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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 07:11 PM Original message |
Do we have to respect the "faith based" argument against civil same sex marriage? |
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napoleon_in_rags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 07:13 PM Response to Original message |
1. All we have to respect is the freedom of individuals to practice their faith. |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 07:27 PM Response to Reply #1 |
12. That would probably be the best solution, but I don't see it happening soon. |
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napoleon_in_rags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 08:14 PM Response to Reply #12 |
18. I see it as the simplest solution. |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-08 09:03 AM Response to Reply #18 |
27. Holy Moly - I think you've got something there. What if we came up with |
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Kutjara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 07:14 PM Response to Original message |
2. No. |
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madeline_con (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 07:15 PM Response to Original message |
3. Hell to the NO! |
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Kutjara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 07:19 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. And who were the witnesses... |
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madeline_con (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 07:26 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. See? Proof! It's a civil thing. n/t |
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wintemark (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 01:32 AM Response to Reply #3 |
47. Give me a few more months and I might have a case to bring |
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MrModerate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 07:15 PM Response to Original message |
4. As in "because my religion says it's wrong for me . . . |
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aspergris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
5. have to? |
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Independent_Voice (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 04:15 PM Response to Reply #5 |
35. Question about your friends... |
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Pale Blue Dot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
6. No. Faith is individual, non-transferable, and a piss-poor reason, on its own, |
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terrya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
7. No, we don't. |
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TechBear_Seattle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 07:27 PM Response to Original message |
10. The First Amendment makes "faith based" arguments against civil marriage irrelevant |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 07:27 PM Response to Original message |
11. no |
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DCKit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 07:37 PM Response to Original message |
13. "They" will have far more credibility when they begin stoning adulterers... |
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Hydra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 07:38 PM Response to Original message |
14. Freedom of religion is not a trump card |
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eShirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 07:40 PM Response to Original message |
15. the various churches can set their own rules for their own religious marriage ceremonies |
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Rhythm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 07:47 PM Response to Original message |
16. No one has said that their 'faiths' have to respect our civil rights |
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Brazenly Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 07:53 PM Response to Original message |
17. Hell, NO! |
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Fran Kubelik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 08:14 PM Response to Original message |
19. Why should my faith be any less to respect than their faith? |
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Ms. Toad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 10:16 PM Response to Original message |
20. There is no legitimate "faith based" argument against |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 11:04 PM Response to Original message |
21. No, it demands no more respect than "mark of Cain" beliefs of white racist Christians. n/t |
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hoosier_lefty (172 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-08 12:41 AM Response to Original message |
22. what does the Bible say? |
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Smarmie Doofus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-08 06:05 AM Response to Original message |
23. "Faith-based" is the most laughable euphemism of the Bush era. |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-08 07:58 AM Response to Original message |
24. People should not be allowed to god-wash their bigotry. n/t |
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LeftHander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-08 11:29 AM Response to Reply #24 |
29. God-Wash new and improved - Whiter and straighter than ever...nt |
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One_Life_To_Give (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-08 08:10 AM Response to Original message |
25. Definitions |
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Unvanguard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-08 08:58 AM Response to Original message |
26. Of course not. Political decisions must be made according to public standards. |
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litlady (360 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-08 09:06 AM Response to Original message |
28. They can believe that, but when it involves state institutions it violates the establishment clause! |
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Karl_Bonner_1982 (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-08 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
30. No. Scriptural doctrine should not be used to deny legal equality to any cultural group. |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 04:06 AM Response to Original message |
31. We're not obligated to respect anything. In fact, you either respect something or your don't. |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
32. No. Eff that. |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 01:57 PM Response to Original message |
33. No. |
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Independent_Voice (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
34. Of course not... |
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freestyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
36. No. We must respect religions' setting their internal rules. |
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SarahB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 10:09 PM Response to Original message |
37. NO! My non-believing tax-paying self does NOT live in a theocracy. |
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GOPNotForMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 12:31 AM Response to Original message |
38. 1 more vote for HELL NO! nt |
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LeftCoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 01:28 AM Response to Original message |
39. If they respected us, I'd consider it but since they don't...No! |
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Tyo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
40. No |
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Darth Lenore (107 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-05-08 05:00 AM Response to Original message |
41. Absolutely not. We don't have to respect that any more than.... |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-05-08 08:30 AM Response to Original message |
42. hell no, with prejudice |
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goddess40 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-05-08 08:51 AM Response to Original message |
43. Not in a secular country like ours |
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Dark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-06-08 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
44. Legalize it and let the churches decide on their own. |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-06-08 05:23 PM Response to Original message |
45. Fuck no, we do NOT |
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ajh60 (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-06-08 07:14 PM Response to Original message |
46. No Church |
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LeftHander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 02:00 PM Response to Original message |
48. No...becasue it is hypocritical and immoral. |
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