department of State is trying to revoke his license.
http://www.comcast.net/news/national/index.jsp?cat=DOMESTIC&fn=/2007/08/22/745592.html&cvqh=itn_autisticboy
People who push this therapy are not just frauds. They are DANGEROUS. If the FDA let a corportation push an untried untested unproven highly dangerous medical procedure people here would be screaming bloody murder. Lets not forget that these desperate parent are also paying quacks a lot of money to endanger their children's lives. Anyone who advocates this procedure:1) has no clue about the real causes of autism (genetics) 2) and are doing a basically illegal procedure.Would you want your kid operated on by someone who had never gone to medical school? Or graduated last in their class..OR had been denied a medical license for malpractice, as a lot of these quacks have been?

[philb]

11. There are lots of types of detoxifcation protocols. Not all doctors are knowledgable or follow safe

practices.

The clinics treating autism, called DAN(Defeat Autism Now) doctors do extensive tests and only do detoxification for those needing it. But they consistently find virtually all need it. And as documented, the clinics have overwhelming success at treating these kids. No other methods have comparable success.
I've even provided lots of case histories of the kids being treated and could provide more.

You or others saying something doesn't make it so.
Who actually knows what is going on are the ones who treat and test these kids, and the findings of the hundreds of thousands of medical tests. These doctors are acknowledged as the tops of their field, and in huge demand from parents all over the U.S. and other countries to treat their kids, due to their consistent good results.

[TZ]

16. The FDA, NIH, NIAID, and all the scientists saying so makes it so

BTW- I know your credentials. YOU HAVE NO BIOLOGY CREDENTIALS. I am a medical researcher, Warpy's a nurse, Chicago MD is a doctor. I think WE know what we are talking about. Autism is a chronic problem. Its treatable, but anyone who claims a cure is a con artist, as I think YOU are. BTW, I regard people who use non-FDA approved treatments like chelation as one step up from Nazi experimenters.They are using children in EXPERIMENTAL (except thats its known to be deadly) treatments..Using children as a guinea pig..extremely unethical. And probably something that will get many put in jail too. Sorry, non-FDA approved means it's ILLEGAL TO PERFORM. No ethical medical practicioner would do it.
So lets see, you have no valid scientific data. You have no biology degree. You have no ethics. And you are advocating to desperate ignorant people a "cure" for a chronic problem. And you are advocating something that hurts and kills children. FYI, if I met someone like you in real life, I would have no problem letting the FDA become aware of what you are doing. Its people like you that the FDA was established to regulate.

[enki23]

30. hey now, you forgot someone.

Just a PhD toxicology grad student with a previous M.S. in environmental toxicology here (yeah, I know we're mostly invisible, but still...).

;)

the saddest thing about the mercury=autism link is that it really wasn't an unreasonable hypothesis. it's just that it's been pretty well studied, and completely failed to hold up. that's actually unfortunate, as it would have been nice to have such an easy answer. worse, since autistic spectrum disorders are so damned "syndrome-y," it wouldn't be surprising if there *were* some cases of actual mercury poisoning contributing to someone's diagnosis of autism. nor would it be surprising if there were people with genetic predispositions to be especially sensitive to particular environmental toxicants, like mercury. it all starts looking like cancer, sooner or later, and you have no damned idea what the hell to say the actual "cause" is. probably because there isn't just one. perhaps, like cancer, autism is just a descriptive word for a pattern that shows up when certain of your body's control processes go awry. or maybe not. in any case, we know for damned sure that mercury toxicity isn't behind the epidemic (if there is actually an epidemic), even if it *were* to be shown (and it hasn't been even once, to my knowledge) that it was behind some of the diagnosed cases.

[TZ]

31. Oh sorry...

But I didn't know your creds or would have listed them:)
I think high level mercury exposure probably does do bad things. However considering that the levels of mercury in vaccines are miniscule compared to say, whats found in fish, its really kinda ridiculous. But I agree. Probably some people are more sensitive than others. My BIL was just saying the other day that he played with the liquid mercury in elementary school in his bare hands. And he's okay..or at least my little sister says so.....:crazy:

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[chicagomd]

8. Wow, who cares?

Who cares that it kills kids?

Who cares that emotionally vulnerable parents are being taken advantage of by modern day snake oil sales men?

Who cares that these "results" cannot be independently verified or reproduced by any type of valid scientific study besides scientists with a huge conflict of interest?

Who cares that measles are on the rise in Great Britain because of scare tactics used by people like our very own philb here because a quack named Wakefield took $250,000 from a lawyer?

Anyone who gives a shit about their own children and family should care. Anyone who cares about the scientific process and public health in general should care.

[TZ]

4. So many scientific inaccuracies in there I don't know where to begin

How about that Thimerosol is not in 99.99% of vaccines and hasn't been for 10 years. Isn't that when the "epidemic" started? About 10 years ago? Hmmm, maybe the thimerosol isn't responsible as NIH/NIAID has proved multiple times?
As for adjuvants..Aluminum hydoxide (alum) is not the same as aluminum (if you had a clue about chemistry you might know that- just like table salt NaCl is not the toxic chlorine or the highly explosive sodium). And its used as an adjuvant and been proven safe in thousands of clinical trials (not to mention pre-clinical safety and toxicity testing on animals). As for calcium being used...some compounds just don't work well as adjuvants with certain vaccines..so why add an adjuvant that didn't work?
Once again philb, you don't just post the worst kind of pseudoscience bunk, but DANGEROUS pseudoscience bunk. Why don't you post the multiple articles about people getting hurt or killed by inappropriate chelation therapy...

[philb]

13. Disinformation by you again. Thimerosal was in virtually all of vaccines relevant to these posts

And the level of mercury and other toxic metals in all of the kids being treated in the clinics treating the autistic kids is measured, by lots of medcial tests. Before and during detox. The results are a matter of record. I've posted a lot of the results.
And a summary of some of the results can be found on the medical lab web sites and in their literature.

For these kids the high levels of mercury was documented by medical lab tests that are a matter of record. And the doctors have summarized their findings. Some of the labs have also summarized some of their findings.

Similar to the fact that hundreds of thousands of lab tests have documented that dental amalgam is the largest source of mercury in most people with amalgam fillings, and that they have on average 5 to 10 times as much mercury exposure as those without.
www.flcv.com/damspr1.html
and that the high exposures commonly cause over 30 chronic conditions, from which the patients recover or signif. improve after amalgam replacement
www.flcv.com/hgremove.html

[TZ]

17. Nope more bullshit

As for my knowledge. I worked with one of the world's foremost experts on vaccines at NIH, 250 papers and several books, BERNIE. I can tell you it is PHYSICALLY impossible for even kids that had the vaccines with thimerosol (which was eliminated in them 10 years ago) to have the levels of mercury you are claiming. What happens? Spontaneous reproduction of mercury when it magically touches human flesh?
A couple of other points. Mercury isn't quite as toxic to people as they used to think. Its now believed that even eating fish with potential mercury in it is okay,even for pregnant women.
FYI, those metal tests that you push (melisa if I recall) are bullshit tests from what I understand. You are looking for something and you seem to specifically always find it. Why? I think because its thats what you want to find.
Ugh any MD who makes the unsubstantiated claims you do would lose his license, and with good cause.
As for your dental amalgam claims..laughable and stupid..You don't even understand how the diseases you say you "cure" works.
Thats like thinking you can send a rocket to the moon without understanding basic physics.
You are a fraud, Philb and there's nobody on this board with an ounce of intelligence or education that doesn't know it.

[Orrex]

27. I wish that I could K&R a reply

Your post demolishes the entire vaccines-cause-autism bullshit propaganda and simultaneously summarizes exactly why Philb's posts on the subject should be ignored.

:yourock:

[philb]

43. none of what you say is entirely accurate; my info is supported by

actual peer-reviewed studies and hundreds of thousands of clinical cases that have been documented.
If you aren't going to read the studies or follow the clinical cases, i would guess you are a lost cause.
But for those who are really concerned, the evidence is clear and overwhelming. Lots of kids have been killed or signif. harmed by vaccines, as documented by Gov't agencies at URLs I've posted; and millions of kids received extremely high levels of extremely toxic neurotoxins in vacines along with other toxic metal exposures that have been documented to have caused millions of cases of autism, ADHD, eczema, learning disabilites, and other developmental disabilities and conditions. This is a matter of record and I know that there is no credible evidence to the contrary, and could not be. There is no credible expert I'm aware of that has made a credible case to the contrary. I'm still waiting to see it. My direct sources that provide my information include experienced researchers(PhDs & MDs), MDs, medical lab documentation, etc.

What is it specifically that I've posted that you have evidence is not accurate?

[TZ]

57. everything. Period.

[trotsky]

5. There will come a day, Bernie (or Bernie Jr.)...

that you are held responsible for the misinformation you spread and deadly treatments you recommend. You even start off with a totally BOGUS and FALSE linking of two statements. You are insinuating that it's "clinically proven" autistic children will recover following chelation, when nothing could be further from the truth. Chelation has killed more autistic children than it has helped. Since it's helped NONE, that's an easy statement to make.

Secondly, the "UPPA" test is notoriously unreliable. The same child can test high one time, and low the next.

And please do address turtlensue's observation that thimerosal hasn't been in routine childhood immunizations for almost 10 years - even longer in other countries - yet there has been NO decline in autism cases anywhere. That fact alone FLIES IN THE FACE of all the anti-vaxers nonsense but they refuse to acknowledge it.

[philb]

10. You are the one spreading misinformation- and you don't have a case

The expereince of the clinics in all states treating autism is the same. I've posted the statements of the MDs in several of those clinics, what they find is that the kids are virtually all mercury toxic and also with other toxic metals like lead, etc.
And they clearly got the mercury thimerosal from vaccines.
And the experience of the clinics is all the same, regarding outcome. They all improve signif. after metals detoxification and nutritional measures to deal with the metabolic blockages that mercury causes. I've posted documentation from the medical literature that mercury is documented to block virtually all body metabolic processes at very low levels of exposure.
The've done hundreds of thousands of tests by medical labs, and the results were clear. Mercury toxicity. And they've treated thousands and the results are similar.

The test discussed here is widely studied and documented in the medical literature as a test for mercury toxicity. There is scientific consensus on this like most of the other things you keep bringing up. Find me a credible expert who disagrees about this test and what it means.
They find that not only those with autism, but also most with CFS, MS, Lupus, etc. are mercury toxic when they do these tests, though the source is amalgam rather than vaccines and the clinics testing them are often different from these.


J.S. Woods et al, “Urinary porphyrin profiles as biomarker of mercury exposure: studies on dentists”, J Toxicol Environ Health, 40(2-3):1993, p235-; & “Altered porphyrin metabolites as a biomarker of mercury exposure and toxicity”, Physiol Pharmocol, 1996,74(2):210-15, & Canadian J Physiology and Pharmacology, Feb 1996; & M.D.Martin et al, “Validity of urine samples for low-level mercury exposure assessment and relationship to porphyrin and creatinine excretion rates”, J Pharmacol Exp Ther, Apr 1996 & J.S. Woods et al, “Effects of Porphyrinogenic Metals on Coproporphrinogen Oxidase in Liver and Kidney” Toxicology and Applied Pharmacology, Vol 97, 183-190, 1989; & (b) Strubelt O, Kremer J, et al, Comparative studies on the toxicity of mercury, cadmium, and copper toward the isolated perfused rat liver. J Toxicol Environ Health. 1996 Feb 23;47(3):267-83; & (c)Kaliman PA, Nikitchenko IV, Sokol OA, Strel'chenko EV. Regulation of heme oxygenase activity in rat liver during oxidative stress induced by cobalt chloride and mercury chloride. Biochemistry (Mosc). 2001 Jan;66(1):77-82; &(d) Kumar SV, Maitra S, Bhattacharya S. In vitro binding of inorganic mercury to the plasma membrane of rat platelet affects Na+-K+-Atpase activity and platelet aggregation. Biometals. 2002 Mar;15(1):51-7: & (e) A cascade analysis of the interaction of mercury and coproporphyrinogen oxidase (CPOX) polymorphism on the heme biosynthetic pathway and porphyrin production. Heyer NJ, Bittner AC, Echeverria D, Woods JS. Toxicol Lett. 2006 Feb 20;161(2):159-66. Epub 2005 Oct 7.

I don't understand why you keep saying such things since the science and results of the hundreds of thousands of tests by MDs on these thousands of patients is clear and consistent, and I've never seen any evidence that there is credible evidence to the contrary, and you surely haven't presented any. I know that you can't, since the evidence has long been clear and consistent.

[trotsky]

24. Ah, the old "I'm rubber and you're glue" defense.

Clever. :rofl:

[dropkickpa]

26. It's proven effective

on playgrounds around the world! See what this study says about that http://www.imrubberyoureglueresearchinstitute.com

[philb]

44. I've provided documentation and lots of clinical case documention- you haven't

If you have a case present it; if not you are playing games

[philb]

52. I'm Junior, but Bernie uses the same computer and is usually available to help with information

I'm Junior, but Bernie uses the same computer and is usually available to help with information sources, etc. as needed. I often ask for his help. He helps write some of the posts on these topics. And I snip things he's put together before. You may remember that he has posted a lot in the past under his ID. These days he's more involved with actual condition forums, such as Yahoo Groups on MS, autism, etc. Plus spending his time on research and coordination of coordinators in a patients support organization dealing with such conditions.

[trotsky]

53. Oh you've provided plenty of links, but absolutley NOTHING that supports you.

You have nothing, philb. Just misinformation and assertion. YOU are the one playing games - and innocents will suffer for it.

[Warpy]

6. WARNING: this is rubbish and children have died from chelation

therapy.

If you have an autistic child, please research the condition and what to do about it on reliable sites, not on alternative sites with wacky agendas.

The bad news is that autism is turning out to be a congenital illness. There was nothing you did as parents to cause it and there is nothing you can do to cure it. However, reputable sites will inform you as to the best way to cope with it, to bring your autistic child to the highest functioning level s/he can achieve.

There is no magic fix and chelation therapy is dangerous.

[chicagomd]

7. More bullsh*t from philb

It could not be cause of this study released yesterday, could it?

http://archpsyc.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/full/65/1/19

You know, the one that concludes:
"The DDS data do not show any recent decrease in autism in California despite the exclusion of more than trace levels of thimerosal from nearly all childhood vaccines. The DDS data do not support the hypothesis that exposure to thimerosal during childhood is a primary cause of autism."

Smoke and mirrors, Bernie. I mean as a scientist, you should be totally ok with full childhood vaccines now, right?

Such a complete refutation of Geier's science should at least make you rethink your position if you have any shred of objectivity left. Somehow I doubt will, or that you do.

[LeftishBrit]

9. Most countries don't use thimerasol in vaccines for children and haven't for some years

In the UK, most children don't get the flu vaccine, and other vaccines haven't contained thimerasol for a very long time.

Yet this hasn't affected the rate of autism.

And frankly: it might be one thing to warn of a danger, even an imagined one; but to state that it's clinically proved that 'virtually all (autistic children) recover after detox/nutrititional therapy' is treading on very dangerous grounds. If there were anything that made even a significant minority of autistic children 'recover fully', then by now this would be in large-scale use, and 'Big Pharma' would make sure it got its patent on it. To say that it's been 'clinically proved' when it clearly hasn't could give many parents false hopes, and could eventually put you at very serious risk of getting the hell sued out of you; so I'd advise caution!

[philb]

14. You also are playing word games here- not responsive

changing the subject

The 2 articles came from the newsletter of the largest Austism Association of Parents of Austic Kids in the U.S. What they said was that the clinics treating autism have by tests determined that most of those suffering from autism are mercury toxic,
and that the experience of the DAN doctor clinics treating autism have demonstrated that
the majority recover or signif. improve after metals detoxification and nutritional measures to deal with the blocked metabolic processes that mercury is known to cause, and has been demonstrated to do by their experience treating many thousands of autistic kids.

Clinical case results with many thousands of cases is clear evidence they are correct. I don't think there is really any credible expert who would suggest that these kids weren't mercury toxic or didn't recover, since the tests and the results are a matter of record.
As in the Autism Association Press release that I exerpted.

[TZ]

18. You are aware you are talking to a psychologist

with a background in developmental psychology?.So you are talking to an AUTISM expert. Leftish Brit IS a credible expert. Are you now a psychologist too? I will add that to the list of pretend degrees you seem to think you have...

[trotsky]

25. He's listed in WHO'S WHO, you know!

They don't include just anyone for publication. Oh wait, yeah they do...
:rofl:

[TZ]

28. Hey...

I will let you know, I am listed in SEVERAl editions of WHO's WHO....(true but not on my resume):rofl:

[philb]

50. who is the most published and quoted on these issues, my sources or you

I think the answer is clear. But my sources also have direct experience, apparently you don't.

[TZ]

58. So, I have no experience eh?

How about malaria vaccine experience?
Here are some of the people I worked with.
http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/abstract/012590199v1
http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/abstract/103/48/18243
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6TD4-402K7FY-5&_user=10&_rdoc=1&_fmt=&_orig=search&_sort=d&view=c&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=7b24b7b34cae1b078eaa50529bea26d6
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1971714

I could go on. My name is attached to one of these papers, fyi.
My former boss, one of the premiere vaccine researchers in the WORLD has over 300+ publications, and so I come by my knowledge honestly. I also went to school and have a degree in the field. You have never shown anything but cut n paste deceptiveness. And a sad lack of biology.
Sorry there are two many BIG words for you to understand what these paper says. That's real science.

[philb]

12. Other autism treatments in Florida have similar success using detox & other states

Dr. Amy Holmes <[e-mail]> Her clinic treats about 300 autistic kids
Autism Treatment Center,Baton Rouge, La, http://www.healing-arts.org/children/holmes.htm#wethink
(note: see end of file for a clinic with a chelation protocol that appears to be even more successful than Dr. Holmes)

the bad news is that there is a huge increase in childhood conditions like autism and ADD. the good news is that autism is really looking like a neurotoxic problem, with all the other biochemical problems secondary to the presence of the toxins. This is good news because
this is something we have a chance of fixing. And it appears that, if you can get these toxins out at a reasonably early age, the child can be "indistinguishable from his peers". Mercury looks like it is usually the biggest problem, but, it doesn't look like most cases are purely mercury and mercury alone. There are some other heavy metals that play a big part, both by themselves and by (horrors of all horrors) potentiating the toxicity of mercury. For example antimony is almost always extremely high, with arsenic, lead, cadmium sometimes high, and we are also finding solvents like hexane or xylene or organochlorines or such as benzene to be sometimes high.

I think just about all the kids today are getting pretty high exposures to various toxins. The main ones that are having major problems are those with defective or immature detox systems in the
liver, although the exposure to mercury is certainly higher today than it has ever been in infancy before. 6 to 8 vaccines containing thimerosal in the first year alone the first on the 1st or 2nd day out of the womb. This is a relatively recent development (last 10 years), and I think this fact alone accounts for the epidemic of autism seen in the last 10 years.


So far, I have gotten hair tests from 110 autistic children all but one fit the counting rule for mercury/metals toxicity-

I will give it a try giving you the most typical picture I see:
1. Hair (Toxic Metals)
very high antimony almost universal
high aluminum
high arsenic
high normal to high cadmium

high normal to high lead
slightly high mercury

(hair tests don't measure mercury level accurately, in most autistics those with the highest body burdens have the lowest hair levels as shown by tests and medical studies- later other tests and the followup to detoxification finds extremely high mercury levels)

JAQUELYN McCANDLESS, M.D.
Certified by American Board of Psychiatry & Neurology
21800 Marylee St., #48
Woodland Hills, CA 91367

TO PARENTS AND PHYSICIANS OF AUTISTIC CHILDREN:
June 28, 2001

I am a physician certified by the American Board of Psychiatry and
Neurology, conducting clinical practice in Southern California. In the last
few years I have begun specializing in the treatment of developmentally
delayed children, primarily those in the autistic spectrum disorder group.
I was called into this work by one of my grandchildren being diagnosed with
autism, and have since been non stop researching and trying to understand
and treat this disorder.

At this point I am treating as many children as I can handle in my practice,
and the stories are all so similar that I must corroborate from my clinical
experience what is becoming obvious to many throughout the world. The
vaccines as part of the toxic world we live in are contributing to the
weakening of the children's immune systems generally, borne out by the
incredible rise in asthma/allergic disorders, diabetes, and other autoimmune
diseases as well as autism. If there happens to be a genetic predisposition
in the family, the combination of the genetics and toxic insult particularly
during gestation or early childhood may lead to developmental delay from
mild learning disorders and ADD/ADHD to full blown autism Statistics are
bearing this out; one in 150 250 children are receiving the autistic
diagnosis at this time, and literally millions of children are being treated
for learning delay disorders with the numbers increasing every year.

Though the general feeling among clinicians such as I is that the injury
most often starts with the injection at birth of the toxin thimerosal in the
Hep B, (which has recently finally been removed from the newborn's vaccine)
the cumulative effect of the vaccines injure the child's immune system

starting a familiar chain of events. That is, multiple infections/antibiotics, gut disorders, food intolerances etc. with the MMR often being the final blow before their descent into autism.

My current recommendation is that any child and particularly one with a
developmental disorder or with a family member with an autoimmune or
developmental delay disorder be given special care by the physician ordering
the vaccines. Several caveats are that the child should be in good health
before receiving vaccines, all vaccines be thimerosal free, and all
vaccines be given as separate components, e.g. M & M & R each being six
months apart and boosters only for those testing negative for immunity.
Hepatitis B should be given to a newborn only if the mother tests positive,
otherwise the child can wait until 4 5 years of age. Pediatricians are
recommended to read the July 2001 issue of Pediatrics for more
recommendations; their report on Mercury in the Environment states that all
recommended childhood immunizations are available in thimerosal free forms
now, and parents must insist on these for their children. Parents must be
willing to be advocates for their children and help educate their doctors
during this period of intense research and reform that is taking place
regarding childhood immunizations

Woody McInness is another clinic MD with similar results- One of his papers on his experience has been posted with the references.

I could post similar from other clinics.

[TZ]

19. This is old article

Plus what kind of doctor doesn't know that thimerosol isn't in all these vaccines? (and was NEVER in some of them like MMR)

[philb]

45. most vaccines still contain some thimerosal; some contain lots; & mercury isn't only toxic in vax

or the only immunosuppressive.

The fact that MMR vaccines harmed a lot of kids (even though it never contained mercury) has been well documented and the mechanisms explained. As I've posted documentation for before.

[NickB79]

62. So when the CDC says:

"Since 2001, with the exception of some influenza (flu) vaccines, thimerosal is not used as a preservative in routinely recommended childhood vaccines."

They're lying?

[lizerdbits]

15. You have absolutely no shame or clue

You have been shot down over and over in this subject but you stick your fingers in your ears and yell "LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU! I don't know why you keep posting this crap, though you are good for some laughs.

[philb]

20. Nothing here has been contradicted by any evidence; here's more details

I'm the only one who presents documentation, and it is clearly and demonstratably solid.

Autism like other conditions depends in its responses to mercury on susceptability. The main susceptability factors that have been documented are autoimunity and ability to excrete mercury.

Regarding the subset that are caused by autoimmune reaction to mercury/thimerosal, here is documentation I've presented before:

Autism/thimerosal/autoimmunity
http://www.melisa.org/autism.php

the Singh subgroup of autoimmune reactions to brain myelin sheath(37b),

(b)Singh VK; Lin SX; Yang VC. Serological association of measles virus and human herpesvirus 6 with brain autoantibodies in autism. Clin Immunol Immunopathol 1998 Oct;89(1):105 8; & G. Bell, Sterling Univ., Evidence of Toxic Metals/MMR connection in Autism, Autism Research Trust, 2002

[philb]

21. autoimmunity to mercury (Amalgam) is also a common factor in other autoimmune cond.-MS,Lupus,etc.

This has also long been known and documented, one of the most common causes of MS; MS patients groups like yahoo group mscured and etc. all are aware of this and agree.

some documention from a medical study/medical tests using a medical lab blood test for autoimmunity

The beneficial effect of amalgam replacement on health in patients with autoimmunity. Prochazkova J, Sterzl I, Kucerova H, Bartova J, Stejskal VD; Neuro Endocrinol Lett. 2004 Jun;25(3):211-8.
http://www.nel.edu/pdf_/25_3/NEL250304A07_Prochazkova_.pdf

Results of lymphocyte reactivity measured with MELISA indicate that in vitro reactivity after the replacement of dental amalgam decreased significantly to inorganic mercury, silver, organic mercury and lead.
All 6 patients with MS showed significant improvement in health.

Out of 15 patients with systemic lupus erythematosus (SLE) 11 (73%) had improvement of health.

Out of 8 patients with autoimmune thyroiditis 6 showed significant improvement in health (75%).

5 patients undergoing amalgam replacement had atopic eczema for which other studies have found more diverse factors in autoimmunity causes. 3 out of 5 of these patients had significant improvement in condition (60%).
Of the patients that did not have evidence of significant improvement, most tested immune reactive to nickel and the autoimmunity measure was not improved at the end of the study. For those whose condition was worse, the autoimmunity measure for nickel was higher at the end of the study- indicating that amalgam replacement did not resolve the source of nickel exposure.

The mechanisms by which mercury causes autoimmune conditions like MS, SLE, autoimmune thyroiditis, rheumatoid arthritis, Parkinson’s, etc. is documented by hundreds of peer-reviewed studies and in thousands of people who have recovered after amalgam filling replacement and detoxification.
http://www.flcv.com/ms.html

[TZ]

29. okay smart guy

Tell me what the test is for autoimmune disorders. Since you are such an expert you should know.
BTW, my sister was enrolled at a NIH study on Lupus and its genetics because my grandmother had Lupus too.
Lupus IS GENETIC stupid! MS is incurable!
I would still like to know how mercury causes the immune system to make antibodies to the NUCLEUS of their cells.

[philb]

34. You just arent' familar with the literature and treatment of autoimmune conditions

As I've noted one test doctors use to test for autoimmunity is the MELISA blood lymphocyte autoimmunity test MELISA Labs www.melisa.org
There are also labs in the U.S. that do the MELISA test.

As I've noted before my father's sister is an MD who had lupus but is now cured.
(another useful test for Lupus, etc. is the fractionated porphyrin test which measures the level of metabolic blockages by the toxic exposure(mercury,nickel, etc; the pattern of porphyrins dumped in the urine give an indication of the likely toxic factor or factors; patients with Lupus usually show high Uriporphyrin and high Corproporphyrin is an indicator of mercury toxicity, as noted in the study references I posted in another post)

My father and I both had this test(MELISA), for autoimmune conditions that we had. He recovered from MS, a doctor earlier said that I had symptoms of Asperger's,etc. - in the autism range. He was immune reactive to mercury, nickel, beryllium- had lots of mercury fillings replaced, did detox, recovered. I was also reactive to mercury and nickel, maybe something else. My dad was the one who ordered it. My sister also had a serious chronic condition when she was an infant that she's recovered from after treatment. She's in grad schoool in program at U. of Kansas med school now.

Lots of clinics have success treating autoimmune conditions like autism, MS, Lupus, as I've described here. I've mostly posted about autism here, but have info on clinics treating MS, Lupus, thyroiditis, eczema, etc. We keep a list of such and provide info on them to patients who contact us.

Here is a study using the MELISA Lab test on patients who recovered from MS, Lupus, thyroiditis, eczema after mercury detox. Other clinics have had similar results. We have thousands of such cases.

Mercury & autoimmune conditions: MS/Lupus/Thyroiditis/Eczema

The following National Library of Medicine abstracted article documents that most autoimmune conditions like Multiple Sclerosis (MS), Lupus (SLE), Thyroiditis, etc. are primarily caused by mercury from dental amalgam, and replacement of dental amalgam brings about cure or significant improvement in the majority of cases. This has similarly been demonstrated in other clinics and studies.

The beneficial effect of amalgam replacement on health in patients with autoimmunity. Prochazkova J, Sterzl I, Kucerova H, Bartova J, Stejskal VD; Neuro Endocrinol Lett. 2004 Jun;25(3):211-8.
http://www.nel.edu/pdf_/25_3/NEL250304A07_Prochazkova_.pdf

Results of lymphocyte reactivity measured with MELISA indicate that in vitro reactivity after the replacement of dental amalgam decreased significantly to inorganic mercury, silver, organic mercury and lead.
All 6 patients with MS showed significant improvement in health.

Out of 15 patients with systemic lupus erythematosus (SLE) 11 (73%) had improvement of health.

Out of 8 patients with autoimmune thyroiditis 6 showed significant improvement in health (75%).

5 patients undergoing amalgam replacement had atopic eczema for which other studies have found more diverse factors in autoimmunity causes. 3 out of 5 of these patients had significant improvement in condition (60%).
Of the patients that did not have evidence of significant improvement, most tested immune reactive to nickel and the autoimmunity measure was not improved at the end of the study. For those whose condition was worse, the autoimmunity measure for nickel was higher at the end of the study- indicating that amalgam replacement did not resolve the source of nickel exposure.

The mechanisms by which mercury causes autoimmune conditions like MS, SLE, autoimmune thyroiditis, rheumatoid arthritis, Parkinson’s, etc. is documented by hundreds of peer-reviewed studies and in thousands of people who have recovered after amalgam filling replacement and detoxification.
http://www.flcv.com/ms.html

Dental amalgam fillings have been found to be the largest source of mercury in most people with several amalgam fillings, by hundreds of thousands of medical lab test, medical studies, & Gov’t agencies:
www.flcv.com/damspr1.html


CFS and Fibromyalgia are also autoimmune conditions commonly caused by mercury immune reactivity, as documented by lots of medical studies and clinical cases using the MELISA test or etc. to follow the level of immune reactivity before and after recovery.

www.flcv.com/cfsfm.html and www.melisa.org

[TZ]

36. I'm a fucking immunologist

And one cannot do any ANTIBODY test for a non-biologic, the immune system just doesn't work that way! Your melisa is a complete and utter invalid bullshit test that probably would find mercury in a vacuum! If you knew ANYTHING about autoimmunity you would know this.
BTW..Lupus creates what are called Anti-Nuclear Antibodies. Which means that the body has antibodies to ones own CELL NUCLEUS.
You do know what a C-E-L-L is don't you? Sorry but the small amounts of mercury that MIGHT have actually been in amalgam and or vaccines can't cause that type of basic damage.
Sounds like the quacks you went to found out you had an awful lot of diseases. I imagine its really easy to cure imaginary diseases.

[philb]

46. I'm not surprised; what does that prove?

My direct sources have spent a lot of time reading the medical literature and following the clinical cases. I think its clear that you haven't on these issues. You may have read a lot on some things but not on these issues.

Did you read the article that I posted. There are thousands who are documented to have recovered from autoimmune conditions like Lupus and MS after testing to determine the cause of the autoimmunity and dealing with the cause. I've provided documentation of this, including in this thread. Both the mechanism of causality and the fact that those properly treated commonly recover are documented. An MD in my family is one of those who recovered from Lupus. And other in my family recovered from MS. And most of the coordinators in the organization that I keep up their web site recovered from one of these autoimmune condtions. I've posted some of their case histories before.

Note I have not said that all MS or Lupus are caused by mercury, but its documented to be a common cause , as is nickel,
and it has been documented that most of those who went through detoxification improved.


If you have evidence that something I've posted is inaccurate, please provide it. So we can discuss something relevent.

Medical labs and medical studies and all credible Gov't agencies related to mercury have confirmed that dental amalgam is the largest source of mercury in most who have several amalgam fillings. Do you disagree?
www.flcv.com/damspr1.html
http://www.doctorsdata.com/repository.asp?id=43

and the fact that mercury and toxic metals have adversely affected millions is also well documented in the medical literature and by clinical experience
www.flcv.com/tmlbn.html
www.flcv.com/kidshg.html
www.flcv.com/indexa.html
www.flcv.com/hgremove.html

[philb]

48. The word quack originally meant people who use mercury in dentistry and medicine

from the German word for "Quicksilver" I believe.
For the most part that definition still applies I think as related to mercury issues; I've documented before that some of your sources have been shown to be quackpots and ill informed in Gov't hearings and court cases. But callling names isn't useful and is typically a tactic used by those who don't have a case. MDs, researchers, etc. have different backgrounds and different knowledge bases. But there are enough with science background to sort out the different opinions that are based on these different knowledge and experience backgrounds if those with different opinions supply their documentation and evidence for comparison. The scientific method really does work if its really followed. Unfortunately the amount of information available these days is so huge many are unfamiliar with the extent of the knowledge and evidence. But on important issues, its important that all of the evidence is looked at and taken into account. I've supplied lots of credible studies and credible experts. You haven't done much to contradict their information.

[TZ]

56. Hey making shit up is fun isn't it!

I am a former NIH researcher and I can say you HAVE NOT DOCUMENTED ANYTHING OF SCIENTIFIC VALIDITY.
What is your evidence? You cut n paste gobbledegook from tinfoil hat sites trying to LOOK scientific. Where as I have posted over and over NIH backed studies NIAID (where I actually worked unlike you)
You are so dumb with the origins or quack in thirty seconds I found this:
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"It’s an abbreviation of an old Dutch word that in the modern language is spelled kwakzalver. It comes from quack, an early modern Dutch word meaning a person who chatters or prattles (probably connected to the English word for the noise a duck makes), and salf, essentially the same word as our salve. So a quacksalver was somebody who boasted about the virtues of his remedies, so it later became attached to a person who claimed to have miraculous medications. The longer form was common in the sixteenth century, but it was abbreviated later. The similarity of the full-length word to quicksilver, or mercury, and the once common use of that element in medicine (especially to treat diseases such as syphilis), falsely suggests a link with the name. BUT THERE'S NO CONNECTION"
http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-qua1.htm
You proved yourself ignorant when you couldn't even identify the test for Lupus. You don't know how an antibody or a virus works and you even claim that you get data from NIH which is an OUTRIGHT LIE.
YOU ARE A LYING DECEITFUL QUACK. I said it once and I'll say it again. I've had experience dealing with people who are dishonest with their research. And you better pray I never find out where you practice your quackery. The FDA certainly frowns on people making deceitful, dishonest and DANGEROUS claims.
Or perhaps your labs are GLP compliant with validated assays and clinical data? Lets see how much you REALLY know.
Tell my what GLP is and why ethical labs (which I doubt your group is) follow it to THE LETTER.

[lizerdbits]

32. Thank you for supporting my statement spam master. NT

[philb]

22. For those who have blood allele type APOE-4, its documented that they can't excrete mercury

and it accumulates and they get autism, MS, Lupus, etc. when exposed to mercury

www.flcv.com/suscept.html


But they recover when they do detox, as documented by the autism clinics treating them all over the U.S., as I've posted. This is a matter of record.
The U.S. Autism Association that released the information posted here in the origninal post would not do so if it wasn't a fact. They couldn't and wouldn't mislead their main supporters and parents of autistics about this. If they did, they would have major problems. This has been confirmed both by clinical case results and medical studies extensively, and all over the country.

Those not similarly treated, do not recover as consistently and quickly.

[LeftishBrit]

23. As I understand from looking at the site, the US Autism Association posts links to lots of news

reports about autism and its 'treatments'. I think it might be better if they didn't raise false hopes in this way, but they are not publishing, or claiming to publish, proof of effectiveness.

I have not seen any link here to any report of a clinical trial in a serious medical journal. All the links are to promotional sites for particular treatments, or to 'news' reports. Would you accept a 'Big Pharma' medicine on the same level and type of support?

[philb]

33. The Autism Assoc. & Doctors treating the kids & my organization have real experience in results

over a long period of time; and based on hundreds of thousands of tests and thousands of kids treated. The results are well documented and well known. If you looked at the Austim Assoc. end of year press release I took this from, you also saw that they had a video on a good many of the kids cured through the DAN Doctor chelation treatment protocol. They showed before and after info and interviews with the recovered kids now.

Some people here clearly neither follow the medical literature nor the experience of the last decade by the doctors treating the kids. There are autism treatment clinics in most states and more than one in several, and they all have similar results from the tests to determine what is causing the kids autism, and similar results that following the chelation & dealing with metabolic blockages/nutritional program the kids consistently improve significantly and become essentially "normal" again, as you can see from the interviews.

Statements/info from many of the autism treatment clinics are available on their web sites in many cases and also in press releases from the Autism Assoc. and from DAN Doctor Conferences. People from our organization go to some of the conferences and talk to the doctors and parents directly. In addition to having weekly interactions with a lot of the parents. We know from lots of experience that what I've posted here represents an accurate picture of the causes and treatability of autism. Not that all cases are alike or have the exact same grouping of factors. But mercury/metals toxicity is the biggest issue in the majority, while other substances in the vaccines are also an issue.

The substance that is being used to replace thimerosal in the vaccines, 2-phenoxyethanol
has also been shown to be neurotoxic and to cause adverse health effects, and I believe was banned from use in pesticides by the Gov't previously as being too dangerous. The vaccines also contain aluminum, formaldehyde, ect. and the viruses themselve like MMR cause problems in many, along with the widespread contamination by other contaminants like monkey viruses, etc.

[TZ]

35. A quack quoting a quack!

How convincing. Really.
I actually worked with vaccines btw. Stop with the FUCKING LIES about them. BY FDA regs (which unlike your crackpot organization, medical researchers have to follow) NO BANNED SUBSTANCES CAN BE INCLUDED. And ALL are tested for contamination during testing.
Want to tell me how an inactivated virus is dangerous? More so than the active viruses we are all exposed to EVERY DAY?
And the "aluminum" and such you rant and rave about help the vaccines become more effective and are ALSO TESTED IN TOX STUDIES for safety and stability.
And no, no biologic used on people has formaldehyde in it. Formaldehyde is used to preserve samples but is carefully kept apart. In my ten years plus biologic research I have NEVER been around or used formaldehyde.

[philb]

39. A 3 year Congression Study found thimerosal in vaccines to be common cause of autism

On May 21, 2003, after a three year investigation, "The Mercury in Medicine Report" was released by the House Committee on Government Reform, and stated in part:

"Thimerosal used as a preservative in vaccines is directly related to the autism epidemic. This epidemic in all probability may have been prevented or curtailed had the FDA not been asleep at the switch regarding a lack of safety data regarding injected thimerosal and the sharper eyes of infant exposure to this known neurotoxin. The public health agencies' failure to act is indicative of institutional malfeasance for self protection and misplaced protectionism of the pharmaceutical industry.

Dr. Weldon (MD), a Congressman from Florida was involved in that process and put a personal statement in the record supporting the finding.

[LeftishBrit]

49. The Dr. Weldon whom you quote...

is an RW Republican Congressman from Florida, who seems to have things in common with Bill Frist. According to his Wikipedia entry:

'In response to the legal battle over the removal of the feeding tube of Terri Schiavo, Weldon introduced legislation to force review of the case by the federal government. Weldon, a medical doctor, believed that Schiavo was not in a vegetative state. He supported his belief saying, "She responds to verbal stimuli, she attempts to vocalize, she tracks with her eyes, she emotes, she attempts to kiss her father."<1>'

Not sure I'd take his word for much after that!

[philb]

51. aluminum is documented to be a factor in Alzheimer's and other neurological conditions

along with mercury, do you disagree?
www.flcv.com/alzhg.html

[trotsky]

54. You are confusing SYMPTOMS with CAUSES, Bernie/Bernie Jr.

You have done it all along! Terrible misinformation and distortion.

[philb]

60. You are the one confused; the evidence clearly supports causation

Not only are the mechanisms of causation documented by the peer-reviewed studies I've referenced, but many thousands of clinical cases of recovery after proper mercury detox document causality as well. I've had plenty of statistics and science courses to know the difference and have 2 PhDs in my household as advisors on such as well.

[cosmik debris]

38. Make up your mind!

First it was mercury, then it's 2-phenoxyethanol and monkey viruses.

There are no heavy metals in 2-phenoxyethanol, so how does chelation therapy improve those who are autistic because of 2-phenoxyethanol?

How can anyone take you seriously when you keep changing the argument? The longer you argue, the more absurd your arguments get.

[philb]

40. Autism clinics/doctors treating test the kids to find out what toxic exposures they have; then deal

with what they have; they consistently have found high mercury and other toxic metals which is why chelation treatment has worked for most kids treated; this is documented by hundreds of thousands of tests from medical labs before and after chelation; and the fact that the kids consistently get signif. better/recover after treatment. The results are clear, as noted by the Autism Assoc. press releases and the case histories and the before and after video of the kids, also available in the origninal AA release.

Its known that neurological conditions re primarily caused by neurotoxic exposures, and there is a huge medical record that people with neurological conditions typically improve when the neurotoxic exposure is reduced. I've posted records of tens of thousands of such case histories, and there are other records of hundreds of thousands of cases.

The fact that 2-phenoxyethanol is neurotoxic is also a matter of medical record, and Gov't agency reports. Mercury is not the only toxic substance that causes autism or neurological conditions. The U.S. EPA and Dept. of Health(ATSDR) report that mercury, lead, and arsenic are the most common toxic causes of neurological adverse effects, affecting millions. As I've cited before. And these are all documented to be common cofactors in autism; Likewise high levels of antimoney (from use as fire retardant in kids pajamas and bed clothes) has been found in lots of the autistic kids. 3 M stopped production of their highest selling product because of this. But the metals chelation has worked for all of these. I never said that thimerosal was the only toxic affecting these kids. But there are detoxification protocols to deal with whatever exposures were the case. And its clear from the consistent results of the doctors/clinics treating the kids that their protocols have been highly successful.

[cosmik debris]

47. "hundreds of thousands of tests..."

And not one peer reviewed article in JAMA?

Do you really believe that press releases are a rational substitute for a good respectable peer reviewed journal?

Of course it also seems rather silly that you would complain about blood contamination, but not cite before and after blood tests.

I have to assume that the fact that you are misdirecting attention to urine tests means that the blood tests don't support your position.

Just like any slight-of-hand con man, you use misdirection to avoid getting caught in your con game.

The bottom line is that if the Autism Association had cured hundreds of thousands of cases of Autism, we wouldn't be having this conversation. But of course, that is NOT the case.

[lightningandsnow]

37. Then explain why

There are multi-generational autistic families.

Parents with asperger syndrome are much more likely to have autistic children then neurotypical parents are. Also, in families where one child is autistic, the chance of having another autistic child goes way up.

(Oh yes, and someone thinks I am a "very, very, very sick child." How the hell do you think that makes me feel? I'm just fine, thank you. If you can't accept my unique neurological wiring... maybe you're the one with the "sickness".)

[philb]

41. I've explained that before many times; susceptibility

The doctors and clinics treating neurological conditions have found that there are genetic susceptiblity factors that predispose people to be more affected by toxic metal exposures than others.
Major susceptibility factors include immune reactivity, inability to excrete toxic metals, etc. www.flcv.com/suscept.html

A subset of autism cases have been documented by test (MELISA, Singh) as previously documented to be caused by autoimmunity (to toxic metals). Autoimmune conditions have been shown to be caused by chronic exposures to toxics that the immune system is reactive to and a continuos battle between the immune system and the toxic hapten that the immune system can't defeat and can't get rid of. This has been shown for autism, MS, Lupus, CFS, Fibromyalgia, etc. www.melisa.org (medical lab that does immune reactivity tests) Mercury(thimerosal, inorganic, organic) along with nickel and other toxic metals have been found to be common causes of autoimmune conditions. But it has also been demonstrated by tests that when you reduce exposures (detoxification) the autoimmunity declines and the patient gets better. Not surprisingly.

Another major susceptability factor found in autism is related to ability to excrete mercury and other toxic metals. Two common such are blood allele APOE type and metallothienein . People have APOE blood allele types 2, 3, or 4. Those with type 2 can readily excrete mercury (or etc.) but type 4s cannot. This has been known by doctors treating metal related conditions (and documented by medical research for a long time). APOE type 4s are more likely to get autism or Asperger's or ADHD related to vaccine or other toxic metals exposures. This also has been well documented and is known by the doctors treating the kids.
Similar is true for adults where type 4s commonly get Alzheimer's, MS, Parkinson's, ALS, etc. in the 40s whereas type 3s are effected less but get the conditions often in their 50s or over. Type 2s much less likely.

Likewise metallothionein deficiencies has been found to be a similar factor causing inablity to excrete mercury or deal with mercury by decades of studies on tens of thousands of kids by the Pfeiffer Clinic.

Walsh, WJ, Health Research Institute, Autism and Metal Metabolism,www.hriptc.org/autism.htm, Oct 20, 2000; & Walsh WJ, Pfeiffer Treatment Center, Metal Metabolism and Human Functioning, 2000,http://www.hriptc.org/mhfres.htm;
& HRI Pfeiffer Center Autism Study; paper presented to Dan Conference, Jan 2001; & Metal-Metabolism and Autism: Defective Functioning of Metallothionein Protein,

[philb]

42. Similar true for adults; Pfeiffer,etc. found toxic metals major factors in violence, criminality, JD

juvenile delinquency, serial murder, etc. for similar reasons.

In recent years serial killers have been tested by the Pfeiffer Clinic and the last 28 major serial killers tested all had extreme toxic metal toxicity. It causes neurological problems that some call "crazy".
There is a lot of documentation in the medical literature that most with juvenile delinquency, criminal records, impulsitity/violent prone have toxic metal toxicity and that toxic metals cause learning disabilities and these other conditions that lead to such lifestyles. www.flcv.com/violence.html


Detoxification, nutritional treatment to deal with essential mineral deficiencies and imbalances caused by the toxic exposures have been documented to improve all of these conditions and lead to improvement in health and lifestyle characteristics of those with the toxicity related problems. This has been shown in studies in prisions, juvenile detention facilities, schools, etc. and large programs dealing with such have demonstrated much success.

[Liberal Veteran]

55. They also found heavy metal be responsible for obsessive spamming and credulity.

:eyes:

[philb]

59. Mother helps child battle autism using metals chelation and nutritional measures

Mother helps child battle autism
Chelation Protocol and nutritional measures bring daughter back from autism to A student in school

January 13, 2008 By Mary Jimenez [e-mail]
http://www.shreveporttimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080113/NEWS01/801130336/1060/NEWS01

The project
Defeat Autism Now! is a project of the Autism Research Institute. There are several biomedical treatments used in this protocol. At the core of the project is stabilizing and healing the gut and ridding the body of toxins. A summary of the major biomedical treatments includes: an improved diet, checking for food allergies, starting a gluten-free/casein-free diet, adding vitamin/mineral supplements, essential digestive enzymes, fatty acids, antifungals, probiotics supplements, amino acids, melatonin, thyroid supplementation, sulfation and glutathione therapy (a helpful peptide that aids the body in removing toxins). Chelation (removal of heavy metals) and immune system regulation are two of the final steps.
For more information visit the Autism Research Institute Web site at www.autism.com where you can also find a list of practitioners.
Source: Autism Research Institute
RELATED LINKS
American Academy of Pediatrics: www.aap.org/healthtopics/autism.cfm
Autism Research Institute, go here to find out about the DAN approach: www.autism.com/index.htm
Autism Society of America: www.autism-society.org/
Northwest Louisiana Chapter, Autism Society of America: www.autism-society.org/site/Clubs?club_id=1261&pg=main&JServSessionIdr012=z0rgnmtvx1.app24a
LouisianaAutismLink at Yahoo Groups: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/LouisianaAutismLink/
Relationship development Intervention: www.rdiconnect.com/
U.S. Department of Education, individualized education plan guide: www.ed.gov/parents/needs/speced/iepguide/index.html
Louisiana Dept. of Education, autism resources: www.doe.state.la.us/lde/eia/1051.html
Gluten-free, Casein Free Diet recourse: www.gfcfdiet.com/

[LeftishBrit]

63. It is interesting that the first link that this gives...

is to the American Academy of Pediatrics, which includes some material debunking the anti-vaccination claims.

In any case: there's a difference between nutritional measures and metal chelation. Nutritional measures are unlikely to be harmful (so long as people don't expect them to be *cures*) and may do some good, especially as some autistic children's problems are aggravated, though not caused, by food allergies and intolerances. Chelation can be positively dangerous.

[philb]

64. There are is no credible evidence debunking that thimerosal causes autism;

The fact that thimerosal causes autism by causing autoimmunity has been documented by medical lab tests and studies, as posted.
Likewise the fact that thimerosal commonly causes autism has been confirmed by solid peer-reviewed studies and many thousands of tests on autistics treated at clinics, who are also documented to have recovered after detox treatment. And the fact that no other treatment has similar success.


A prospective assessment of porphyrins in autistic disorders: a potential marker for heavy metal exposure. Geier DA, Geier MR. Neurotox Res. 2006 Aug;10(1):57-64
Conclusion: An apparent dose-response effect was observed between autism severity and increased urinary coproporphyrins. Patients with non-chelated autism (2.25-fold, 83% had levels > 2 SD above the control mean) and non-chelated ASDs (2-fold, 58% had levels > 2 SD above the control mean), but not patients with non-chelated pervasive developmental delay-not otherwise specified (PDD-NOS) or Asperger's disorder (1.4-fold, 46% had levels > 2 SD above the control mean), had significantly increased median coproporphyrin levels versus controls. A significant increase (1.7-fold) in median coproporphyrin levels was observed among non-chelated ASD patients versus chelated ASD patients. Porphyrins should be routinely clinically measured in ASDs, and potential ASD treatments should consider monitoring porphyrin levels. Additional research should be conducted to evaluate the potential role for mercury exposure in some ASDs.
see Medline for details and other such studies; I've posted thousands of cases.

[Orrex]

65. philb is ONCE AGAIN dispensing medical advice

And in any case the post is nonsensical.

The unsupported claim (that is, unsupported except by truebelievers, who require no independent corroboration) is that thimerosal causes autism. It is therefore up to the proponents of this hack fringe theory to prove that their claim is substantiated.

Instead, like all dangerous pseudoscientific apologists, demands that science disprove the nonsensical claim that he puts forth. It is no different from theistic fanatics demanding that atheists prove that god doesn't exist.

But in this case it's much more dangerous, because philb is dispensing medical advice, as he does in pretty much every post and thread with which he pollutes the Health forum.

[philb]

67. Autism Assoc. survey of parents- chelation most effective and safest treatment

Chelation: The Real Story Behind the Misleading Headlines

Autism Research Review International , 2005, Vol. 19, No. 3, page 3 http://www.autism.com/ari/editorials/ed_chelationstory.htm
http://www.autismwebsite.com/ari/treatment/form34q.htm#biomedical

“Death of boy linked to controversial chelation therapy,” the headlines shouted. The tragic story of a young autistic boy who died after suffering cardiac arrest following a round of chelation therapy provided mainstream physicians with a golden opportunity to crow about “quackery,” foolish and impressionable parents “grasping for straws,” and the dangers of “unproven” alternative treatments for autism.

To my knowledge, none of these doctors retracted their comments following the recent report issued by Mary Jean Brown of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. According to Brown, the boy’s death resulted, quite simply, from a drug error. The problem, according to Brown: a “look-alike” drug, Disodium EDTA, was mistakenly used instead of Calcium Disodium EDTA. Brown stated that “without a doubt” the mix-up caused the boy’s cardiac arrest, and she noted moreover that the correct treatment is virtually harmless.

So we have one tragic death, resulting not from proper chelation procedures as used by hundreds of doctors, but apparently from a medical mistake. Weighed against this, we have tens of thousands of children and hundreds of thousands of adults who have been treated safely with chelation therapy for decades. According to physician Ralph Miranda, former president of the American College for Advancement in Medicine, there have been no deaths associated with correctly-performed chelation in the past 50 years.

Since 1967 the Autism Research Institute has collected “Parent Ratings of Behavioral Effects of Biomedical Interventions.” To date, almost 25,000 parent responses have been collected. Chelation is a recent addition to our list of interventions. So far, of the first 470 parents who reported on the efficacy of chelation, 75% report “good” results, which is by far the highest “good” percentage reported for any of the 88 biomedical interventions (including 53 drugs) the parents have rated. (See: www.treatmentratings.com .)

Drug options commonly used have been found by our survey to be much less effective and much more dangerous. http://www.autismwebsite.com/ari/treatment/form34q.htm

one recent case:
My daughter, who was 6 years old, was diagnosed with autism at 18 months. We had discovered her body had high levels of heavy metals and she could not process them. After 3 Ion Footbath sessions we started to see an improvement in her focus. After a few more sessions we began to see marked improvement in her reasoning and logic. Kiara is now 7, and in a regular class and doing great at school and continues regular sessions. I feel that the Ion footbath sessions, combined with a good nutrition program played a key role in her improvement."
Grant, Listowel ON

[LeftishBrit]

68. Is there any independent rating of pre-treatment status and outcome...

by people who did NOT know what treatments the children were receiving?

And in any case: conventional medicine does NOT claim that any drug cures autism, so it's not surprising that the drugs you mention do not. E.g. antibiotics - whoever said those were a treatment for autism? They might be given to autistic, as to non-autistic children, if they get an incidental infection. The anti-seizure medications are NOT given to treat autism, but to control the epilepsy that occurs in a significant minority of children with autism.

[philb]

69. The doctors use what has proven successful, and parents choose likewise

There is no inherent bias in the surveys of the Autism assoc. or of similar survery by other organizations or web sites.

The real problem is that parents or patients who aren't members of an organization like the Austism Association or who don't know about non-profit orgs like ours or who don't participate on condition forums with other parents at sites such as Yahoo Groups, etc. or doctors who don't do their own research through Medline, don't have much info on what treatments are most effective in dealing with conditions like autism and other chronic conditions. You certainly can't get unbiased info from the Pharm reps where most of the info going to doctors and the media comes from. Our system here is a huge mess controlled by special interests and similar for U.S. gov't orgs like FDA, which is part of the reason why the U.S. medical system ranks so poorly compared to other countries on health statistics, according to WHO stats and etc.
I'm not as familiar with UK but think its similar there. We have a coordinator in UK but I'm not the one who interacts with her much.

[cosmik debris]

70. Why don't you just let it go?

Your evidence is lame and easily refuted. You are not convincing anyone, and the further you go the sillier you look.

[philb]

72. I know I'm right from lots of experience- I think you guys are the one playing games

with no credible support for your positions. Your word games don't bother me since I know by our collective experience that we are right. All the credible doctors at medical conferences that we attend on these issues agree with us. There was no major opinion to the contrary at the conferences nor have I seen any studies to the contrary. The studies I've cited have real careful tests on real people with consistent results and are consistent with what thousands of other tests on animals and people find regarding these issues. I'm familar with them and know there are no credible studies of similar quality and specificity to the contrary. Our staff has looked at every study on Medline in the areas that we work in. We have found no credible study to the contrary of the studies that I've referenced. The peer-reviewed studies demonstrate that some kids are more susceptible due to blood allele type or MT deficiency which mean they can't excrete toxic metals or due to immune reactivity to mercury www.flcv.com/suscept.html
And these are primarily the kids who get ASD conditions and ADHD, etc. But these are common allele types and immune reactivity to mercury is also documented to be very common and the fact that mercury commonly causes autoimmune conditions, in fact is the most common cause of many conditions is well documented in the medical literature that I've cited. www.flcv.com/suscept.html (etc. for adult conditions)

For example the peer-reviewed studies at www.flcv.com/autismhg.html
document that ASD kids have high levels of mercury and toxic metals and high levels of metabolic blockages and hormonal imbalance that the medical literature I've quoted elsewhere(and these studies) documents is caused by mercury. The studies also show that kids getting vaccines with more thimerosal had much higher deaths due to vaccines and more serious injuries and autism reported to the Gov't data base for such information.
Likewise the studies I've posted about other groups like Amish who don't get vax had similar experience compared to those who got vax. The studies also document that ASD kids who go through 4 months of detox release high levels of mercury and other toxic metals and have their high androgen levels decline and that their behavioral problems improve.
The studies also show that those who get higher levels of vaccines with mercury had a lot more autism, and the kids of mother's who got Rhogam shots for RH - factor with high levels of thimerosal also had autism at much high rates (double I believe).

The large Autism Association survey of parent of autism regarding success and problems of various treatments confirmed all of this, that chelation/detox is by far the most successful treatment for autism and the safest treatment, and that other drug therapies aren't nearly as effective and have a lot more adverse effects/ same as all of the peer-reviewed studies I've seen on this issue.

There is a lot more peer-reviewed study documentation in the review paper www.flcv.com/kidshg.html
including the fact that the mercury and toxic exposures through the vaccines and from their mom's amalgam fillings and Scotchguard in kids bedclothes and other toxic sources combine to synergistically cause the inflamatory oxidative damage demonstrated by the studies on these kids as well as the neurological and hormonal effects and metabolic effects that are documented through the tests and studies on these kids. but the studies clearly demonstrate that the vaccines with thimerosal were the largest factor in most cases, though the other toxics in vaccines like the neurotoxic preservative that replaced thimerosal in several of the vaccines and formaldehyde and alumiunum also have major effects on the neurological and immune systems. www.flcv.com/vaxalum.html for example Also recently the increased promotion of flu shots with high levels of mercury to pregnant women and kids (flu shots alone have been documented to caused increase neurological conditions in groups of people who get several, as i've previously posted doc. for) (also modern amalgam fillings give off extremely more mercury than older amalgams due to high copper content so the mom's of kids these days get more mercury exposure from their mom's- a major source, www.flcv.com/fetaln.html and www.flcv.com/damspr1.html ) I've posted URL to a medical lab web site where this is also documented, and a URL to another medical lab web site where autism though immune reactivity to thimerosal was documented.

Given that I'm the only one who has cited credible peer-reviewed studies on these topics and my org has years of experience with these patients and the clinics treating them, and that all of the experience and test results of the clinics treating them which is consistent with the results of large survery by the autism associations (not just the one cited) and other independent surveys, it seems to me this is a slam dunk. Like 100 to 0. I understand that there is no one cause of autism and the causes are synergistic, but the studies and treatment tests have made clear that in most cases vaccines and thimerosal have been the biggest factor.

If you think otherwise still, please cite a study or studies that contradict the ones I've cited and explain why the peer review process has not turned up any documentation showing that the studies that I've cited are problematic. Note that many of those I site were approved through the IRB process and reviewed before and after being carried out.

[cosmik debris]

73. To me this is just amusement.

I see you as just another clown in a large circus.

It's just a shame that more kids might die because of your quack medical advice.

[trotsky]

74. There is no credible evidence supporting you, Bernie/Bernie Jr.

None whatsoever. I have 100,000+ studies that prove you are wrong. If you think otherwise, please cite a credible study to contradict them.

[philb]

76. I've posted my over 3000 cites; you've never posted any; quite a difference

From lots of experience of myself and my advisors in 10 years of experience working daily with those affected by mercury/toxics from vaccines, amalgam fillings, etc. there is no possibility that I could be wrong. All of us in our family, and I have 2 PhD advisors at hand, were straight A students, graduated at top of our class, good background in science, math, logic. We don't make logical mistakes and understand methodology and when something is documented, when something is proven, and when not.
When you work with patients daily (in health forums and also organizational contacts and conferences, etc.) collectively for 10 years and thousands of patients and over the entire period see consistent results in the test results, consistent results in the outcomes of treatment, there is no possible chance we are mistaken. this is documented in the records of the clinics and we have a lot of the records also because of our interaction with the families. Two in our family also have personal experience recovering from serious chronic conditions related to mercury toxicity, the reason that my Dad volunteered in a patients support organization to help the millions harmed by mercury toxicity. This is not only documented by many thousands of case histories that we have, but also by thousands of peer-reviewed medical studies www.flcv.com/indexa.html
plus the autism/ADHD cases posted on this and other autism threads. (some at www.flcv.com/autismhg.html and the others posted) www.flcv.com/kidshg.html and www.flcv.com/tmlbn.html
And its also supported by the very large surveys of parents by the Autism Association and the records of the very large Autism Parent forums on Yahoo Groups. Neither the Assoc. nor the parents have any reason for bias in this and the results were overwheliming. Detox much more effective and safer than any of the other treatments. The federal Gov't Vaccine Injury Reporting Data base also clearly supports the case I've presented.

The medical lab web site www.doctorsdata.com fecal metals test and other studies and Gov't agencies confirm that dental amalgam is by far the largest source of mercury in most people who have mercury (silver) fillings. www.flcv.com/damspr1.html (10 times the exposure on average of those without, 30 micrograms per day into sewers)
And thus as EPA and Municipal Sewer agencies have confirmed, dental amalgam because of this is by far the largest source of mercury in all sewers in the U.S., which all have very high and dangerous levels, and also thus a major source of mercury in water bodies and fish. www.flcv.com/damspr2f.html This huge exposure to those who have mercury fillings is the reason millions have been adversely affected and that people commonly recover from chronic health problems after mercury detox. www.flcv.com/hgremove.html (FDA is among those cited here) Modern mercury amalgam fillings are documented to release much higher levels of mercury into the person with the filling due to replacing silver by copper in the fillings to make them easier to work with, but disregarding the health of the patient in so doing.

There is no chance that I'm wrong. Anyone can easily verify for themself starting with the info posted here that what I say is accurate. You have reason to be aware that our organization has intervened in State Health Dept. Hearings and FDA hearings on this issue, with very hostile deciding bodies, yet we've never lost. I've posted some of the info on some of those before of my father's interventions, from his web site. The reason we don't lose in a hearing by judges is that our case is overwhelming; we have all of the evidence on our side and there is no way around that when the evidence is looked at. Its easy for us to find credible witnesses in any state with experience and knowledge of the issues because most universities have researchers with credentials in these areas who can attest to the accuracy of our case. And you may be aware that most countries with advanced medical systems are phasing out or banning mercury use in medicine and dental use due to the overwhelming case.
Mercury is extremely toxic, EPA acknowledges that mercury, lead, and arsenic cause more significant adverse health effects than any other toxic exposures. And that millions have been affected. 7 of the top 10 toxics on the EPA list adversely affecting public are toxic metals. Aluminum is one of these documented to cause Alzheimer's and other neurological conditions and in vaccines is also a major problem: www.flcv.com/vaxalum.html

Again, you've never presented a single credible study or credible argument to counter any of the large numbers of peer-reviewed papers documenting the mechanisms by which mercury/toxic exposures cause these conditons, and the many thousands of cases of recovery after proper mercury detox. www.flcv.com/hgremove.html and the thousands of cases of recovery from autism/Asperger's/ADHD documented on these threads. The recoveries are a matter of record , and the results are clear. It seems to me that you just refuse to look at the evidence, I assume due to some special bias or special interest that you represent. You guys are wasting a lot of my time by refusing to discuss the studies and evidence, but continuing to post remarks without any attempt at supporting evidence.

And if you convince people who have real problems to not pursue the most effective treatments, you are causing tremendous harm to them. As noted by the National Academy of Sciences, during the 90s over 50% of all pregnancies in the U.S. resulted in birth defects or learning disabilities or developmental disabilities. And I've provided cites to thousands of peer-reviewed medical studies and thousands of clinical case histories documenting that the majority were caused by prenatal and neonatal toxic exposures, with mercury and vaccines having major roles in a large portion of the cases.

Again, please document that any of this is inaccurate if you can. I've asked you before specifically what you disagree with but still haven't had a credible response.

[trotsky]

78. I have posted my cites numerous times in this forum.

You have chosen to ignore them. If you are aware of anything that is inaccurate, let me know. You have not put forth a credible response.

[chicagomd]

75. Oh...my...sweet...lord

"I understand that there is no one cause of autism and the causes are synergistic, but the studies and treatment tests have made clear that in most cases vaccines and thimerosal have been the biggest factor."-philb

My emotions toward you have run the entire gambit in the short time I have been posting here: Shock at your baseless assertions, curiosity at how you could actually believe what you say, anger that you could use your training in such a dishonest and pathetic way, and a general sense of annoyance that there are people like you in the world.

Now, to be frank, I pity you. You are blind. You are lost. You are so locked into an answer that you have completely lost sight of the question.

For anyone reading this thread who really has questions about thimerosal here is the study:
A Hviid et al. Association between thimerosal-containing vaccine and autism. JAMA 2003 290: 1763-1766.

This is a study with 467,450 children almost three million person-years of follow up.

Here is a link to the analysis:
http://www.jr2.ox.ac.uk/bandolier/band118/b118-5.html

If thimerosal was the answer autism would be cured "in most cases" by now, Bernie. I wish it was, but it is not. This information is not being suppressed, or hidden from the general public. There is no huge conspiracy to cover it all up. Every dollar wasted by a desperate parent, every kid who dies from chelation, every million dollars that gets spent on meaningless research to try prove what is already known is at your feet.

[philb]

77. why would you think you know better than the Autism Assoc. reserchers who interact with many thousan

thousands of autistic kids and their parents and the doctors who treat them and have had conference for many years
discussing the research and the tests and the treatments. And who have seen the results of the various treatments tried over those years, with the clear overwhelming result that detoxification is by far the most effective treatment for autism and autism spectrum disorders; with the same conclusions supported by test results by the many autism clinics treating the kids, who also participate in the Autism Assoc. conferences. If there are experts who have better knowledge of the causes and cures of autism, why don't they attend the conferences and educate everyone about this. They would surely be welcome as no one is discouraged from coming. The parents of autistic kids have real kids with real serious problems to deal with, and they choose to do what the majority evidence supports, and the case is clear, as you can see from the autism assoc. survey. (I posted the URL)

Your study is not of a form that could prove what you suggest, see the thread on scientific method. I'm aware that this study has been thoroughly debunked and it was shown that it didn't and couldn't prove what you suggested. I'll get info to discuss it further if you like. We'll have to look at it further before discussing it in detail.

Real studies that were more directly focused on actual autism cases with real tests and evaluation of the Gov't adverse reports data base have clearly documented that vaccines do kill some kids directly and harm large numbers directly (immediately) see the data base as posted
and the carefully crafted IRB approved studies that document that most autistic kids have high levels of mercury and other toxics(I've posted studies that clearly document why and could again) and that they have metabolic and hormonal problems that have been documented by studies to be caused by mercury, and the studies document that the kids when treated by chelation excrete large amounts of toxic metals and the hormonal imbalance and metabolic imbalances improve and the kids signif. improve in physical and behavioral/social manner. And also that large groups of kids who got vaccines with thimerosal had large numbers who died or had autism/harm compared to low numbers for groups who got no or less vaccines with thimerosal. Etc. all the things I've noted before. www.flcv.com/autismhg.html
and www.flcv.com/kidshg.html

These are careful studies with clear results, and they are supported by the large numbers of other peer-reviewed studies that I've posted, and the thousands of cases treated by autism treatment clinics with the hundreds of thousands of test results supportive. And by the AA and parent group surveys.

Look at the studies and explain why the studies don't prove exactly what I've said, or find any credible expert who can provide evidence contradicting their findings. www.flcv.com/autismhg.html
which again are supported by case histories as well.

If you know much about research, there is a responsibility of researchers in a field to review research published in peer-reviewed journals and to point out problems in papers submitted. If the papers that document what I've noted have problems or don't document what they claim, why has no credible researcher provided evidence to the contrary to the journals?

[LeftishBrit]

79. Why has no credible researcher provided evidence to the contrary?

But they have. Here are just a few relevant abstracts.


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1: Arch Gen Psychiatry. 2008 Jan;65(1):19-24. Links
Comment in:
Arch Gen Psychiatry. 2008 Jan;65(1):15-6.
Continuing increases in autism reported to California's developmental services system: mercury in retrograde.Schechter R, Grether JK.
Immunization Branch, California Department of Public Health, 850 Marina Bay Pkwy, Richmond, CA 94804, USA.

CONTEXT: Previous analyses of autism client data reported to the California Department of Developmental Services (DDS) have been interpreted as supporting the hypothesis that autism is caused by exposure to the preservative thimerosal, which contains ethylmercury. The exclusion of thimerosal from childhood vaccines in the United States was accelerated from 1999 to 2001. The Immunization Safety Review Committee of the Institute of Medicine has recommended surveillance of trends in autism as exposure to thimerosal during early childhood has decreased. OBJECTIVE: To determine whether trends in DDS autism client data support the hypothesis that thimerosal exposure is a primary cause of autism. DESIGN, SETTING, AND PATIENTS: Study of time trends in the prevalence by age and birth cohort of children with autism who were active status clients of the DDS from January 1, 1995, through March 31, 2007. MAIN OUTCOME MEASURE: Prevalence of autism among children with active status in the DDS. RESULTS: The estimated prevalence of autism for children at each year of age from 3 to 12 years increased throughout the study period. The estimated prevalence of DDS clients aged 3 to 5 years with autism increased for each quarter from January 1995 through March 2007. Since 2004, the absolute increase and the rate of increase in DDS clients aged 3 to 5 years with autism were higher than those in DDS clients of the same ages with any eligible condition including autism. CONCLUSIONS: The DDS data do not show any recent decrease in autism in California despite the exclusion of more than trace levels of thimerosal from nearly all childhood vaccines. The DDS data do not support the hypothesis that exposure to thimerosal during childhood is a primary cause of autism.

PMID: 18180424




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1: Pediatrics. 2003 Sep;112(3 Pt 1):604-6. Links
Thimerosal and the occurrence of autism: negative ecological evidence from Danish population-based data.Madsen KM, Lauritsen MB, Pedersen CB, Thorsen P, Plesner AM, Andersen PH, Mortensen PB.
Danish Epidemiology Science Centre, Department of Epidemiology and Social Medicine, University of Aarhus, Denmark.

OBJECTIVE: It has been suggested that thimerosal, a mercury-containing preservative in vaccines, is a risk factor for the development of autism. We examined whether discontinuing the use of thimerosal-containing vaccines in Denmark led to a decrease in the incidence of autism. DESIGN: Analysis of data from the Danish Psychiatric Central Research Register recording all psychiatric admissions since 1971, and all outpatient contacts in psychiatric departments in Denmark since 1995. PATIENTS: All children between 2 and 10 years old who were diagnosed with autism during the period from 1971-2000. OUTCOME MEASURES: Annual and age-specific incidence for first day of first recorded admission with a diagnosis of autism in children between 2 and 10 years old. RESULTS: A total of 956 children with a male-to-female ratio of 3.5:1 had been diagnosed with autism during the period from 1971-2000. There was no trend toward an increase in the incidence of autism during that period when thimerosal was used in Denmark, up through 1990. From 1991 until 2000 the incidence increased and continued to rise after the removal of thimerosal from vaccines, including increases among children born after the discontinuation of thimerosal. CONCLUSIONS: The discontinuation of thimerosal-containing vaccines in Denmark in 1992 was followed by an increase in the incidence of autism. Our ecological data do not support a correlation between thimerosal-containing vaccines and the incidence of autism.

PMID: 12949291





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JAMA. 2003 Oct 1;290(13):1763-6. Links
Comment in:
J Fam Pract. 2004 Feb;53(2):94-6.
JAMA. 2004 Jan 14;291(2):180; author reply 180-1.
JAMA. 2004 Jan 14;291(2):180; author reply 180-1.
Association between thimerosal-containing vaccine and autism.Hviid A, Stellfeld M, Wohlfahrt J, Melbye M.
Danish Epidemiology Science Centre, Department of Epidemiology Research, Statens Serum Institut, Copenhagen, Denmark.

CONTEXT: Mercuric compounds are nephrotoxic and neurotoxic at high doses. Thimerosal, a preservative used widely in vaccine formulations, contains ethylmercury. Thus it has been suggested that childhood vaccination with thimerosal-containing vaccine could be causally related to neurodevelopmental disorders such as autism. OBJECTIVE: To determine whether vaccination with a thimerosal-containing vaccine is associated with development of autism. DESIGN, SETTING, AND PARTICIPANTS: Population-based cohort study of all children born in Denmark from January 1, 1990, until December 31, 1996 (N = 467 450) comparing children vaccinated with a thimerosal-containing vaccine with children vaccinated with a thimerosal-free formulation of the same vaccine. MAIN OUTCOME MEASURES: Rate ratio (RR) for autism and other autistic-spectrum disorders, including trend with dose of ethylmercury. RESULTS: During 2 986 654 person-years, we identified 440 autism cases and 787 cases of other autistic-spectrum disorders. The risk of autism and other autistic-spectrum disorders did not differ significantly between children vaccinated with thimerosal-containing vaccine and children vaccinated with thimerosal-free vaccine (RR, 0.85 <95% confidence interval [CI>, 0.60-1.20] for autism; RR, 1.12 <95% CI, 0.88-1.43> for other autistic-spectrum disorders). Furthermore, we found no evidence of a dose-response association (increase in RR per 25 microg of ethylmercury, 0.98 <95% CI, 0.90-1.06> for autism and 1.03 <95% CI, 0.98-1.09> for other autistic-spectrum disorders). CONCLUSION: The results do not support a causal relationship between childhood vaccination with thimerosal-containing vaccines and development of autistic-spectrum disorders.

PMID: 14519711




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Hideo Honda, Yasuo Shimizu, Michael Rutter (2005)
No effect of MMR withdrawal on the incidence of autism: a total population study
Journal of Child Psychology and Psychiatry 46 (6), 572–579.
doi:10.1111/j.1469-7610.2005.01425.x

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Abstract
No effect of MMR withdrawal on the incidence of autism: a total population study
Hideo Honda11Yokohama Rehabilitation Center, Yokohama, Japan, Yasuo Shimizu11Yokohama Rehabilitation Center, Yokohama, Japan and Michael Rutter22Institute of Psychiatry, London, UK1Yokohama Rehabilitation Center, Yokohama, Japan
2Institute of Psychiatry, London, UK
Hideo Honda, Yokohama Rehabilitation Center, 1770 Toriyama-cho, Kohoku-ku, Yokohama 222-0035, Japan; Tel: [phone]; Fax: [phone]; Email: [e-mail]
Abstract
Background: A causal relationship between the measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) vaccine and occurrence of autism spectrum disorders (ASD) has been claimed, based on an increase in ASD in the USA and the UK after introduction of the MMR vaccine. However, the possibility that this increase is coincidental has not been eliminated. The unique circumstances of a Japanese MMR vaccination program provide an opportunity for comparison of ASD incidence before and after termination of the program.

Methods: This study examined cumulative incidence of ASD up to age seven for children born from 1988 to 1996 in Kohoku Ward (population approximately 300,000), Yokohama, Japan. ASD cases included all cases of pervasive developmental disorders according to ICD-10 guidelines.

Results: The MMR vaccination rate in the city of Yokohama declined significantly in the birth cohorts of years 1988 through 1992, and not a single vaccination was administered in 1993 or thereafter. In contrast, cumulative incidence of ASD up to age seven increased significantly in the birth cohorts of years 1988 through 1996 and most notably rose dramatically beginning with the birth cohort of 1993.

Conclusions: The significance of this finding is that MMR vaccination is most unlikely to be a main cause of ASD, that it cannot explain the rise over time in the incidence of ASD, and that withdrawal of MMR in countries where it is still being used cannot be expected to lead to a reduction in the incidence of ASD.




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Miles JH, Takahashi TN. 2007. Lack of association between Rh status, Rh immune globulin in pregnancy and autism. Am J Med Genet Part A 143A:1397-1407.

Funded by:
Johnson and Johnson Company
Leda J. Sears Trust

Keywords
autism • Rh • Rh immune globulin • thimerosal • RhoGam


Abstract
Though causes of autism are considered largely genetic, considerable concern remains that exposure to Rh immune globulin (RhIg), which until 2001 in the United States contained the preservative thimerosal, can cause autism. To determine whether mothers of children with autism are more likely to be Rh negative (Rh-) or to have received RhIg preserved with thimerosal, which is 49.6% ethyl mercury, we surveyed families of children with an autism spectrum disorder (ASD) ascertained through a University-based autism clinic considered free of ascertainment biases related to type of autism or severity. Between 2004 and 2006, 305 mothers of 321 children with an ASD agreed to participate in a telephone interview. Analysis of complete records including the blood group status and RhIg exposure of 214 families showed that Rh- status is no higher in mothers of children with autism than in the general population, exposure to antepartum RhIg, preserved with thimerosal is no higher for children with autism and pregnancies are no more likely to be Rh incompatible. This was also true for autism subgroups defined by behavioral phenotype, gender, IQ, regressive onset, head circumference, dysmorphology, birth status, essential, or complex phenotype. These findings support the consensus that exposure to ethylmercury in thimerosal is not the cause of the increased prevalence of autism. These data are important not only for parents in this country but also for the international health community where thimerosal continues to be used to preserve multi-dose vials which in turn makes vaccines affordable. © 2007 Wiley-Liss, Inc.

[chicagomd]

80. Exactly. n/t

[trotsky]

81. Nice work, LB. n/t

[varkam]

71. I thought I had you on ignore. How'd you manage to pop up on my screen again?

Nevermind. I can't believe you're still referencing discredited researchers like Geier and Geier in order to push your faulty claims (and potentially harmful ones - the case of an autistic child who died as a result of chelation therapy springs to mind).

Tell me, Dr. Google - do you even care about the potential harm that you could be causing by dispensing such shoddy research and misinformation? I know, I know, you've "cited THOUSANDS of peer-reviewed studies"...except you haven't. Even if you have, using that as a shield against criticism is an improper appeal to authority. For instance, the methodology employed in the Geier and Geier study was so full of holes and the assumptions made by them rested on a fundamental misunderstanding of mercury toxicity.

Though, having had many conversations with you on this matter, I understand you are much more interested in ideology than in scientific fact. You already have your conclusions, and so you compile all the information you can (regardless of the reputation of the sources) to support your conclusions as opposed to letting the conclusions speak for themselves.

ETA Also, do you have a link for the title subject of your OP? I googled CoMed, and was able to see some of the other "press releases" that they have done. It doesn't look too promising, at least if you care about having sources that have at least a veneer of objectivity (which I know you do not).